Long flatline.. Is it normal?

MZ

Active Member
Hi everyone. Today i've completed 90 days (hard mode) without relapsing. First i want to tell my history with this shit. I started masturbution when i was 10 and i watched porn when i was 16. So 12 years of masturbution and 7 years of porn consumption. What im asking about is since 3 months now, i've lost my sex drives, i didnt get any real arousal or drive to sex since 3 months now. I know im going through flatline but is it normal for a flatline to be that long? My brain is messing with me, telling me that i lost my sex drives for good. Im a female so im not talking bout libido and so on, im talking about the desire and drives to have real sex. Deos anyone experienced a long loss of sex drives like me? And what are the causes for such a long flatline?
 

BuddhaAwake

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According to YBOP, rebooting and flatlining vary from person to person. It seems unfair that some people reboot faster and some don't even flatline, but it is what it is. Anxiety over flatling could actually contribute to its continuance. Anything ethical you can do to relax might either shorten the flatline or at least make it easier to endure.

As with so many things, sometimes we just have to accept things the way they are and keep moving.
 

yesyes1234

Active Member
Didn't Gabe say it took him 9 months or something like that? But yeah, mine has taken a lot longer than 3 months. I doubt it's possible to loose sex drive. I've never heard of it. It's most likely just your brain being an addictbrain. How is your general energy level?
 

MZ

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Yah i guess gabe said it took him 9 months to fuly recover from flatline. My energy level is swinging, sometimes its low and sometimes its moderate but most of the time its low. Plus low motivation to do anything, no matter how small. Did u fully recover from flatline or u still experience it? Is there anything to reduce flatline or i just have to hang on there until it pass? I'll read gabe story again to see how much it took from him for flatline.
 

BuddhaAwake

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Ethical means in accordance with one's concepts of what is right behavior. For me, meditation or exercise would be an ethical way to relax. Drinking alcohol, using drugs, hunting, or engaging in abusive social media would not be ethical.

(I'm NOT accusing anyone on the forum of being unethical or abusing social media- just giving an example of what for me would be unethical. Also, not against others hunting-it's just not in my ethics.)
 

yesyes1234

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Still experiencing it unfortunately. 8 months in with one MO relapse. But it's a lot better than in the beginning. It's still somewhat on the low side, but it used to be really low. My energy started to go up earlier than my libido. I still don't really have much sex drive.

He talks about some of the stuff in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxtQq0jBncc

He talks about exercise, meditation, cold showers, momentary fasting etc.

 
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Stowe2010

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I think its very normal, the flat line phase is your brain detoxifying from years of p abuse. This can take a long time if you have been using p as long as many of us have. Embrace it and do not go back using, you have made it so far. Keep up the good work and congrats on your successes thus far!
 

MZ

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Thank u all for ur replies, i apprecciate it. No way that i'll go back to this shit again. I'll walk through hell if i have to, i'll do whatever it takes to heal and recover from this addiction. PM are not an option anymore. Enough is enough. Its like all of this syptoms, suffering and so on will disappear when we fully recover. All of this will be just an experience we learnt alot from and thats what give me hope, that all of this will disappear when i fully recover.
 

fapfreezone

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I think it's important to add that abstinence isn't the only part of the reboot, it's just the first. The second is rewiring. To rewire, you need to find healthy stimuli to arouse you to get your libido going again. This can be boyfriend or MO without porn/erotica/vibrator (so just fingers, I suppose) or just single men you meet and flirt with, as long as it's a healthy natural reward and not an artificial one. Avoid P subs. The good news, though, is that you're doing well with your reboot and your ready to rewire.
 

MZ

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I dont agree with u when u talked about masturbution. I beleive that if i masterbute, i only go out from porn problem and start another peoblem( masterbution). Masterbution isnt a good thing, u have pleasure with urself and give urself all the desire u need, how could that be diffrent from porn? They r the same. U should have s only with real people. Anything else is not good and healthy. I fully respect ur opinion, im just saying what i beleive in.
 

MZ

Active Member
It took gabe deem 6 months to get some sex drive and motivation back. It took him 9 months to get sex drive fully back. It took him 15 months to fully recover from all the withdrawals and the things comes up with this addiction, so probably its going to be the same period with me. I'll be patient until it all passed.
 

fapfreezone

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No MO is fine and that is exactly how a lot of successful rebooters do it (though obv I think MO to sensation alone is fine after reboot) and I agree that you can do that (or not do that...) if you want. My main point, though was that you might eventually need to get closer to a real man to get your libido going again. You may be in the same spot as Gabe wrt reboot length, but what I meant is described in this YBOP article (though they describe your POV too):

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/started-internet-porn-and-my-reboot-erectile-dysfunction-taking-too-long

I just remember hearing that some people need to rewire to get libido going again. These people are typically those with least real experience before PMO. Something to consider, especially if you're still in the same spot in 3-6 months time.

 
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