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Jeks

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Hey Bilbo,

i think thats great news! And i absolutely share your opinion. What matters is, that there is progress, no matter how small it might be. The hope and prospects we are gaining through those, is what can carry us though this time. Especially on the emotional side of things. Its easy to wear yourself out in these waiting games, but take every bit you can to comfort yourself emotionally.

Hope to hear from you soon.
 

Conan

Member
As long as there is progress you are doing something right. And as long as you keep it up things can't get worse, they can only stay the same in worst case scenario.

And finally, in my humble opinion, the more you have sex with your partner and the more comfortable you become, the better it's going to get.

Congratulations.
 

akpal2

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Bilbo Baggins said:
Thought I would drop by and give a little update. Since my last post, I had sex 3 or 4 times without using ED pills, and things went well. No raging libido or locked erections, nothing like that, but still enough reaction down there to have decent sex.

Prior to that, my girlfriend and I did not have sex for 100 days, because I wanted to go hard mode for a while. I don?t know to what extent it was beneficial to my libido, but I know it helped me break some patterns I used to have when having sex. I used to be somewhat tensed and serious in the bedroom, but I have been more relaxed and playful since I started having sex again. Also, the way I initiate sex (I initiate it more often than my girlfriend does it) has changed a little bit as well. It?s been more spontaneous in the last weeks, and that?s also a good thing.

That?s about it for now, nothing else to report, except that I seem to have nocturnal erections more often. Progress is slow, but things are better than they were, and that?s what matters.

This is great progress. I am personally a big fan of hardmode.

So happy for you. Now you will take it to the next level bilbo.
 

Maglue

Active Member
Hey bilbo,
What is hard mode?

The human body is an amazing vessel... it can repair itself in amazing ways and I know you will !!...
For example,
Even heavy cigarette smokers after 10 years being smoke free are like 99.9% fully recovered... lungs and all... dont quote me on that but I read something like that once...
...
How much work are you doing with all the supporting stuff like meditation, and self improvement work, and fasting, and yoga, and healthy eating... have you juiced before?
If you want it bad enough like I do then you will do it all!

 

Max1230

Member
Buddy, hello! I am 17 years old and I am also in the reboot stage now (I have about 60 days now). Know that we are with you! Thanks for your entries! Good luck friend!
 

Maglue

Active Member
Yeah wow bilbo baggins...
How old are you?
I'm 36 now and time is of the essence but I'm well into it now day 34ish...
Geeze made some progress but a long way to go yeah I might need a year or two ....
Porn will never be a problem for me again fark that....
Message us up sometime if yah want...
 

akpal2

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good to read you are going well bilbo, I am trudging along as well. If you read my journal you will notice that I am continuing the sex with viagra for now. I will have my period of O free reboot once, hopefully, I get the wife pregnant.

My porn cravings are less but they still get triggered. I can get hard to touch whenever i want (except if I look at porn then that day I can't get hard to porn), which in my opinion is huge progress. I can't remember if I ever could get hard just to touch.
 

Jeks

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Nice work bilbo!
I think, sometimes the best thing you can do to calm and reassure yourself in this process, is to rule out any other possibility, especially when you are a long-time rebooter.
Good luck with your next plans!
 

Jeks

Well-Known Member
It's sometimes a rough journey for sure. But i got a lot of respect for how you are carrying and navigating yourself through this. You are a big inspiration for me on how you handle your reboot. Thanks again for the story you have posted a while ago on my blog. Really initiated a shift in my mind on how i view my ED and lack of progress while rebooting.
 

casanova

Member
Thanks for dropping by, man. We’re definitely going through a similar process, even if we have different issues, so it’s cool to be able to help and support each other.
3 weeks left to this 90-day hard mode streak. Just around 450 days no P no M, still not where I’d like to be.

Got a prescription for hormone replacement therapy: 80mg testosterone + 15mg progesterone. But I don’t think I’m gonna do it. My levels are okay, maybe just a little low, so chances are very weak that my libido would benefit from this. There are too many risks with this treatment, and since my levels are almost average, I don’t think it’s worth it. Those anti-aging doctors prescribe this so easily…

When I reached one year of no PMO I decided it was time to explore other avenues (while continuing the reboot, of course). I’ve seen some improvements, but not a lot, so I thought it was a good idea to see if I didn’t have physiological issues. I did a Doppler ultrasound, I met with a physiotherapist specialized in pelvic floor dysfunctions (I used to edge a lot when watching porn) and I got my hormones checked by an anti-aging doctor. But all of these tests didn’t reveal anything wrong with my body. So we got two options left: I need more time away from porn, or I’ve got psychogenic ED. It could be a mix of both, of course. I am on a waiting list to see a sex therapist, so I’ll explore this avenue in a few months.

We’ll get there eventually. It’s a long, complex and uncertain journey, but there’s a lot of positive things in it. I feel like I know myself a little better since I started this. I also feel I can navigate troubled waters more easily nowadays. You don’t always know how things will go when you try something new, in fact you never know. Uncertainty is a component of life we have to learn to deal with. Well, thanks to my reboot, I’m more and more comfortable with uncertainty. It’s okay to doubt, it’s okay to stay cautious intellectually, but you still have to go forwards. Keep your eyes open, but keep walking as well.

