My journey to be a better man.

guitar1968

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Thanks @LettingPornGo - I'm on the journey just like everyone here. Those 6 months were great. There were definitely ups and downs, but I'm not considering a lapse as a failure. Maybe just a minor setback. I don't want porn to run my life any longer and if I slip here and there, it isn't winning, I am. So, I'm feeling good. Yesterday was a good day. I feel better. I had some thoughts to look at things I shouldn't but I stayed strong and just moved on. Taking a moment to think it through really helps. It's the times where emotions and pain take over that it gets harder. Still plenty to work on.

With that said, I'm heading out. Short post today. I have work to do.

Take care friends. Stay strong. Every day without porn is a win.
 

guitar1968

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So, I'm on a downward spiral. I'm here trying to gain control before I'm lost for good. I had a lapse and that lead to another lapse. And then another. I had a decent weekend, but yesterday right back to the place I don't want to be. It's amazing to me that I could do so well for so long just to end up right back to where I started. Maybe I'll have some residual benefits from my time abstaining. Hard to know right now. I'm here today to try and stop the bleeding. If you ever want to feel like a true helpless addict, abstain for a long time and then lapse. You'll feel the rush of adrenaline that has been building up and your brain starts to go nuts. There are a lot of reasons I'm where I'm at today and they are all on me. I have to remember that if I'm unhappy in my relationship and I choose to stay, it's on me. If I choose to masturbate or watch porn, it's on me. No one is making me do these things. Sure, there will always be stress and outside influences, but it all comes down to me.

I have to work on me. I have to change or I'll be forever stuck in this cycle. So I'm going to get back to what worked. As soon as I feel the urge, I'll come back here. I'll journal every day, I'll read what is working for all of you, I'll recommit to eating well and exercising - yeah, that has gone down hill in the last few weeks as well. I can't just let it all go. I've come to far.

Any words of encouragement you all can offer, please do. Anything that has helped you after a bad lapse, please share. I'm here asking for help today because I am struggling hard. I know I can pull it back, but I need to find that strength in myself to do so.

I hope you all take control of your lives for good and keep the demons at bay.
 
So, I'm on a downward spiral. I'm here trying to gain control before I'm lost for good. I had a lapse and that lead to another lapse. And then another. I had a decent weekend, but yesterday right back to the place I don't want to be. It's amazing to me that I could do so well for so long just to end up right back to where I started. Maybe I'll have some residual benefits from my time abstaining. Hard to know right now. I'm here today to try and stop the bleeding. If you ever want to feel like a true helpless addict, abstain for a long time and then lapse. You'll feel the rush of adrenaline that has been building up and your brain starts to go nuts. There are a lot of reasons I'm where I'm at today and they are all on me. I have to remember that if I'm unhappy in my relationship and I choose to stay, it's on me. If I choose to masturbate or watch porn, it's on me. No one is making me do these things. Sure, there will always be stress and outside influences, but it all comes down to me.

I have to work on me. I have to change or I'll be forever stuck in this cycle. So I'm going to get back to what worked. As soon as I feel the urge, I'll come back here. I'll journal every day, I'll read what is working for all of you, I'll recommit to eating well and exercising - yeah, that has gone down hill in the last few weeks as well. I can't just let it all go. I've come to far.

Any words of encouragement you all can offer, please do. Anything that has helped you after a bad lapse, please share. I'm here asking for help today because I am struggling hard. I know I can pull it back, but I need to find that strength in myself to do so.

I hope you all take control of your lives for good and keep the demons at bay.
Hey guitar1968!
I'm sorry to hear about your relapse. It sucks & the feelings of discouragement is real. I just spent time re-reading your journal and you've come so far. You are making such great strides of being free from this. Don't give up. Don't spiral down. Remember why you are fighting so hard against porn. We have been there and you are here for support.
Thanks for continuing to be an inspiration & encouragement to me, low moments included. Your honesty helps me to do the same
 

Phineas 808

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It's amazing to me that I could do so well for so long just to end up right back to where I started.

First off, Guitar, sorry for your recent struggles!

That's the thing, brother, is you never end up back to where you started. I know, it may look and feel the same, but you're never truly at 0, even if your count, or non-count is reset. Think of all the progress you mentioned, think of your concerns are certainly not the same pre-April, am I right? Maybe you weren't too concerned before joining RN, but your level of wanting to better yourself, and the solid and/or gradual steps you've taken to better your life are by no means lost. Everything counts.

Anything that has helped you after a bad lapse, please share.

