Still no libido (100+ days)

casanova

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Casanova, do you have any medical history with these meds, ( prostate pills, hairloss pills, acne pills, antidepressants)?
I never took any of these medicals. I avoid medicine actually and take care of my healthy minly by doing sports every day, eating and sleeping as good as possible.
 

casanova

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I don't feel attraction towards women like before i got pied, i was also thinking about sex often, now i feel asexual besides few random days... Where my ed disappears and i can feel arousal and desire to have sex, and sex thoughts feel entertaining and arousing. Unfortunately these days don't last more than 2 or 4 days at most. Are you the same?
If I attempt to get an erection I can have it. I've been having MW everyday lately. But I don't feel horny, have no urge or no sex drive. I miss the times when I was horny and thinking about sex all the time. And able to have sex all night long, 3, 4, 5 rounds. :)
And yes, I think we have a similar situation. Except that I'm not even these days you mentioned. I had then after 65 days hard mode (no P, no M, no O). But then i had sex, and it felt like a relapse, felt like returning to day zero. I'm right now 42 days without O, practicing sports everyday day, sleeping well etc. I hope to start feeling my libido back in 2-3 weeks, like it happened on my first hardmode streak. Have you been on hardmode as well?
 

casanova

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About long refractory period: since I started mt reboot I had sex only once. It was around 70 days hardmode. I was horny, had a spectacular sex and actually after half an hour I was hard again (but haven't had sex again).

On the day after I woke up with MW abd thought I was cured. But righr after it felt like day zero, sadly.

I'm 43 days hardmode again now. If I touch myself I feel pleasure, yes. But I had severe flatlines with dead penis etc and was terrible. Now is way better. I hope to feel horny again in 2-3 weeks but this time rewire properly with sex everyday without O.
 

casanova

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Yes, I've checked everything and all my levels were quite healthy. I just had a lack of Vitamin D, but it's solved since months.
I'm also supplementing with Zinc, B12. Practicing sports every day. Physically I'm better than ever actually, it's just my brain that isn't wired anymore to real women.
 

casanova

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Day 145 without PMO, day 44 without O Yesterday and today I woke up without MW. I'm feeling impatient and choleric too, aggressive. Which is strange, I'm not a choleric person. But today I wish I could break some stuff or fight with someone.
 

Lost36

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Obrigado, o mesmo para você!

Dia 143 sem P (dia 42 sem O). Ontem fiquei na internet até tarde da noite e hoje pela primeira vez em alguns dias acordei sem MW. Ainda zero libido durante o dia, mas sem fadiga, depressão ou qualquer coisa. Sentindo-se bem. Estou me perguntando se a internet atrasa o processo de reinicialização / reconfiguração. De qualquer forma pratiquei exercícios hoje, espero ter uma melhora mais significativa antes do final do mês. Eu quero minha libido de volta!
Não sou ninguém pra falar, porque estou no dia 0, mas o que é o oposto do PMO, sexo! você fechou o caminho do PMO, e você vai ter que abrir o caminho do sexo .... jogar futebol, ginástica, ioga. leitura, são bons. mas não são antagonistas do PMO ... posso estar enganado, mas falo isso, cause vejo uns caras com 2 anos in flatline
 

casanova

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playing football, gymnastics, yoga. reading, are good. but they are not antagonists of the PMO ... I may be mistaken, but I say that, cause I see some 2 year old guys in flatline
The process consists in two parts: reboot and rewire. Both are equally important.
I agree with what you say for the rewire part.
But there are many cases of people here who simply can't have an intercourse, they can't achieve an erection to a real person enough to have sex. On those cases it's necessary reboot, have 1-2 months without P, M, and even O at all. Naturally, MW will start happening again, and when the body is ready to sex, then one can spend this energy rewiring to a real person.
I'm rebooting again right now, 45 days without O. My erections are getting much better, and MW consistent. Soon I'll start having sex often again, this time still without O. To be able to have sex as often as possible and achieve a succesful rewire after that.
 

otanerferguson

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Hey casanova. Thank you for sharing your story. I just want to let you know you are not alone. I am experiencing this reboot almost exactly in the same way as you. Healthy in every way testable, exercising daily and doing every recommended thing out there. I felt fixed on day 38, I had sex then without orgasm and continued to improve after that. On day 52 I had very pleasurable sex with orgasm and a full boner and everything went downhill from there onwards plunging me into an ED episode on day 60 and a flatline ever since, from which I haven't recovered at the 89-day mark. Just like yourself, more than anything, it just ticks me off.

I have trouble accepting the rewiring argument, because when it worked, it worked perfectly, so the body knows what "rewired" looks like already. And if you believe the delta foss b argument that they give you to explain why people relapse, then you would also have permanent delta foss b wiring to real girls in there from your previous successful encounters with women that would work using the exact same mechanism. I also wish there would be some sort of shock therapy to snap out of the lingering sexlessness. I felt hopeful yesterday and today after getting some of the early days physiological changes happening once again and I am with you in the belief that not orgasming for a long long while is the way to go.