In 3 weeks I’ll start having sex again. My girlfriend has been so supportive with me, it’s the second time I go hard mode (no sex) in less than a year. Unfortunately, this streak didn’t seem to bring noticeable improvements. I’ve had a wet dream, and semi morning wood once or twice, but that’s about it. My ED ain’t that bad anymore (10-12 years ago, my ED was terrible), I’m generally able to have sex, but I still lose my erection pretty easily. I’m not there yet, but things could be worse. ED pills work very well for me, so I’ll try to find a balance between using ED pills and doing what’s best for my reboot.

Keep it up, guys. We’ll get there sooner or later.
Bilbo, when having sex again, try to still not O. I usually do it "coitus interruptus" with help of kegels (I do kegels it more or less daily for years). It is helping a lot my rewiring.

Sleep well, no phone 2 hours before sleeping. And practice intensive exercises.

As you're close to 90 days hardmode, it will certainly boost your MW and help you rewiring. I still would highly recommend not to O even having sex. Force rewire but stay "charged" as long as you can. You'll get there!
 

casanova

Member
Which exercises you practice if I may ask? And are you usually is on the internet in the last hour before sleep? If so I highly recommend staying offline for the last two hours. Only when I do so I have vivid dreams. And only after having them consistently I started having MW consistently too.
 

casanova

Member
No problem! I've read carefully everything.
It's a bit difficult, but in your case I would step up the game trying some supplements like catuaba bark, maca, muirapuama, tribulus. Definitely would check vitamin D levels, supplement daily with zinc too. Enter the gym to practice harder sports everyday. And if your GF is aware about your reboot, I would try to set some time per week to massage each other bodies, play with some toys etc. To slowly bring sexuality back to your life.

Make some research and some changes to intensify your approach. I'm sure that sooner or later you'll get there. You're on the right path, I think just need do such slight changes and you'll start feeling difference.

The fact that you remember part of your dreams and have nocturnal erections sometimes its a great thing!
 

Stiffy999

Active Member
Getting close to 500 days no P no M. I’ve still got a long way to go, because I still have ED. I’m able to have sex without ED pills, but I still need constant stimulation, so I can’t really take my time, or I’ll lose it. I’m still making love in the same 1-2 postions, doggy style is not an option for now, I can’t stay hard in that position. If I use Viagra, then I almost feel normal. Before the reboot, I needed 100mg of Viagra, and nowadays, 50mg is enough.

The problem with Viagra is that you have to plan sex, and that’s very difficult. I live with my girlfriend, so sex can happen almost anytime. Before rebooting, I had tried daily Cialis (5mg Tadalafil), but I was still smoking cigarettes at that time and the combination of Cialis and cigarettes gave me stomach pain, so I had to stop using it. I remember that Cialis had an effect on me, but it was not as strong as Viagra. I don’t smoke anymore, and I’ve made a little bit of progress since I started rebooting, so I’ve decided to try daily Cialis again. I’m starting this in 3-4 days, and I really, really hope that it will work. Keeping my fingers crossed…

After almost 500 days of rebooting, I’m starting to feel like I have to stop counting days, going hard mode, avoiding orgasms and all those things. I did two hard mode streaks of 90 days; I also went 150 consecutive days without O (which included 90 days no sex and 60 days when I would have sex without O). As I said, I’ve noticed some minor improvements, but nothing close to what other guys report on this forum. I still never have morning wood. Literally, never. I still have almost no libido, no natural urge for sex. Fortunately it seems I’m wired enough to my girlfriend to have a regular sex life, but I can’t say that rebooting has helped me a lot so far. Except for one thing: I used to have delayed ejaculation, and I don’t have it anymore. I’m almost certain the reboot helped with that, though I can’t be really sure.

I unfortunately haven’t noticed any big changes during my reboot yet. I don’t feel like I’m going in and out of flatlines when I have sex; actually I didn’t feel like I had a flatline at any point in my reboot. But I never felt a rise in libido either. On two isolated occasions, when I was around 50-60 days in my hard mode streaks, I had some kind of window during which I felt aroused and had an erection for more than 15 minutes without touching myself or fantasizing. But those two moments happened at night, and I believe I must have waken up a few seconds before having a wet dream, and since waking up prevented the wet dream, I was on the verge of orgasm, and that explains the momentary rise of libido (which would go back to normal a few hours later). Other than that, I haven’t noticed any rise or decline in my libido. Either I need more time, either my problem ain’t porn. Unfortunately, there’s no way to know. I needed manual stimulation to get hard when I was watching porn, so the PIED test can’t really provide any information about what causes my ED.

