Zander Reboot - Light at the end of the tunnel

zander13

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Hey Zander, how you feeling man? Hopefully your feeling better today.
Things got better once I stopped it.


Yesterday was 37 months on the nose.

Sadly, I had a wet dream today. And it wasn't a natural one: it was pornified and gross. Fucked my head up something good. I think I had it because I watched a couple of movies/shows with smut in them. I didn't expect the smut either time, so I wasn't seeking it, but I still should have just avoided the movies altogether. I went against one of my rules. Twice.

I need to refocus on the goal: do not, under any circumstance, fucking relapse. It's as simple as that.

Avoid pornographic content, avoid sexualized content, avoid it all. Avoid the thoughts, the fantasies, the ogling--all of it.

That's what this is all about, at the end of the day: abstaining. I cannot undo 37 months of hard work. So I feel scared today. I'm scared of what this wet dream will do to me. It was really fucked up and synthetic and gross and just fuckin shitty. I could feel its negative effects on my brain occur as soon as I woke up. Just a downpour of acid slowly dripping from the top of my cranium. Porn is evil. That's the maxim. It's the devil, and it brings about devilish forces. Nothing about it feels good or true. The opposite of zen, grace, or whatever you'd like to call it.

New goal: Go back to a strict visual, and auditory diet. No smut. If there is ANY chance of nudity or sexualized content then just avoid it outright. This is a top priority, always. I didn't relapse or anything, but I do believe that wet dreams are avoidable if I stay away from garbage, at least the kinds of dreams that are as dirty as the one I had last night.
 

Scorpio1990

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Things got better once I stopped it.


Yesterday was 37 months on the nose.

Sadly, I had a wet dream today. And it wasn't a natural one: it was pornified and gross. Fucked my head up something good. I think I had it because I watched a couple of movies/shows with smut in them. I didn't expect the smut either time, so I wasn't seeking it, but I still should have just avoided the movies altogether. I went against one of my rules. Twice.

I need to refocus on the goal: do not, under any circumstance, fucking relapse. It's as simple as that.

Avoid pornographic content, avoid sexualized content, avoid it all. Avoid the thoughts, the fantasies, the ogling--all of it.

That's what this is all about, at the end of the day: abstaining. I cannot undo 37 months of hard work. So I feel scared today. I'm scared of what this wet dream will do to me. It was really fucked up and synthetic and gross and just fuckin shitty. I could feel its negative effects on my brain occur as soon as I woke up. Just a downpour of acid slowly dripping from the top of my cranium. Porn is evil. That's the maxim. It's the devil, and it brings about devilish forces. Nothing about it feels good or true. The opposite of zen, grace, or whatever you'd like to call it.

New goal: Go back to a strict visual, and auditory diet. No smut. If there is ANY chance of nudity or sexualized content then just avoid it outright. This is a top priority, always. I didn't relapse or anything, but I do believe that wet dreams are avoidable if I stay away from garbage, at least the kinds of dreams that are as dirty as the one I had last night.
You got this man, my flatline has been really bad this past week and my anxiety is bad as well. I made a appointment today and doctor wanted me to take meds but I honestly don’t want to. She told me once I take them it will get bad before it gets better in which I knew. This whole Anhedonia bullshit is what’s makes this hard. I definitely know how you feel bro.
 

zander13

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You got this man, my flatline has been really bad this past week and my anxiety is bad as well. I made a appointment today and doctor wanted me to take meds but I honestly don’t want to. She told me once I take them it will get bad before it gets better in which I knew. This whole Anhedonia bullshit is what’s makes this hard. I definitely know how you feel bro.
Yeah all you can do is try shit to see if it helps. Everyone is different. Like I said in my message, I view PAWs as something that needs to be endured. You can't do much to get rid of it, but you can do some stuff to make it go by, perhaps, a little smoother. Sadly, the greatest effect we can have on withdrawals are making them longer/worse through relapses. At least in my case. I fucked my brain up in a severe way.