I've certainly been here, a few times, Guitar. I may be here again, but I'm not (trying to) plan on it... I've been close for a while now, and it's a really strange place for me, especially after a weekend fight with my wife. I'm coming back into an equanimous place right now, though... Last night I had a chance, I even took the phone with me into the restroom (around 3 am), but instead of looking up anything (it just wasn't in me- and I didn't want to force a lapse, if that makes sense), I deleted a couple links in Youtube.

Back to what's helped me after a bad lapse... (the following words will be what my thought processes are in the same place)

The thing about a bad lapse is it kind of 'resets' by itself. You know that's not what you want, not who you are anymore, and so all you can do is look up. There may have been a moment, a day or two, or three, but now you feel back to your 'baseline self', and you know you need to make a stand. What I do is think about the things that led up to it, not the relational stuff, but those little compromising things we do, like p-subs. I know that my current behavior was originally 'cued' - or 'triggered' if you prefer, and I acted on that to some extent. If you saved anything, or have follows that put you in that mood, delete or block those...

Do something that's going to tell yourself that you're making a stand. Forgive yourself, understand yourself, but put your foot down as a signal to your lower brain that you're in control now, and that shananigans are over. This can look like a recommitment to your plan (what you say originally worked for you), maybe tweek it to match your current situation. Challenge yourself to a new goal (small or big- though I suggest smaller goals to build confidence in your self-control). Record this, track it, and reward yourself in some way for keeping even the smallest goals.

Step back, Guitar, and take in the bigger picture- out of the year (since April), how many days you were abstaining versus how many lapses occurred, and compare that with pre-April, or pre-RN, and you'll see for yourself that you are indeed in the fight, and no one here (least of all me) is counting you out!

(PM me if you need to).
 

JerryTX

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So, I'm on a downward spiral. I'm here trying to gain control before I'm lost for good. I had a lapse and that lead to another lapse. And then another. I had a decent weekend, but yesterday right back to the place I don't want to be. It's amazing to me that I could do so well for so long just to end up right back to where I started. Maybe I'll have some residual benefits from my time abstaining. Hard to know right now. I'm here today to try and stop the bleeding. If you ever want to feel like a true helpless addict, abstain for a long time and then lapse. You'll feel the rush of adrenaline that has been building up and your brain starts to go nuts. There are a lot of reasons I'm where I'm at today and they are all on me. I have to remember that if I'm unhappy in my relationship and I choose to stay, it's on me. If I choose to masturbate or watch porn, it's on me. No one is making me do these things. Sure, there will always be stress and outside influences, but it all comes down to me.

I have to work on me. I have to change or I'll be forever stuck in this cycle. So I'm going to get back to what worked. As soon as I feel the urge, I'll come back here. I'll journal every day, I'll read what is working for all of you, I'll recommit to eating well and exercising - yeah, that has gone down hill in the last few weeks as well. I can't just let it all go. I've come to far.

Any words of encouragement you all can offer, please do. Anything that has helped you after a bad lapse, please share. I'm here asking for help today because I am struggling hard. I know I can pull it back, but I need to find that strength in myself to do so.

I hope you all take control of your lives for good and keep the demons at bay.
Hey @guitar1968 . We have been on this journey together and I to have had a lapse which led to more edging and P subs and really some MO but not to P. I like what Phineas said and I have done this as well.
You know that's not what you want, not who you are anymore, and so all you can do is look up. There may have been a moment, a day or two, or three, but now you feel back to your 'baseline self', and you know you need to make a stand. What I do is think about the things that led up to it, not the relational stuff, but those little compromising things we do, like p-subs. I know that my current behavior was originally 'cued' - or 'triggered' if you prefer, and I acted on that to some extent.
This journey is tough and the P demon will never cease to chase us. So I did just what Phineas said above. I will not be this man controlled by PMO!!! I will make a stand and RESET my mind. I look at the circumstances that led to the lapse (Drinking and on the road alone in a hotel) and what has led to some Psub behaviors over the last few months. Those circumstances were major work stress, being home alone, boredom, not enough sex with the wife.

WE ARE NOT STUCK! I know you know this isn't who you want to be! Yes this is on us as men but you have and will continue to beat this demon. Will there be times of struggle? Yes! Will there be great temptations? Yes! Will all of our "life happenings" lead us or try to lead us back to PMO? Yes! But you know how to conquer it with that super long streak! Heck before I joined I likely PMO 10X per month and sometimes more! I used to PMO and then say well I already have so might as well PMO binge the rest of the day or heck week!! But now I hate how it made me feel when I lapsed and I know actually hate how it feels when I look at P subs or edge! NOT ME NOT NOW NOT AGAIN!

