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fugu

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Hey, I know I've said this before but your streak is amazing man. Very inspiring.
 

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fugu said:
Hey, I know I've said this before but your streak is amazing man. Very inspiring.
Thanks for all of the kind words but it's not amazing, it's just me, finally, getting up to where I should have been at 14. :) It's how I want to live.
 

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LTE said:
fugu said:
Hey, I know I've said this before but your streak is amazing man. Very inspiring.
Thanks for all of the kind words but it's not amazing, it's just me, finally, getting up to where I should have been at 14. :) It's how I want to live.
That sounds like a pretty mature 14 to me, but I guess kids are growing up faster nowadays. I continue to be amazed by all the young people on this forum who are trying to tackle this problem just as earnestly as us older folks are. Still, I don't know if there was quite this level of awareness of porn abuse/addiction back when I was a teen. Perhaps if I'd been fortunate to have been raised a teen in this era, I'd have come to this stage in my life sooner. But as a product of the 70s/80s, I sometimes wonder if I even had a chance. Oh well, better late than never, right? And as long as there are people like you here inspiring us all to be better men, I know I at least have a chance this time around.
 

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IMO, every adolescent male needs to learn that love cannot be found in his right hand. The earlier the better.
 

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I agree completely LTE. But, it is a pretty natural thing for an adolescent to try, to be curious, or even to accidentally find out that M feels good. It will never be love, but the physical lure of pleasure from M has been around for how long??

We also have to be careful with young minds and not make M seem more attractive by creating that great taboo. We warn about drugs, alcohol etc etc and often just make these things seem sexier and more desirable???
 

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fcjl8 said:
I agree completely LTE. But, it is a pretty natural thing for an adolescent to try, to be curious, or even to accidentally find out that M feels good. It will never be love, but the physical lure of pleasure from M has been around for how long??

We also have to be careful with young minds and not make M seem more attractive by creating that great taboo. We warn about drugs, alcohol etc etc and often just make these things seem sexier and more desirable???
I remember reading a sex ed book in high school that said most boys try masturbation but soon realize that it's not truly satisfying and they move on. I think that this was probably the case before porn became such a force in our society.

Make no mistake, ready access to porn holds dangers all its own.
 
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fcjl8 said:
I agree completely LTE. But, it is a pretty natural thing for an adolescent to try, to be curious, or even to accidentally find out that M feels good. It will never be love, but the physical lure of pleasure from M has been around for how long??

We also have to be careful with young minds and not make M seem more attractive by creating that great taboo. We warn about drugs, alcohol etc etc and often just make these things seem sexier and more desirable???
I remember reading a sex ed book in high school that said most boys try masturbation but soon realize that it's not truly satisfying and they move on. I think that this was probably the case before porn became such a force in our society.

Make no mistake, ready access to porn holds dangers all its own.

This seems to be the biggest problem. My interest in porn skyrocketed with high speed internet. It feeds the voyeur lurking within all of us. Kids are curious voyeurs and great at being sneaky.
 

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Freethinker said:
LTE said:
fcjl8 said:
I agree completely LTE. But, it is a pretty natural thing for an adolescent to try, to be curious, or even to accidentally find out that M feels good. It will never be love, but the physical lure of pleasure from M has been around for how long??

We also have to be careful with young minds and not make M seem more attractive by creating that great taboo. We warn about drugs, alcohol etc etc and often just make these things seem sexier and more desirable???
I remember reading a sex ed book in high school that said most boys try masturbation but soon realize that it's not truly satisfying and they move on. I think that this was probably the case before porn became such a force in our society.

Make no mistake, ready access to porn holds dangers all its own.

This seems to be the biggest problem. My interest in porn skyrocketed with high speed internet. It feeds the voyeur lurking within all of us. Kids are curious voyeurs and great at being sneaky.
It definitely seems to have a quantum effect. Porn has been around for a long time, but you usually had to sneak off to the seedy side of town to find it. That is no longer the case with the Internet as a delivery system.
 

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I remember going to the seedy part of town, and it was embarrassing.  At least it was somewhat contained back then to a certain area.  Yes, magazines have been around for a long time, but access to movies is much different today.  Now that we can view P from wherever we want the rules of the game have changed dramatically, and the consequences have been staggering!
 