Still on day 117-118 of this current flatline/cycle. It's been the longest and most painful of my life.

It's going to end soon. We'll see what things look like once the dust settles. I'm super scared about the length of these PAWs. The longest story I've read was a 4 year reboot.

In addition: The wet dream ended up being less of a catalyst and more of a symptom. That day was going to be rough no matter what. Still going to stick with the hypervigilance approach. If shit's Rated "R" or "M" I'm not touching it with a ten foot cock. Nowhere near worth it.
 
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zander13

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Been viewing this place through too much of a social media-type lens these days. I need to remember that this is a journal and that it's meant to be therapeutic in nature. I don't need anyone to believe me or sympathize with my experiences. It's a nice bonus, but the main benefits come from the act of expressing myself. I cannot control the reaction to my actions, only the actions themselves. I'm vowing to return to complete honesty. Forthrightness over pandering.

I'm still in the cycle. I know it'll end soon but man oh man it has been a doozy. Wish things were different lately because my list of things to watch/read/discover has only been growing. I've been able to watch ~5-10 movies over the past 2 weeks, which is a sign of change. Movies are empathy machines, as Roger Ebert once said, so it means a whole lot to me that I've experienced brief windows where I can enjoy them (though not as thoroughly as I am capable of due to the disconnectedness that flatlines cause). I love fiction, and all I really want is to be able to act upon said love. Watching a couple movies with a clouded brain is a start, but I still am nowhere near the place I want to me. I want to wake up in the morning, make a pot of coffee, and read 4 books in a day. Then, once I finish those, I want to watch 3 movies. A dog by my side is another part of the equation. The final piece will bea girl who is okay with me spending my life in this manner.

I lied. The final piece is the ability to produce my own fiction. This is my goal. My dream. The reason I was able to abstain for 1000+ days. Writing is who I am. It's all I want to do. I have 30 pages of notes for stories I want to write. 3 years' worth of observations, ideas, character sketches, and psychological discoveries. I have crystallized my desires to the above sentences. Fuck the therapy and the grad school and the other shit. I am going to build my entire life around the written word.

As I approach the end of mini flatlines I tend to become more spiritual in nature. I believe this is because that is my true nature. One of the books I plan on reading once my brain rights itself is the Bible. And I'm not approaching it from a die-hard Christianic worldview, but from a personal desire to examine the most famous book of all time.

I guess I should see all of this as positive. But I don't, in a way. I've known it since I was 19 years old. Maybe not as clearly as I do now, but I've always wanted to write. It's never left. Hell, I've already written 3 novels and upwards of 30 short stories. I've read upwards of a hundred novels in 5 years (back when I could). I've already put in a lot of work (though I don't see it as work).

What I'm trying to say is that I don't see it as a positive because I still cannot fucking do it, and this addiction makes me feel as if I'm just sitting here wasting my fuckin prime years.

On the flip side, the optimistic way to view it is that I've acquired wisdom and a unique perspective through the pain of these withdrawals. But a year would have been enough, 3 is just a waste in my opinion.

The movie thing is good though. No matter what it points to progress. I'm just a little traumatized by the length and severity of this cycle that I've been enduring. My biggest fear is that it will happen again, or, God forbid, the next one will be even longer. I'm just exhausted. I just want to be able to wake up and choose exactly how I want to live my life. These withdrawals have dictated my life for too long. I want to regain control. I don't even know what it's like to be able to enjoy whatever activity I decide on at any given moment. The idea of having to choose one activity over another is an exhilarating prospect.
 

zander13

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Glad to see you're still going porn hell @zander13, no matter what the withdrawals throw your way.

Fuck porn in every possible way.

Bless you man.

Bless you too sir. I agree, this whole porn shit sucks ass. As always, see you at the finish line.