IM me as well if you want and hang in their brother. One of my personal motto's has always been - "The Size of your Success is determined by the Size of your Belief!" Good news is as I journey with you I know how strong your belief is to remove PMO! Hang in there and praying for you!
 

guitar1968

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Thanks @Phineas 808 and @JerryTX - exactly the pep talks I needed right now. I'm back here again today instead of opening a porn site.
I'm going to start with a small goal as suggest by @Phineas 808 - I'm going to go with 7 days. 1 week. See if I can get my head back around the demon. So, today is day 1. Small steps, built on much bigger steps. I'm definitely not discounting my 6 months of (mostly) success. I was a mess before I came here and I rarely missed a day of porn or masturbation and often multiple times a day. I'm not there again, but I have been bad this past week for sure.

1 week. I should be easily able to handle 1 week. Here we go...
 

guiganvoger

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What seems to trigger me the most is time alone without any plans for the day or just plain boredom. I have really had to find ways to keep all my idle time from actually being idle.

One of the flaws I have noticed about that system for me, however, is that I can run out of energy after some time. After a few weeks of keeping yourself as busy as possible it’s hard to not want to relax and take some time for yourself. That can be mentally recuperating but it is also the most vulnerable time for a relapse. I’m definitely not perfect and haven’t cracked the code but that’s what I know so far. It’s a place to start I guess till you can get back on your feet again.
 

guitar1968

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Another day and I'm feeling o.k. today. I'm busy with work and I should actually be working right now, but I think it's very important for me to make sure I come here every day. I do better when this is my focus.

I'm feeling like maybe I can get back to where I was. I know I want sexual release, but not this way. I don't want to stay trapped in this cycle of porn and masturbation. I know that I feel better and do better when I'm away from it. How amazing it is to know that and still let it rule my life. It's power over me is astounding. With that said, I'm on day 2 of my new 7 day goal. I'll try to make sure I post even on Saturday and Sunday to at least report that I made it another day. I need to do this for myself.

Have a great and successful day everyone.
 

Phineas 808

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Awesome, Guitar! You will definitely build on and surpass where you were before.

One little trick I use if I start obsessing about reaching a goal or a certain date is, "I've done this for months before, I can certainly do a week...", whatever little 'tricks' you can tell yourself. It's mostly mental, and we do best if we can 'set it and forget it', and just go about your day.

You are healthy and you got this.
 

guitar1968

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Hi all, I didn't check in yesterday. I had meetings and a lot of work to do. Then when I had my usual hour alone in the afternoon I seriously wanted to look at porn and go for it. I grabbed my guitar instead and played for that hour. It really helped to dissipate the strong urge. I'm feeling o.k. today, but we'll see where that goes. Tomorrow my wife and daughter will be out of the house for several hours. Right now I have plans for music. I'm going to do everything I can to stick to that plan. Make it through the weekend and on to another long streak.

Have a great weekend everyone.
 

Ziggy116

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Great advice. Working out of the private office does help me as well. I use my laptop when I can. Unfortunately, I have a lot of Zoom meetings and it disrupts the whole house when I'm on those calls. But, I can't pull up porn during them either! So, being in online meetings is a big help.
It's very encouraging reading this... And that you are over 4 years and sex is as good as when you were young...I hope I get to that some day.
 

guitar1968

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Happy Monday everyone. So, I'm doing o.k. Still feeling on edge and still peaking a little too much at things that could lead to trouble. However, I haven't had a PMO session since last Monday morning and I set a mini goal for 1 week. I'll call that a success tomorrow and then I'm going to shoot for 2 weeks. Keep the goals small to begin with and see if I can relax my body and get back to a calm place.

I'm struggling a lot with burnout and no motivation in my work. This isn't good. I'm the provider here and I have to keep going. This is my own business which is good in a way, but I don't have any boss looking over me to make sure I'm keeping up with what I need to. I would love to hear of any techniques, books, videos... basically anything that may have helped any of you get back on track and stay focused. I've done the Tony Robbins stuff in the past and other guru types of people, not sure my heart is in that right now, but maybe that is where I need to be.

Anyway, I'm here and I'm still battling and I don't plan on giving up. Thanks for all of your support. Have a great and successful week everyone.
 

JerryTX

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Nice job Guitar. Glad your at 1 week. Not sure if you saw my post but I also had a lapse. We all struggle and we both are so much better than where we started! I am right there with you and started a count over today.

One book I like is by Angela Duckworth - GRIT - The power of passion and perseverance.
 

