Started porn late, but was a virgin...how does this impact recovery time?

logicprox

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I keep reading things about how young guys who started on high speed internet porn when they were very young and sexually inexperienced take longer to reboot. So my situation is that because of religious reasons growing up (and I was a very good boy...) I didn't start masturbating or looking at porn until I was 27. When I started, I masturbated once without porn, and then used porn ALMOST every time after. I'm 34 now, so obviously it was in the high speed internet age. Also for religious reasons, I was (am) a virgin.

So I guess what I'm wondering, is whether it's starting young that causes a long reboot, or being sexually inexperienced that causes it? Or some combo? I'm just trying to get SOME feel for whether I'm in for a super long reboot or not, since I definitively did not start young, but was sexually inexperienced. Anyone else have a similar experience to me and any info on how long it took them?

Thanks!
 

doneatlast

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Yes, having started late will help you.  The reason is that our brains keep developing until we hit around 25, and especially at younger ages, our brains will rewire very easily.  It means porn makes a bigger mess because it can work its way in so much more easily.  Think of it like trying to untie a knot.  The knot you have to untie is going to be smaller and less tightly pulled than a knot of a guy the same age who started at 14. 

I don't think being a virgin will affect your reboot one way or another.  Though, I might know where you're getting that idea from reading other threads.  Many guys focus on replacing porn with real sex experiences in order to push out the porn drive.  I think this is right minded in the sense that porn =/= sex, but it is a double edged sword.  I've seen so many guys seek sexual encounters basically to live out their porn desires, whether they realize it or not, and that just makes it a whole lot more messy.  I personally think it is better to go into "monk mode" and let sexual tastes and urges reorient to "real life" on their own.  I think you have to do more than put clean water in the cup, you have to clean out the sludge first or else you just get watered down sludge.  On the subject of porn =/= sex, I don't think having any kind of sex life in parallel to porn means that you can get a better grip of what sex is, since "sex" can be whatever you and a (hopefully) willing partner decide.  Whenever I read the sex columns in my local weekly, it always makes me think that maybe porn and sexual dysfunction are just two snakes eating each others's tails, but that's a whole different matter.  I think this could only apply to someone who was an adult, perhaps married, prior to discovering porn.  Sometimes that is the case when we read threads of guys in their 40s or 50s (or older) who didn't find porn until after they had kids and the internet came around.  Then, they have memories and mental impressions that exist as touchstones to show what sex is that porn isn't, but that doesn't apply to most of us. 

My own experience was that I started in my teens, but with dial up on a family computer, so I didn't have privacy with a computer and high speed until my early 20s, and didn't have speeds capable of streaming video until my late 20s.  I'm 37 now.  Very, very limited sexual experience, by choice.  My parents didn't even really insist on it, it was my call to live out this way and by my religious ideals.  It is how I prefer it, and almost every woman I've dated would prefer it that way as well.  It hasn't been a "struggle" where I've had to fight with myself on that, nor do I think sexual repression was ever an issue for me.  I can elaborate if you think it might be helpful or interesting.  Quitting took a long time (years), but once I got a good game plan I had about 10 months of good streaks before quitting for good.  The white-knuckle day to day stuff was about 90-100 days into my final "streak", which lasts to this day.  There are still occasional flashbacks and haunts, but it is more a long game now where I don't think about it often at all.  I'm not sure on the timeline for other things (physical changes, changes in sexual tastes, etc.) but I'd roughly put it around the 6-9 month mark where I felt myself normalize.  My perception is that for many who started younger with harder and faster stuff, that white knuckle day-to-day phase that is highly prone to relapse lasts a lot longer. 
 

logicprox

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@doneatlast This is very delayed, but thank you for the above! Insightful. I unfortunately stepped away from this site and from rebooting for a while and just got back and saw this (missed it somehow before).
 

Blondie

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Hey logicprox. I feel I can definitely chime in here because I had similar experience, at least in some ways. I was also very religious growing up and decided to never have sex before marriage. Though my two serious relationships throughout my 20s I was a still a virgin, even up until I turned 30. I also don't believe I touched my dick until I was probably 20 or something. It's hard to believe that, as I write this now. When I decided to lose my virginity, that is when I learned the hard way that something was wrong with my man downstairs, and hell that was a heartbreaking night to say the least. I think that was the first time I found YBOP online. Unfortunately I didn't take the whole message to heart!

Although i was older, and obviously not in my teens, I had unknowingly wired my brain to porn, and couldn't get it up with a real partner. Of course I had looked at porn off and on since I was probably 13, but being religious and with all the sexual shame involved, it wasn't very often (plus the old-school internet). It was only at age 28 with high speed internet that I really started to get into porn and I assume that is when my brain got sexually highjacked as well. So maybe it took only two years or so for the brainfuck? Fortunately for me, a year or so after that humbling event, at 31 and with a sweet beautiful girlfriend, I rewired my brain to a real woman. That probably took over the course of a summer. I was also at that time generally off of porn and had probably rebooted for 4 or 5 months before that summer. Naturally, as soon my man worked, I slowly jumped back in to my favorite past time.

So yes, I think, even at an older age, porn before a real sexual encounter, can definitely mess you up, even if you were not a teen. However, it does seem to just depend on each individual. I hope that helps a little bit.
 
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