Just read a story on a long-term rebooter forum, and here is a snippet:

"Like many of you all here I have been on this journey for a while now, 4. 5 years in total with two long streaks, one 18 month and one 15 month both unfortunately ending with long relapses in between."

He is currently questioning why he keeps relapsing, and is worried that he will forever be caught in the porn/relapse death loop. Man oh man have I been there before. Sadly, all I can do is use this poor guy's story as a reminder. This shit can strike at any moment, and it doesn't give a flying fuck about how long your current streak is. It is ambivalent to progress. It doesn't exist within the realm of time. All it needs is a sliver of weakness. A tiny oversight.

The longest story I've seen, as I said, was a month short of 4 years. Only one success story has taken longer than mine. I've passed almost every single person on the internet, aside from a couple guy who I haven't heard from in a while who were a few months ahead of me. My guess is that they are pretty much through it, and their lives have taken up the space that these forums occupy. Or they relapsed.

What upsets me is that none of them have posted updates in a while. I specifically remember one German fella say, many times, that he was going to make sure that he gave back to the community once he recovered. I hope he holds true to that. would fucking love to read another long-term success story.

Anyways, considering that the longest story I've seen is ~4 years, I hope that it's safe to say that I have less than a year left of this nonsense. It's fucking impossible to truly know, but I can't fucking imagine PAWs lasting longer than 4 motherfucking years. Would be absurd.

As far as all that mental health shit I talked about a while back, it was all due to the SSRI. Bipolar and antidepressants often don't mix, but I rolled the dice anyways, and lost. Once I stopped the Lexapro my mind settled down big time. I'm much more sure about where the illness ends and the PAWs begin. No longer is it something I think about. The PAWs is PAWs, the illness is the illness. They are separate entities. I'm sure bipolar helped make the addiction worse, and deeper, but the symptoms of the two are different.

I have no fucking idea when this thing will end. Just like I have no idea how much pain is on the horizon.

What I will say is that I'm still earning inches. Small fragments of progress occur each week, or each month. Like I said before, I've been able to watch movies during certain windows of time. Last night I watched a Tom Clancy one with Harrison Ford and enjoyed the shit out of it. Two weeks ago I watched the entire LOTR trilogy. So there's that. Might go away, but it's still new.

Other things I've noticed are less lethargy. I do chores every day now, even on the worst days. My apartment is always clean, the garbage always gets taken out, dishes get cleaned, laundry gets done, phone calls get made, bills get paid on time.

I'm more organized too, but that kind of plays into the above.

Trying to think of what else. Socially, it's hard to say. I still have times when it hurts like to hell to be around others because I'm in deep pain. I think that this will be one of the last things to go--the social discomfort and anxiety/pain. I still desire to be alone most of the time.

Dreams have changed. They have become slightly more vivid and common. All throughout this reboot I've had hundreds of dreamless nights. 80-90% of the time my nights have been blank, or half-awake.

I get excited by basic sexual acts on T.V. like kissing or good looking women. And this has been consistent. Doesn't matter what mood I'm in, this change has not gone away. Makes me even more vigilant. The Tom Clancy movie last night had passionate kissing and I hit the fast forward button immediately.

Morning wood has been come and go since the start. I don't use it as a gauge of progress whatsoever. I've had it happen to me in spurts since the very start of this reboot so I don't trust it. Given this fact, I will say that I've had MW pretty frequently lately.

Memory and sense of time have gotten better, but it's still not in a normal sphere. I talked to my buddy this morning and I'd forgotten something I had said to him a week prior. As if it never happened. No memory of it. But, as I stated, it's gotten better. When I began this reboot I had ZERO sense of time. Each day was like I woke up from a sleep chamber in a sci-fi movie. I only had a feint inkling of what had happened the day previous, let alone the week previous. It was FUCKING WILD. Now, the days are much more connected. For instance, I have a good idea of exactly how this past week has gone. Not a normal human's idea, but a decent one. I'd say this is a major improvement I've noticed.