JerryTX

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@guitar1968 Haven't heard from you in awhile brother and just wanted to say hello. I have been struggling of late as well and starting at Day 1 today. This P demon is tough and the battle is hard. We have come so far and like you I am better off since I started this battle. Hang in there!
 

guitar1968

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Hi all, I'm back. I have to be honest I have gone off the rails a bit. Not totally, but I'm struggling for sure. I've been back to porn and masturbation several times since I last wrote. Probably 4 or 5 times. Not horrible compared to the old days, but I have been struggling to get back to no PMO at all. I haven't since last Tuesday and have barely thought about it, but I am really struggling with wanting sexual connection and having none. I don't see it happening with my wife and I am not in the position to make it happen with someone else. It would just be way too tricky to pull off. Not sure it's the right answer anyway. In this last month that I have been cheating, I have also not been waking up with any morning wood at all. And, most days nothing much going on down there as well. I'm sure it's all connected.

So right now I'm just trying to get myself back to not wanting it and of course not doing it. But I'm dealing with a host of other things like we all are. I wanted to come back and report on what's been going on. I started journaling on my own again because of certain things that just don't belong here. I have to get it out and sometimes just writing even to no one does help.

I'll try to check in more. I have a ton of work to do in December so I might not be back as much as I would like, but I'll do my best. I hope everyone out there is doing well on their journey.

Thanks for checking in @JerryTX, I really appreciate it.
 

JerryTX

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@guitar1968 Great to hear from you. Yes this is a tough journey as you read my post from 2 days ago. Hate that the marriage hasn't improved for you and I know that is tough. Glad your journaling to get those feelings out and hang in there. We both have come a long way and don't let this week of ups and downs let you forget of the success rate you have achieved. Stress, holidays, relationships, loneliness, lack of intimacy, and boredom are triggers for most of us. Hang in there and keep up the fight!
 

CoolBreeze

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Hi all, I'm back. I have to be honest I have gone off the rails a bit. Not totally, but I'm struggling for sure. I've been back to porn and masturbation several times since I last wrote. Probably 4 or 5 times. Not horrible compared to the old days, but I have been struggling to get back to no PMO at all. I haven't since last Tuesday and have barely thought about it, but I am really struggling with wanting sexual connection and having none. I don't see it happening with my wife and I am not in the position to make it happen with someone else. It would just be way too tricky to pull off. Not sure it's the right answer anyway. In this last month that I have been cheating, I have also not been waking up with any morning wood at all. And, most days nothing much going on down there as well. I'm sure it's all connected.

So right now I'm just trying to get myself back to not wanting it and of course not doing it. But I'm dealing with a host of other things like we all are. I wanted to come back and report on what's been going on. I started journaling on my own again because of certain things that just don't belong here. I have to get it out and sometimes just writing even to no one does help.

I'll try to check in more. I have a ton of work to do in December so I might not be back as much as I would like, but I'll do my best. I hope everyone out there is doing well on their journey.

Thanks for checking in @JerryTX, I really appreciate it.
Good to hear from you Guitar
You have always given me words of encouragement through my journey. I know it's rough. The road to recovery is a crooked road and difficult to navigate. You'll make back. Try to be kind to yourself.
Peace and Strength to You Brother.
 

Phineas 808

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So right now I'm just trying to get myself back to not wanting it and of course not doing it.

Good to see you, Guitar! I've been keeping an eye for your return, and was concerned... Of course, I've had my own struggles of late as well (lapsed 2x in November), but I'm currently in a good place.

The part about 'not wanting it', the lower brain will want it for a while. There's an ambivalence, right? It's almost like you're two different people...? The lower brain is going to scream for dopamine, that's the wanting... And the deeper needs to connect emotionally, sexually, but getting neither, doesn't help... Thankfully you can override or veto the lower brain by dismissing the urges, and focusing on the things that matter to you, your relationships and hobbies, careers, etc....

You are a success story unfolding. Compared to where you were before you started here, you are far along on the journey today! Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and go on to your better self. All the other stuff (marriage, etc) will work itself out as this issue is taken care of. Don't settle for any counterfeit comfort, including some random hook-up, which you know would further complicate things.
 

guitar1968

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Well, I've been away and not doing well. Once you get sucked in it is very hard to stop it again. It's beginning to take up too much time in my life again and I'm feeling the same guilt and grossness already. This sucks. I feel powerless but I know I'm not. I need to wrap my freaking head around this awful addiction and find a way to stay focused.

Sorry for being a bummer. I'm struggling. I'm in a bad place in my relationship. I'm hungry for sex and I don't know how to go about that and that just leads me to porn and masturbation. Then I just feel gross. A little pleasure and then the brain comes back and I hate myself for letting it get the best of me.

Hope everyone else on here is doing better than I am. I'm hoping over Christmas I can get a better grip on this whole thing. With my family home and lots of distraction maybe I'll start feeling better.

Send encouraging thoughts and ideas. I'm open to whatever might work.
 
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