Started Friday July 3rd

LetItGoAlready

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Hi TheNorman,

Just read through your journal, and I must say, I'm impressed how much you've progressed since Day 1. Going to therapy, opening up to people in your life about your struggles, letting go of a heavy emotionally burden that's been weighing you down - all good things that are propelling you towards the you that you want to be.

Like you, I was also found out by my wife, and she was devastated. But she very much left it up to me to figure out how to deal with it. Since then, over the years, we have had some very candid conversations about the emotional baggage I've been carrying around since childhood and why it's been so hard to move on from porn. I think being able to be candid with your SO about some of the deeper emotional stuff is really freeing if your they're open to that. I'm glad your SO is supportive and has given you the chance to prove yourself. By all accounts, you seem to be knocking it out of the park.

Keep up the good work!
 

workinprogressUK

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TheNorman said:
I am proud that despite those feelings there is no defensiveness or avoidance on my part. Just got to make more of an effort.

Nice reaction to that little bit of pressure. Not easy for us guys to keep communicating to the extent that women expect, is it?
 

TheNorman

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Thanks so much LetItGo, in the past I would have felt a weird double feeling of being happy with your kind words and also a deep feeling of resentment/sadness, knowing that when people complimented me they didn't know about that dark side. The beauty of this forum is we all know why we're here, we all know what our struggles are and we recognize them as just that: Something we struggle with that doesn't, or won't continue to define us. My SO is absolutely incredible and I am so grateful for her. She definitely makes this whole thing much easier to manage.

WIP I read your journal before reading mine so your comment makes a lot of sense. As men, we are so programmed to be shut off from those sorts of feelings and conversations and that's another piece of the puzzle. I'm proud of not avoiding conversations or being defensive, still doesn't mean I know what's going on!
 

TheNorman

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A better day as far as being more present and clear in my head. I don't know if it was the getting settled at home after being away, or just feeling a bit burnt out, but I have struggled the past couple days with memory and mindfulness. Today I started jotting down notes to help me remember stuff and feel better about things. My SO had a therapy session as well which always helps her too. She took the kids for a socially-distanced visit with her cousin today so I had a block of around 4 hours on my own. It's funny, I was definitely aware of how that would have been a PMO greenlight in the past, and she did ask how I would handle it but again, no urges at all. Just happy to go play my drums for a bit and then got back to a heavy workload that has kept me busy all week. Now off to bed, therapy tomorrow and we're starting to really get into stuff which is both exciting and scary.
 

TheNorman

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Thanks UK, your message was a nice surprise when I logged in today and the feeling is mutual.

Therapy was good. We didn't get into EMDR this week as we still had some logistics-type stuff to work through and I just felt a little too frayed to get into it to be honest. This week has been rough. Could just be coming back from up north for so long and the reality of all the work and school and health stuff being on the horizon.

I just got back from 3 weeks away, I got very little exercise, work has been a bit scattered, health stuff with my father-in-law and with my in-laws dog. No wonder I'm feeling foggy. I'm going to set a 25 minute timer tomorrow to remind myself to get up, get a drink of water, maybe some chin-ups, maybe some pushups, maybe some walking around. Just moving a bit more will be a great step in the right direction.
 

TheNorman

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Found tomato-timer.com and used it for my half work day to remind myself to get up and move. Turns out it wasn't all that necessary as in the afternoon we took the kids to the playground with a splashpad (something we've desperately missed due to Covid). It was just incredible. Played with them, chased them around, enjoyed flirting with my SO while the kids did their own thing for a bit. Just a lovely way to spend time with the family. Came home and even though I was running around a lot in the heat I felt energized enough to get all the cleaning done around the house. Feel really positive about things. I definitely know just getting some fresh air and exercise helps with that. My SO and I have a date night tomorrow and the kids are spending the night with the in-laws so it will be nice to just spend some time with my wife without worrying about what the kids are up to. Hope everyone has a great weekend!
 

TheNorman

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Thanks Joel! Here comes another one!
I had an amazing day with the family, an awesome date with my SO followed by a nice walk around the neighbourhood when we got home. We had a tough conversation about the frequency and locations of my past PMO's on our dinner date. That conversation was painful and embarrassing. That didn't put a damper on how great of a day it was though, it only served as a great reminder of how much better a day like today feels without all that stuff in my life. It's a clich? but I truly am the best version of myself right now and I'm only going to work harder at being better.