I care more about my surroundings. I have turned my apartment into something very comfortable and personal. It actually represents who I am as a person. When I was deeper in my addiction I wasn't able to give a shit about this sort of thing.

I think I've hit a point, very recently, where I don't see women as objects as much. I mean, I still do, but not as much. Porn fucked up my sexuality so fucking much dude. First of all, it turned me into a "simp", as the kids say. When you objectify women you often put women on pedestals because you don't see them as human. They become objects to be worshipped, like a bar of gold. I did this all of the fucking time. They weren't humans but unattainable artifacts that I was DESPERATE to grab hold of, especially as my addiction progressed. Now, at first (high school and early college mostly), I used girls as objects but didn't deify them. I'd just use them as human fleshlights. But then I hit a turning point where I became sort of scared of them. Especially the ones who were "hot". When I was very young I always like the cuter girls with intelligent faces, but porn turned me into some dumbshit who only wanted to ones that were more like pornstars. And it wasn't a natural want, it was a forced, intellectualized want.

Porn is still on my mind all of the time, as is the past. I've never been more sure that a large part of this journey is processing all of the shit that I used porn to numb. Debts need to be paid.

That's it for now. There is probably more shit but I'm tired of writing this.

I'm just trying to be as forthright as I can on any given day. If I'm feeling hellish then I'll say it. If I'm noticing the bigger picture then I'll comment on it. A sign of true health will show itself in the form of consistency. Yes, life is a roller coaster, but it ain't like the one I'm on now.
 
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zander13

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Time to come to terms with computer usage.

Today, I made the decision to put my gaming/high-powered laptop in storage.

Computers, at this point in my recovery, almost always make me feel worse. Exposing myself to screens that are within 3 feet from my face cause more intense flatline symptoms. Especially earlier in the day, for whatever inexplicable reason.

So I plan to do my very best to eliminate usage as much as I possibly can. Putting the gaming laptop in storage is a nice start, but the real battle will occur with my smaller one. I need to self-regulate as best as I can, and part of this process will involve doing my very fucking best to fill my time up with activities that involve people/the world at large. This will be the final battle.

Of course I'm going to use this puppy (the small $50 chromebook I bought off Facebook marketplace) to post on this forum and other small things like researching phone numbers, addresses, the occasional Norm Macdonal video, UFC streams of pay-per-views, and some other shit I'm sure I'm forgetting. But that's going to be it.

I've been writing in journals more, with a pen. That's how I'm going to move forward when it comes to processing these PAWs. I've been very thorough with statistics, note-taking, journaling, etc., and it's starting to feel better to do all of this on paper, as opposed to Word or Excel.

There's a great coffee shop down the road from me, and I plan on using it often. Even when I don't feel like it. And the library. I gotta fucking force my god-damned self to do this kind of shit.

It's time to start building a fuller schedule. I need to put myself out there.
 

zander13

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I love it!
Amen sir.




2 weeks short of 38 months


Been riding waves, of both symptoms and uncertainty. Nothing new. Nothing crippling, but a part of me really thought that I was truly close to finishing this process once and for all.

One thing I've noticed recently is that I'm a much more stoic individual when it comes to pleasure. I'm much better at saying "no" to momentary highs. I'm also much more capable of setting boundaries with people. When I first began this streak I considered myself a mentally tough person, and I was. I had become something resembling a man. I was humbled by life. I had a quieter confidence. But, recently, I've realized that though I was doing much better with boundary setting when it came to people I'd recently met, I was still quite willing to make myself small with people from my old life: friends, mostly, and my brother.

Over the past month I've truly adopted the mindset that I'd rather lose a friend than make myself small in order for someone to feel comfortable.

I became a yes man at some point in my life. Don't know if it was an adaptation or a response to porn addiction. No use analyzing: it was what it was. My turn to deal with it.

