The recoverynation workshops and the black mailing technique

zaraki888

Active Member
Hello everyone,

After almost 5 years I still struggle with porn addiction. I am back at rebootnation and this time I will follow the recoverynation program. I should have done this in the beginning. Anyway I will update my recovery here unless I change my mind.

Currently me and a friend are doing ''the black mailing technique'' It is a promise we both made to pay each other money everytime one of us relapse. Without a fine or some form of punishment, it is much easier to fall back into old habits I believe, because there is no physical noticeable consequence of the act. Just like people only wear facemask or follow the rules to not get fined.

This technique has been designed at first to overcome the dangerous chaser effect and to reach a certain number of days porn, masturbatoin and orgams free. The beginning of a reboot is in my experience always the most difficult one to get out.

We decided to keep the challenge going and we both are doing pretty good at the moment.

Take care my brothers!

 

EKoty

Member
I wish you the best!  I hope that your blackmail works for you, how are you tracking each other for proof?  Is the penalty substantial?
 

zaraki888

Active Member
Thank you.

You mean the proof if one of us relapse? That is not really necessary I think because I do the challenge for myself and he does the challenge for himself. Relapsing and not paying money is just me lying to myself and getting stuck in my addiction.

Substantial you mean how much? We pay each other 5 euro for every time one of us masturbate on porn and orgasm. After I relapse, I have to pay immediately. To prevent the chaser effect from happening.

The rules don't have to be the same because as I mentioned, I am doing it for myself. We both use different rules.

My rule was as following: whenever I touch myself, I have to pay 5 euro. If I also watch porn and touching myself, I have to pay another 5 euro.

It is much harder to almost impossible for me to stop myself when I am aroused but it is much easier to prevent getting aroused. Being strict to myself.

I wish you the best!  I hope that your blackmail works for you, how are you tracking each other for proof?  Is the penalty substantial?
 

benb

Member
Hello zaraki888,

Glad to hear that you are giving it another try! This time will be the right one :)

Black mailing technique seems good, as it will help you stay truthful to yourself and keep you accountable. However, at some point, you should also consider trying to reward yourself when you achieve a certain point of abstinence. Rewards work usually better than punishment, as the human brain is driven more by what it can get than what it can be deprived of.

Safe journey bro!
 

zaraki888

Active Member
Hello BennyB,

Thank you.

I didn't thought about rewarding myself and how the brain works like that. Glad you posted. I will consider rewarding myself when I achieve a certain number of abstinence and see if this works for me. :)

Did you know by the way there was a study done with rats giving an unlimited amount of dopamine when they pressed a button? According to this study, after an amount of release of dopamine, the body releases cortisol. The rats died of an overdoses of dopamine. They stopped eating and kept pressing the button. I used to reward myself or to escape the urges to watching youtube video's non stop. But at the end I got stressed out somehow and I had to relapse to discharge myself. Maybe this was the reason I decided not to reward myself? I kept going like the rats in the experiment.


 
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