Thanks again to all you guys on here for your kind words, your advice, your questions, your honesty and sincerity about your own struggles. I'm truly grateful for all of you.
 

TheNorman

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Well, the day certainly started poorly. I don't know how but my lower back is right messed up and I opted to stay in bed (I slept poorly last night) rather than get up and try to stretch and get some advil in me. The back not being the real issue: Our kids were sleeping at the in-laws and it would have been a perfect time to get up and enjoy breakfast and some nice time with my wife. She was quite hurt when I finally did get up but thankfully after talking a bit we were able to work through it and went out on a cafe patio for some brunch. Then I got a tonne of yard work done (which did not help my back at all) and then took the kids to a playground where my wife and I had another discussion about porn and the effect it has had on our sex life. That was not fun either. So in summary: Some real highs and lows but at the end of the day I'm still feeling a lot better than if I didn't feel like I could talk to her about that stuff. Progress.
 

LetItGoAlready

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Hi TheNorman,

I can certainly relate to the less than fun stuff. I've had back pain for years, and the episodes only seem to get worse during stressful times. (Actually, according to a book I read once called "Healing Back Pain," by John E. Sarno, back pain often has an emotional/psychological origin, so it probably wasn't a coincidence.) When the pain was at its worst, it was hard for me contribute fully as a parent and partner, which irritated my wife and led to me feeling guilty that I wasn't doing my part. Add a difficult discussion to the mix like you had and I can only imagine how that must have left you feeling... Actually, I don't have to imagine. I've had plenty of days where it felt like the universe was just piling it on. I'm sure everyone here can relate to that feeling.

The important thing is to just hang in there and stay the course, no matter what the universe throws at you, which it sounds like you're doing.

Keep it up, buddy. You're doing great.
 

TheNorman

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Thanks LIGA. Back is still quite tight but better than it was. I definitely know what you mean about the physical being affected by the mental. Family got in a nice walk in the woods at lunch which always helps the back and the mind. I got a lot of stuff done today and felt pretty on-point mentally despite not a great sleep last night. Looking forward to heading to bed early tonight, with the hope that it will ease up my back even more.
 

workinprogressUK

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Hope the back continues to relax for you. Can't make those fireside chats with your SO any easier if you're having to work hard to manage pain and mobility. Well done on maintaining your positive outlook. Positive vibes coming your way from me.
 

Andrew1973

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Hope the back is feeling better soon Norman, and so pleased to read about your continued personal and marital growth.
 

TheNorman

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Thanks my UK brothers. I hope nothing but good things your way too. You've both been through some shit recently and I hope you are able to use it as a springboard towards better days.
My back was actually the worst it has been so far this morning but lots of heating-pad time, stretching, some muscle cream, some advil and a nice walk in the woods and it's feeling ok. I am going to roll out my calves and hamstrings before bed and possibly take some muscle relaxants to try to keep it from getting too tight. As for my mental state, I have been very short with the kids today, especially this morning and my back is culprit #1 for that. Them leaving stuff everywhere wasn't helping that either though. Kids are in bed and wife went for socially distant drinks with a friend so I'm here on my own, which is no issue. I have a history of being able to just decide to not do something anymore (drugs, junk food, cigarettes, meat) and that would just be the way it was for years on end. I could never apply that kind of no-bullshit mental wall with PMO when I tried. I feel like that wall is built now and every day I keep adding bricks, making it more and more solid. I had another talk with my SO about sex and the effect porn had on me. Fuck that toxic, fake, empty waste of brain space. I never want to go back to that.
 

LetItGoAlready

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I feel like that wall is built now and every day I keep adding bricks, making it more and more solid.

Sounds like you're in a good place mentally, TheNorman. Just keep building that wall around the things you value most in life and don't even give P another thought.
 

TheNorman

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My back is on the mend which helps the brain stuff. I started a little pet project of creating a family tree. It's been a fun little distraction. Not much else to report really. No tough conversations with the SO, no major blowups with the kids. Happy to have a bit of a wind-down kind of day as next week is going to be absolute madness for work.

One of my favourite movies from when I was a kid is "The Neverending Story". In it, there's a scene where a traveller and his horse go through a swamp, The Swamp of Sadness. If you allow sadness and despair to overcome you, you sink in the swamp and die. Porn is like that swamp. Don't let it drag you down. Keep walking, even if you're barely making any ground.
 