I'm finally starting to shed that skin. Doing it with strangers is one thing, but gathering the strength to do it when around an old life is another.

Fear of abandonment is what they call it. In my eyes, the onus was always on me to make things work. I'd do and say anything to keep people around, for fear of having no one. Well, not anymore. I recently set a handful of boundaries with people. When it comes ot my brother, I finally said what has been on my mind for a long time. And, to be honest, I haven't felt comfortable with it. I went against my very nature. I often feel bad, and that I was too harsh. But then I'll catch myself, and remind myself that it was what I felt, and that my feelings are valid. This is the key: my feelings are valid. I won't allow myself to be gaslit by this douche. Because he is, in fact, a douche. Very selfish. Very singular minded. Never really gone out of his way to lend a hand. He hasn't been humbled by life. He chooses to emulate the wrong people, and ignores the fountain of wisdom that I have become. The other day, I asked myself "what kind of fucking idiot wouldn't want to be close with me?" I mean, seriously. I'm cool as fuck. Like what a fuckin idiot.

It'll cause a rift. But I gotta be okay with that. The boundary needs to stay. His number is blocked in my phone and I plan to take charge of any confrontation we will inevitably have. He ain't taking the reigns anymore dude. I'm stronger than he is, and I'm not going to lie down. It's just fuckin backwards as hell, because with other friends and strangers I'm SUCH A DIFFERENT PERSON. I'm confident and within myself. But with some of these folks from my past I return to where I started.

I need to deal with these issues longterm, mainly completely breaking away from it, but I cannot do it at the moment due to these symptoms, so I gotta put some bandaids on in the meantime. It's harder than you think. This shit is powerful stuff.

I'm happy with where I'm headed psychologically. Feels good to feel as if I have my power back. I just gotta stick to it though. My brother will take every inch he is given because he is insecure and selfish. He so badly wants to be the smart, charismatic one, but that role will forever be mine. Maybe one day he'll wake the fuck up, but, for now, he's going to see a side of me that he has never seen. He's an orc now. I don't like orcs. I tend to want to hew them. Smote them onto the mountainside, like Gandalf.

This withdrawal process will be over eventually. I know it. The facts are all there. Just gotta keep moving forward.

A lot to look forward to. Jsut need to hold onto my sanity as best I can. Incremental changes. Incremental improvements. Every inch requires a mile of effort. But that's my lot. My life could not have gone any other way. This is the hand of cards.

I got a nice setup in my apartment now. It really feels like my own. I got my old printer, my old set of pens, my old notebooks. All of the possessions I've accumulated over the past 6 years or so are now laid out in front of me. MY writing station is set up. Ink is in the printer. Books all around me.

Been good with the low technology interaction. Storing away that computer was a smart move. I now have to sit in the pain more. No more avoiding, or wasting time on the useless entity that is the internet. So much of it is empty calories. And a lot of it is downright bad for me. It infects my world. Diets just aren't about food intake. There are audio diets, visual diets, spiritual. I gotta monitor all of them.

Godspeed everyone. This shit is more about abstinence and sex. It's a way to fix your life. I promise you that if you get a solid streak going you're oging to encounter the real pain, and getting through that will reveal a great many things about who you are and where you're at.

that's it for now. there's a UFC card that I plan to watch. Gotta hold onto the small things during these reboots.
 
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Blondie

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I love every word of this. Fucking A my man.

I hear you about putting up boundaries with certain family members etc. Over this last year I've definitely come to the point that I really don't care anymore about putting up a false front that it's "All good" between us. I'm tired of doing that shit. Sure, I care in some sense if I happen to lose a relationship over it, however, can you really call it losing if it was never healthy for you in the first place? I think not.

Thanks for inspiring me.

Best
 

zander13

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I love every word of this. Fucking A my man.