The only therapy out there, however, is patience and I commend you for sticking it out. I wish you a swift recovery!!!

Hugo
 
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casanova

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Hey casanova. Thank you for sharing your story. I just want to let you know you are not alone. I am experiencing this reboot almost exactly in the same way as you. Healthy in every way testable, exercising daily and doing every recommended thing out there. I felt fixed on day 38, I had sex then without orgasm and continued to improve after that. On day 52 I had very pleasurable sex with orgasm and a full boner and everything went downhill from there onwards plunging me into an ED episode on day 60 and a flatline ever since, from which I haven't recovered at the 89-day mark. Just like yourself, more than anything, it just ticks me off.

I have trouble accepting the rewiring argument, because when it worked, it worked perfectly, so the body knows what "rewired" looks like already. And if you believe the delta foss b argument that they give you to explain why people relapse, then you would also have permanent delta foss b wiring to real girls in there from your previous successful encounters with women that would work using the exact same mechanism. I also wish there would be some sort of shock therapy to snap out of the lingering sexlessness. I felt hopeful yesterday and today after getting some of the early days physiological changes happening once again and I am with you in the belief that not orgasming for a long long while is the way to go.

The only therapy out there, however, is patience and I commend you for sticking it out. I wish you a swift recovery!!!

Hugo
Hi Hugo, thank you so much for reaching me out. I just have read your entire very well written journal and indeed, our cases are very similar! Man, I'm sure that we will figure out a way to fix ourselves. We are on the right path and I see that we both are 100% commited to this success no matter the price we need to pay for it. It's a matter of time. But I think that are more (and also less) assertive ways to achieve this fix faster and better. Let's keep informing ourselves and following each others journal. You're very welcome to make contact anytime, I'm wishing you lots of luck and strength!!
 

casanova

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Day 148 without PMO, day 47 without O - Hi guys, things are getting better here. For a couple of days I haven't had MW, but it's returning. Yesterday I woke up with 70% erection, and today despite no MW, I just needed to fantasize for a few seconds and in an instant I've felt a 70% erection already.

As you know I'm not in a hurry to have sex. This time I'll allow myself some time to 'recharge'. In some days I feel exactly as if I had 3 PMO sessions in the day before, you know that feeling? That lethargic feeling, brainfog, weakness. I feel like that, but without having PMO since 148 days.

I keep practicing sports regularly: bike, running, sprint run, lifting weights. I'm sleeping well, stay productive. Sadly I'm not socializing much because of the pandemic. But I'm optimistic that at any time I'll start feeling a bit horny again. And then things will start getting more fun, let's see how it goes! Wishing you all an amazing weekend there!
 

casanova

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Day 149 without PMO, day 48 without O - I had my first vivid dream in a while. It was not an erotic one, but I was with three very attractive girls and was fun. I keep lifiting hard weights, running/sprinting, eating healthy, and am also trying this third eye chackra medidation.
 

casanova

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Day 150 without PMO, day 49 without O - holy hell, 150 days since this journey started! But for my positive surprise I've show amazing progress this morning, I'll tell you.

--BEWARE TRIGGER--

On day 148 I was feeling my sack empty. So I've been researching for foods to increase the load and the sex drive. I've found that some porn actors ate a whole celery head on the night before their films, so I did the same. In the last two nights I ate a whole celery head on each, with the hope it would help putting my testicles to work. I have been practicing creative visualization and trying to imagine a healthy and active brain, connected to my testicles and putting them to work. I'm also running/sprinting, sleeping well and reducing significantly my time online. Yesterday I also read one erotic story before sleep, on the hope I could have some erotic dream. I'll keep doing so from now on.

Today I woke up without MW, but then I started touching my wife still on the bed, just feeling her skin, the skin of her leg etc. Suddenly I've got a 90% erection and felt like 'wow!'. To make it short, without effort, this erection lasted for 30 minutes. She was still sleeping, so it was very natural, a solid and consistent erection. I woke up to take a pee, and even without thinking about sex, I needed to pee with a 80% erection. Felt like a teenager. After I've finished, the erection was still there and I've seen my sleepy smile on the mirror. It felt really awesome. Slowly the erection was fading, but I've spent the whole morning with at least 10% erection. And at any moment I touched myself a bit, it would go to 50% right away. My body was really on stand by ready for action. But still I wasn't feel horny or something. In the afternoon I've felt a bit of blue balls though. I'm not with the feeling anymore my sack is empty. It feels now that indeed, it's a bit more charged. Maybe the celery? The sprints? I'll keep with everything.

Creative visualization has proven efficiency even on cancer treatment. Is a direct communication with the body, giving leads of what the body should do. So I'll keep with that as well, will not hurt. I started two days ago, and have been showing consistently improvement since them.