TheNorman

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Good day overall capped off with an intense therapy session. I am spent. Good night gang. Hope you all get some quality sleep and are ready to kick Friday's ass.
 

TheNorman

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Thanks UK! As I went to bed I realized that a lot of you fine lads already exist in the future! Back is even better today. Really noticing the tightness in my hamstrings and calves which is good because those are workable.
The therapy session was an absolute blubber-fest. We tackled a memory that even before therapy caused me to cry whenever I remembered it. It still hurts, it's still a bit raw but after EMDR and working through a lot of it I feel like I've broken some of it's spell.

To those of you reading this, it will not sound nearly as traumatic to you as it felt for me at the time.
When I was 6 or 7 years old we lived on a street with a little park right across from where we lived. Me and my siblings would play there, unsupervised, for hours (as kids tended to do in the 80's I guess). Another boy was there and he asked if I wanted to go to his house and I did. We talked and walked and I must not have paid much attention to where we were going because after it was time to go home I had no idea where I was or how to get back home. I wandered around and finally (despite the fear of what the stranger would say or do) I went and knocked on someones door and asked them to help me. They got on the phone and called what I assume was the police and I was able to get back home. When I got there my parents were so relieved and were crying and I was crying and then as punishment for going to this kids house without asking my father put me over his knee and spanked me.

Doesn't sound like much to get worked up over does it?

Well in my session, as we went through all of this I realized that when I was lost I was terrified. It was dark, I didn't know what to do as I had wandered around trying to find my street for what felt like an eternity. That memory is etched into my memory. I can see the house clearly, and if I wanted to I might even be able to find it on Google street view, I remember it that vividly. I also don't remember how I did get home from there. Did my parents come get me? Did the police? You'd think those parts would be there too but they're not. So that's part one.

Part two is how relieved I was to get home, how much my parents were crying when I ran to them and hugged them. This part feels very vivid too but it feels more detached (like watching a movie) whereas the part where I'm lost I can see it from my own eyes.

Part three is when my dad took me over his knee and spanked me. This part is the most detached and the most traumatic. Not from being spanked, I was a rough-and-tumble kid and would have gotten over it quickly if it was something I felt was justified. What hurt me then and has continued to stay in my mind is the betrayal I felt. There I was, this little kid, who was terrified and so relieved to be home and I was being punished for something after what was the scariest moment of my young life.

I have had a lot of issues with disassociation throughout my life but when I think back I see clearly that this moment is when I felt like these people that were supposed to love and protect me and betrayed me so deeply that I could no longer trust them. A 7 year old child realizing that to protect themselves they had to make sure that those same people could never see me make a mistake because deserving of punishment or not they could not be trusted. I had this sick vision of my sad anguished face pulling on a mask and promising to myself that they would never see that face underneath again. At the time I don't think the religion stuff really was a big factor but with all that stuff as a precursor it makes sense that rather than ever rock the boat and ask questions or make mistakes I hid it, swallowed it all. I am a very positive person. I am a chatty, happy, outgoing and friendly. I always have been but after I started my reboot everything about myself has been thrown into question. If I could watch porn and keep it a secret from everyone what other things about myself weren't true? I lied constantly about every little thing to avoid that confrontation and judgement and disappointing look. What else about me was a lie?

That single moment of my childhood casted a shadow over my entire life. For me recovery isn't just about addiction. Addiction is a symptom of a much larger problem. I am working on finding out who I really am and being genuine and truthful to that person. I am learning to love and appreciate the person that I am. I am learning to deal with anything that comes my way as the strong, capable man that I know I can be. Revisiting 30+ years of memories and traumas and wins and losses and seeing them as they were: Things that happened to me that I handled the best way I knew how to at the time. I still feel embarrassed or sad or remorseful but most importantly I remind myself that I got to where I am now despite all of that.

I'm not using PMO to escape my thoughts. I'm not using fantasy to avoid dealing with things that feel like they're too hard to handle. I feel like I am really me, I am really here, I am taking care of business. I'm finding a better way to be.
You might feel like you're broken. You might feel like getting beyond porn isn't worth all the pain and effort. I'm telling you that you are not broken. You are not a lost cause. You are a person who like me, allowed something fake to replace a reality that seemed too real. Let's keep it real, knowing that the reward is so worth the effort. Thanks for reading and thanks for being here for me.

 
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