I hear you about putting up boundaries with certain family members etc. Over this last year I've definitely come to the point that I really don't care anymore about putting up a false front that it's "All good" between us. I'm tired of doing that shit. Sure, I care in some sense if I happen to lose a relationship over it, however, can you really call it losing if it was never healthy for you in the first place? I think not.

Thanks for inspiring me.

Best

I couldn't agree more. I'm really, at the end of the day, not losing much at all. It's more the idea of him than anything else: he chose to not really be a factor in my life at all--now I'm just taking my power back by blocking him and letting him know how I feel. Next step is to show up in person "with the same energy". Well said man.
 

zander13

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Currently dealing with gvt. bureaucracy. I always remember people complaining about it, but I'm now experiencing it firsthand. The stress is absurd. Sorry to complain but man oh man it's something else.

Things have been weird lately: I'll always be lost as to where I am timeline-wise, but I'm also sure of forward momentum. I guess that isn't so different than how it's always been. I just wish I knew a hard date.

One of those most difficult things to know is that I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that I'm going to be a new man at the end. There is so much I want to show the world, and I know I'm capable of great things. But I've had to wait for 4-5 years, sitting here waiting. It's been a massive test of my spirit. I wish I never binged. Each reboot grew in intensity, resulting in this one being the most difficult. It was rock bottom, so I'd wager that this level of pain needed to happen. It scared the living shit outta me. I guess it was an accumulation of things, but yeah, the rock bottom played a huge part.

I just hope it ends soon. I want to surprise people. I want to prove to everyone that I haven't been lying and that I always knew that I'd become a Super Saiyan of sorts (Dragon Ball Z throwback--great show).

What else is there to say? I'm in a league of my own, I've never read another story like mine. And I'm not saying this to brag, at all. The length of time is no longer something I see as positive. 2 years was the cut-off for that. Now I don't give a flying shit about what day it is, I just want to be better.

Edit: Just read a bunch of long-term success stories. I fucking needed that. Holy hell did I need that. I found like 5-6 long-term stories, and they all say the same god damned thing: it's a rebirth. A complete born-again type moment. And it happens suddenly. From suicidal to blissful.

The more I think about it, the more confident I am that it'll end eventually. No matter what, it's going to fucking end. I just need to hold onto the improvements. They are the buoys in the sea: things I can hold onto when I get tired of swimming. I need to always think back to where I began. I was a husk of a human. Things have gotten much better when compared to the start. The pain is the same, but the improvements have come along with it. As I said before, each inch takes a mile of effort.
 
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zander13

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Watched more movies in one month than I have in 3 years. A lot of feel-good ones, where things usually turn out okay. Refamiliarizing myself with the 3 act structure.

Really trying hard to not analyze anything. I have this strong desire to reach out to people, but I also have this voice telling me that I'm just okay as I am. I'm becoming an adult.

Fuck dude, shit's gettin' real I think. Movies are magic. So happy whenever my brain and body allow me to semi-enjoy them. I can't even imagine what it'll be like to watch one with complete health. I already get hit in the feels at the end of every one.

I'm alone, but it's okay at the moment. I don't need anyone. When my mind isn't grappling with porn, it's pretty god damned active, and not in a bad way. It's how I used to be. My job right now is to keep heading back to that place now. To erase every last trace of porn, or at least as much as humanly possible. I'm headed toward factory settings. I'm headed toward 8 year old Zander. The dude with the crazy imagination and massively large heart. The world was better when it was smaller. Fuck being cool. I don't think there has been a more harmful word in the English language than "cool". And not just the little kid version of cool. It's the idea of it. The idea of making oneself seem a certain way. Of trying to be what one thinks an audience wants. It's poison, and I vow to never fucking return to it. It's what weak people contend with. It's the feast of the insecure. And the sterile. It's the city where the boring go to live.

Just gotta keep going. I'll get to the pre-porn Zander as long as I keep moving the fuck forward.
 