I’m meeting with a sex therapist in two weeks. Hopefully, that will help me realize a few things about sex and intimacy. There’s one thing that makes me doubt, though… Usually, therapists and doctors say that you have psychogenic ED if you still have morning wood and can easily achieve an erection on your own. But as I said, I don’t have morning wood, and it’s not easy to get an erection by myself, especially without fantasy. So, theoretically I don’t seem to have psychogenic ED, but who knows? I still think therapy can help me a lot. But absence of morning wood usually means you don’t have psychogenic ED, so…
Hey bro about that morning wood issue I had similar problem no MW for a pretty long period.Read this thread of mine https://forum.rebootnation.org/index.php?threads/20469/ especially things that user casanova wrote.I'm pretty sure that will help you.Also watch this video when you find the time:
.I mean it is 24 mins long but I think you will like it.Best of luck brother !
 

otanerferguson

Active Member
Dear Bilbo,

First of all, I want to thank you for all your encouraging words and fruitful exchanges. You have been a positive constant in my journey. I apologize for not reciprocating all throughout the reboot, but as I shared at some point going into others' journals filled me with anxiety and what ifs.

As I see it, you in your thirties are at the sweet-spot (or bitter-spot) age that had their sexual awakening to high-speed porn. Us in our forties had some ten years of magazine porn, slow-speed internet downloaded pics and perhaps cable porn which you couldn't skip to the good parts and that still meant delayed ejaculation throughout our adult sex life, coming to think of it. I've been talking about this with friends and most of them had DE for years and a lot of them are suffering from ED now. That is to say that not even slow speed porn was harmless, it drove us a step closer to sexual dysfunction. We were never the studs our grandparents were (and that we thought we were in our glorified past).

One generation later, and you guys in your thirties skipped the DE phase, having had access to high-speed internet porn many years before seeing your first real nipple or right around the same time. I would wager that's why you've seen an improvement in the DE department. So I am sure it is a matter of deep conditioning that is getting in the way in your case and it truly is a matter of time. Just, a longer time.

I have often thought, similar to your thoughts, "what if I already busted my prostate or my pelvic floor muscles from overuse" or something along those lines, but the truth is that the body can handle lots of abuse and once you stop that abuse, it regenerates in comparatively little time. I used to have a lot of prostatitis pain, to the point that I constantly thought of prostate cancer with a fear of an actual diagnosis. All that is gone now, who knew. And for some things, the body is resilient enough that it doesn't even think of it as abuse. It's like saying, could it be that I've distended my anus from crapping every day. As nonsensical as that.

As for wet dreams and morning wood, as you've read in my journal I've been through days where they manifested, but for the most part they are not a constant anymore. Sometimes, I will wake up in the middle of the night and will have a boner, but nothing like having morning wood that lingers for hours in the morning, like in other guys' experiences. I am also not a horndog all the time, so I haven't turned into a Stallion like in other people's recounts. However, once we initiate foreplay with my now wife, things are working okay. Most of the day, though, I'm not thinking about sex. That is to say, don't obsess about morning woods or wet dreams. While they might be related, they aren't indispensable to start seeing some improvements. I am no expert, but that has been my experience.

In the testosterone department, while I think the hormone plays a part in overall manliness, muscle tone, drive to succeed, etc. I think that its role in erections is quite marginal. Sure it has to be present and not overwhelmed by progesterone so that the signaling can go through, but just enough is enough in my opinion. One doesn't have to become a raging bull to be able to have a boner. Just mentally recall how many "wimpy" guys in your grandparent's circle of acquaintances had several kids (or wives and affairs). I am convinced that the crucial signaling to maintaining erections happens in the reward system and it's more of a dopamine signaling thing in your nucleus accumbens than a testosterone signaling in your balls. And that dopamine signaling is messed up not only from porn, but from many other types of overstimulation like apps, notifications, video games, junk foods, etc. As I said before, if you want to get testosterone off your mind, follow this protocol to the letter.

It is my opinion that there's nothing wrong with your pelvic floor or your testosterone.

I believe, it all comes down to not masturbating to porn ever again—maybe not even masturbate or get a hand job at all—and "have fun, spend time with your loved ones, laugh, go for walks, move your body, commune with nature, talk to every woman that crosses your path, just don't be a dick, eat good wholesome foods, have some wine," like I've written everywhere. You know I've searched for the magic bullet, and in the end I found out that there isn't one but just living a healthy life, enjoying it to the fullest without overstimulation of any kind (be it porn, or apps, or videogames, or junk foods), and waiting. And this is probably disappointing to read, but it's what I have for you today.

The one thing that works is removing porn from your life. Just give it more time.

All my good vibes to you my friend!!!
 
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Cmax

Active Member
Hi folks,

Just writing a few things about this "journey" of mine. My story isn't really different from other stories you'll find here: I am 31 years old, and I have suffered from erectile dysfunction since I was a teenager, probably indued by porn. No morning woods, and no good erections, no matter if I am having sex with a woman or masturbating. Viagra helps, but sex is still always complicated. I have seen a little progress since I quit watching porn a few months ago, but nothing big (I had stopped P but not M). Feeling discouraged about this, like I am not really alive, but I am trying to keep my head up.

I'll probably update that thread once in a while, so feel free to leave any comments. Thanks for reading.
Stop masturbation.....especially if you are fantasizing ......it has helped me with erection hardness....I am on day 83 of the reboot and ready to have sex with my wife! Good luck !
 
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