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workinprogressUK

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Nearly fell down the hole yesterday. Home alone. Period of intense work stress ended. I think making a conscious decision to shut down the rat runs reminded my chimp brain that I had easy routes to P. As soon as I think about them, I'm so week. Almost like an automatic no-brainer to go browse P. Those synapses so well wired, even if they've been dormant for a while. Had the laptop in my hand and thankfully had a moment of sense. Got back control of my wheel. Had a moment of disgust with myself and turned it around. Kind of a "not now". Forced a delay. It was enough. Not graceful but enough. Got to get rid of that shit
 

guitar1968

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Nearly fell down the hole yesterday. Home alone. Period of intense work stress ended. I think making a conscious decision to shut down the rat runs reminded my chimp brain that I had easy routes to P. As soon as I think about them, I'm so week. Almost like an automatic no-brainer to go browse P. Those synapses so well wired, even if they've been dormant for a while. Had the laptop in my hand and thankfully had a moment of sense. Got back control of my wheel. Had a moment of disgust with myself and turned it around. Kind of a "not now". Forced a delay. It was enough. Not graceful but enough. Got to get rid of that shit
That is fantastic. Of course we are all going to have those feelings at times, but you moved past them. It will get easier. Around 90 days for me I was a mess. Probably worse than the first month I started. Now at 120 days everything has calmed down and become much clearer for me. The pull to open the private browser is really going away. I don't think there is a right amount of days for anyone. Some start getting better quicker than others, but we have to keep working to get the place where the calm sets in.

You are doing awesome.
 

Phineas 808

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Good job dismissing the urges, UK, no matter how you had to do it... "it worked". Reminds me of just saving something (like on IG), just to move on and to not obsess about it.

Question yourself: How am I keeping the neural pathways sensitized? From your statements, it sounds like something led to planning to get rid of the pathways back to the rat-hole. State of mind is important during times like this, as even to 'fight' this crap is a way to 'feed' this crap. If it were me, I would wait until I was in a non-obsessive mindset before I deleted this or that.

You're in a good place, though, if you can be 'so close' to the gates of hell, and yet walk back. You got this, brother!
 

TheNorman

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Hey WIP, meant to check in earlier but have just been going crazy with work/covid stress. Glad to hear you're still on top of things and cracking that chimp over the head with a crowbar before he can get your banana! Stay well brother!
 

workinprogressUK

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For a long while, I've felt like there's no risk whatsoever of me relapsing. I just don't feel like "that guy" any more. But I triggered a couple of days back and suddenly, going back to P seems like the most natural and desirable thing imaginable. I've lived this pattern so many times before, so I just thought I'd journal it out. See what sticks. I'm just back on my feet after a dose of Covid. Libido was already flat and illness squashed it totally. Pretty well the day that I was signed-off as fit to come out of isolation, my wife tested positive. She's almost done her time now, so after 3 weeks in the spare room, I can soon go back to the marital bed. And my chimp brain has started worrying that I really ought to start feeling horny, because it's going to be fairly shitty of me to not show my wife some desire after three weeks apart. But because my libido has been flat for so long and because the fire hasn't been burning so fiercely between us, I'm not feeling it. I started to get anxious about apparent lack of function, lying on the spare room, and had to fantasise to get any reaction. I stopped myself before acting out. Feeling desire is already difficult enough, so masturbating would be a fairly dumb use of my meagre supply. It's a bit of a vicious circle; I want a healthy sexual relationship with my wife, but I lack desire for her, which tempts me to use P to jump-start my system, but using P will stop me from feeling desire for my wife. The obvious conclusion is "whatever else happens, porn isn't the answer". It's definitely not the way forward. First fantasising and then coming back here feel like early-stage contemplation in my addiction cycle. So I can either re-frame my thinking now, before that contemplation becomes obsessive, or look forward to ending up back in the shit. Need to push the instinct to lust further away and out of my thoughts. Focus on the happiness of the here and now. Stay mindful. Don't let my thoughts drift to "what if". There's no happiness in that direction. Be mindful and present. Live fully in the moment. Unlikely that my wife will feel any desire after being so ill, so there's probably no need to feel pressure. Hopefully this doesn't lead to me coming here every day, because that would mean that "not being an addict" is far too prominent in my thoughts to be healthy. Wish me luck!!
 

Phineas 808

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I understand this place, WIP- both in not relying on fantasy to 'make it' with our wives, and also in wanting to move on, without being overly reliant on that which says 'we can't fully move on'...

(glad you and your wife are feeling better!)

You got this!
 

Joel

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Illness is a huge cue that can take us back to an addictive habit that was central in our lives for so long. Some advice from a course I'm listening to is fresh in my mind. I'll try to paraphrase it here: We're lifelong addicts. I don't say that to sound awful - but P affects us a certain way and we'll always be prone. there was this guy, Jim. He'd been clean for ages, then one day everything went wrong and he started using again. What should you do when this challenge raises its ugly head? Back to the basics - everything you learned, all the tools and practices you started using and maybe you don't do so regularly now. Best of luck!
 
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