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This is something I just posted at the old forum and I thought it might be good to have on this forum:

I hear a lot of people talk about events in their lives as they relate to recovery. It doesn't work that way. Life is life, and sh*t happens. If you wait for everything to be perfect you'll wait until your dying day. In the last 460 days I gone through the death of several relatives and several friends. I've had turmoil in a relationship and I've watched another friend doing his damnedest to destroy himself. None of this relates to my recovery. Recovery has to be unconditional.
 

fcjl8

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You are right LTE, it is good that you remind all of us that life still happens. It is much easier to deal with when not spaced out on chronic masturbation. And the good times are so much better.
 

Jverhoye

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I concur, LTE.  Waiting for the "perfect time" is a trap, because it doesn't exist, and that mindset can prevent someone from moving forward with recovery.
 

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fcjl8 said:
You are right LTE, it is good that you remind all of us that life still happens. It is much easier to deal with when not spaced out on chronic masturbation. And the good times are so much better.
I don't want to come across as harsh, but, ultimately, you have to get to the point where you no longer care about what is going on around you and that you will make this work, no matter what.

As you are aware, FC, I went through some very hard times last summer. Family members were dying all around me and a lot of other things were going on, things that were difficult at best. Ultimately, I had to plow on through and I'm glad that I did. I was fortunate to be able to keep my wits about me. Wasn't it ASG who's wife had a stroke last year? I know that it hurt him, but he kept on moving forward. He just reached 400 days. It reminds me of that song from the '80s that went;

Nobody's gonna break my stride,
Nobody's gonna slow me down.

Jverhoye said:
I concur, LTE.  Waiting for the "perfect time" is a trap, because it doesn't exist, and that mindset can prevent someone from moving forward with recovery.

If not now, when? 
 

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@ LTE
LTE said:
fcjl8 said:
You are right LTE, it is good that you remind all of us that life still happens. It is much easier to deal with when not spaced out on chronic masturbation. And the good times are so much better.
I don't want to come across as harsh, but, ultimately, you have to get to the point where you no longer care about what is going on around you and that you will make this work, no matter what.

As you are aware, FC, I went through some very hard times last summer. Family members were dying all around me and a lot of other things were going on, things that were difficult at best. Ultimately, I had to plow on through and I'm glad that I did. I was fortunate to be able to keep my wits about me. Wasn't it ASG who's wife had a stroke last year? I know that it hurt him, but he kept on moving forward. He just reached 400 days. It reminds me of that song from the '80s that went;

Nobody's gonna break my stride,
Nobody's gonna slow me down.

Jverhoye said:
I concur, LTE.  Waiting for the "perfect time" is a trap, because it doesn't exist, and that mindset can prevent someone from moving forward with recovery.

If not now, when? 

One of my favorite quotes by C.S Lewis - "Favorable conditions never come"
 

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Gabe Deem said:
One of my favorite quotes by C.S Lewis - "Favorable conditions never come"
i'll comment on that, but I want to wait until the time is just right. :)
 

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fcjl8 said:
You are right LTE, it is good that you remind all of us that life still happens. It is much easier to deal with when not spaced out on chronic masturbation. And the good times are so much better.
I don't want to come across as harsh, but, ultimately, you have to get to the point where you no longer care about what is going on around you and that you will make this work, no matter what.

As you are aware, FC, I went through some very hard times last summer. Family members were dying all around me and a lot of other things were going on, things that were difficult at best. Ultimately, I had to plow on through and I'm glad that I did. I was fortunate to be able to keep my wits about me. Wasn't it ASG who's wife had a stroke last year? I know that it hurt him, but he kept on moving forward. He just reached 400 days. It reminds me of that song from the '80s that went;

Nobody's gonna break my stride,
Nobody's gonna slow me down.

Jverhoye said:
I concur, LTE.  Waiting for the "perfect time" is a trap, because it doesn't exist, and that mindset can prevent someone from moving forward with recovery.

If not now, when?

Agree. It has to be number one priority. Now is the time. We all have drama and trauma in our lives, and it won't completely let up, as that is part of life. Being PMO free allows one to gradually learn the skills needed to deal with those life stresses. It isn't easy. But it's worth it.
 

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I was just thinking about all of this tonight. Back in the porn days I was looking for something that I am no longer seeking. I'm not sure how to define it, but there was something I read into nudity or anything similar that I no longer am seeking. It's a great sense of freedom.
 

fcjl8

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I think nudity and sensuality are generally positive parts of the human experience. We have been created ( designed and evolved ) to enjoy and respond to these states. But, there is a line that us PMO addicts crossed way back that actually hurt that precious relationship. Great that you are going so far beyond just the base desires.

I think free from PMO we can rediscover the healthy aspects of nudity and the wonderful physical pleasures of being with a partner.

Nudity is not a commodity, a "thing" packaged for consumers and easily re-stocked.
 
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