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Blondie

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So happy to hear this @zander13. It is truly amazing (in the worst sense) how porn affects us emotionally, obstructing anything that defines us as being human. I remember the first time I was listening to music and started crying like a fucking baby, it was a great experience I'll never forget.

So happy for you man. You always inspire.

Best
 

zander13

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Gettin slammed by withdrawals on Christmas of all days. Really rough one today (so far, maybe the evening will be easier).

Still, I have optimism. This will be the last Christmas I'll have to worry about this stuff. Just need to take it on a second-by-second basis.

Things will only get better after these painful episodes. That's just how it goes.

But still man, this shit really does suck ass.
 

Scorpio1990

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Gettin slammed by withdrawals on Christmas of all days. Really rough one today (so far, maybe the evening will be easier).

Still, I have optimism. This will be the last Christmas I'll have to worry about this stuff. Just need to take it on a second-by-second basis.

Things will only get better after these painful episodes. That's just how it goes.

But still man, this shit really does suck ass.
My depression has been bad and I am considering taking Ibogaine to help me from this. The suicidal thoughts are horrible. I guess we gotta keep hope.
 

zander13

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My depression has been bad and I am considering taking Ibogaine to help me from this. The suicidal thoughts are horrible. I guess we gotta keep hope.
Just googled Ibogaine: sounds like quite the experience, and I don't blame you for trying it (if you do). Sorry to hear about the suicidal stuff. Sadly, I've read plenty of stories where the withdrawals cause such experiences (including me, obviously).

As I said, I got the hope this time around. I'm optimistic about where I'm headed. Everything is starting to feel different--even the shitty times. I'm more connected to my inner self these days--more anchored. It allows me to create some distance when I'm suffering from the pain. Who knows though, shit changes so often that I could still fall back into something more sinister. Nothing is for certain when it comes to withdrawals, I'm sure you're starting to figure that out.
 

Scorpio1990

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Just googled Ibogaine: sounds like quite the experience, and I don't blame you for trying it (if you do). Sorry to hear about the suicidal stuff. Sadly, I've read plenty of stories where the withdrawals cause such experiences (including me, obviously).

As I said, I got the hope this time around. I'm optimistic about where I'm headed. Everything is starting to feel different--even the shitty times. I'm more connected to my inner self these days--more anchored. It allows me to create some distance when I'm suffering from the pain. Who knows though, shit changes so often that I could still fall back into something more sinister. Nothing is for certain when it comes to withdrawals, I'm sure you're starting to figure that out.
Yeah, I just don’t know how you managed to come so far in this journey. It definitely sucks and the suicidal thoughts is what makes it hard because it’s not a rational thought. I never was suicidal or had depression until I left pmo. It’s crazy.
 

zander13

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Yeah, I just don’t know how you managed to come so far in this journey. It definitely sucks and the suicidal thoughts is what makes it hard because it’s not a rational thought. I never was suicidal or had depression until I left pmo. It’s crazy.

Yead dude it's hard to fathom how much damage porn did. Hope things start to improve for you.
 

zander13

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Had a dream that was highly sexual, but in a dirty kind of way. It was lucid because I had already woken up once before falling back into a half-sleep. When I woke up I freaked out because it felt like I had been edging or something. My brain was in an altered state. It's so unbelievably fucked up that anytime I've come anywhere near orgasm/relapse it has occurred when I'm half asleep. Seems fair, right? I don't get this shit man.

As always, only time will tell if any sort of damage took place. I already feel weird this morning. My brain definitely got hit by something. God damn man, this addiction is so vile that it waits until I'm fucking asleep to strike. There's no defense to that. The system is rigged.

To say that I'm pissed off would be an understatement. Whenever I start feeling like there is a divine presence in this world something like this happens to me, and I remember that the universe is indifferent. It's all chemicals. This addiction doesn't give a fuck about hard work or fairness. I could lose to it whilst in my sleep.

Hope that no major damage was done. Really hoping.
 
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