I think that in one week from now, things should start to get fun. Really hoping to start feeling horny soon, let's see!
 

ser

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HI Guys,

I am in the same situation as you guys here. But I am in it from a few good years by now. I did 3 month without PMO a few years ago and still I didn't get MW,i got some erections if I fantasized but after that I felt like day 0 again. So I start having sex,second day I was horny but after that day it felt like day 0 again.

So till today, I am the same like when I started. I had some relapses but still...So I begun having doubts about this.

I understand rebooting...but Rewiring...its tricky. Why?

Last months I was on hard mode for 5 weeks' got some MW 70% some times. But 2 time I got MW 110%,this woodies like when I was 16,couldnt pee for 30 minutes. I thought I was cured but NO.
The moment I started fantasizing I got erect 100% for a few times but then,Flatline again. Like day 0 again.
I was sometimes waking on the streets and looking to girls and got erect 80%. If I have O,i start again in day 0.

So something doesn't work as it should, but what?

Shaolin Monks lives in total abstinence,Tibetan monks same. why they don't get blue balls?
Because the body is getting use to it! And the production stops.

Do intermittent Fasting,you will start burning some fat in the beginning. Until the body get use to it and adapt.
So what can we do?

Rewiring? For what? When we are born, we are wired already and get erections. And we didn't see anything or think something.

Maybe Reboothing kills our horniness. Maybe we should start having as much sex as we can. Taking Chineess cocktails for erections and keep going till we get rewired the good way.

We have to change our paradigm thinking. From PMO to sex O. And this we do it by practice. How we got FUCKED UP anyway?
By wiring/practicing PMO,yes? Are you with me? We got fucked up by practicing PMO everyday for 3 or 4 times, for years.

Or we are changing our Paradigm with what we want to do,SEX. Or we can changing our Paradigm by rebooting(shutting the factory) for life. Then we better go with the Shaolins.

Take a look at NEUROGENESIS and Neuroplasticity and Synaptogenesis. Intermittent Fasting boost Neurogenesis and Neuroplasticity by boosting the production of a protein BDNF by 400%. Think about that! Neurotrackerx.com. Can fasting get your brain into shape?

Only when you start doing and thinking something you are changing your brain. And repeating it.

So maybe we need Rebooting for a period but after we better start practicing sex. If not maybe you will rebooting for your whole life.

Any thoughts ?
 

ser

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The big question is 'HOW LONG?''

How long we have to reboot? How can we know where we are on our journey with rebooting?
The technology is here, all this brain scans... We really have to find out where we are and how long we need to do it.

I had set goals for 120 days, 60 days,... many times with no real change, apart from a few days of sex O.

If MWoods are the signs of healthy Rewiring then we should do rebooting till we get MWs.

We born having erections,so MWs are in are ''DNA''. If we properly reboot we should get Rewired as a side effect. Because when we started with PMO we developed new neural connections. The moment you don't repeat what you have learned you forget it. So if we stay enough without PMO we should get to our Old program that we born with it9having MWs).

And 120 days of Hardmode its impossible in a modern society. You walk on the street and you see hot bimbos,that means you get stimulated. Here I feel the dopamine rush in my brain and the need to O. Or I don't feel anything, like I am asexual. This mean I am not completely Rebooted.

So how long? 1 year? For hard mode you should go in Myamar or Nepal to some meditation centers . There is no stimulation.

PMO from 14 to 22 year. So how can you find out how long you need to properly Reboot???

Now I will stay still and complete again 120 day without PMO. then I start to have sex with O 4 to 5 time per week, for 2 month(like a normal sexual life). I will use pills if I need.
If there is no real Rewiring/Rebooting. Then I will retreat to Monasteries for a year.

Its my dick and I want it back. I will give up everything and go. Life without normal sex is not fun,specially when we are still young.
 

casanova

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Hi Ser, I think that we don't have many options other than go through this journey getting the answers only on the way.

Yesterday I completed 150 days without PMO, 49 days without O at all. Today it's 50 days without O and I know that sadly it's maybe not even half way through.

I wish you find the best path for you!
 

casanova

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Day 152 without P, day 51 without O - Again I woke up without MW but within a few seconds fantasizing I've got a 90% erection. I kept fantasizing and softly touching myself and kept the erection for 30 mins. When I stopped, the erection slowly fade away. After it was gone, I started fantasizing and touching myself again and within a minute I had another 80% erection. I consider it as progress, it feels good that my body is prompt reacting at least in the early morning.


On a daily basis I keep running/sprinting, meditating, exercising creative visualization, lifting weigths, eating well and including lots of celery on my diet. I am suplementing with B12, zinc, vitamin D and am reducing significantly my online time. During my entire journey I havent had alcohol, any drug and not even coffee.

The plan is to continue healthy "recharging" till I start feeling horny during the day, then I will focus on a successful rewire divide in two parts: rewire without O and then rewire with O. Crossed fingers that it will happen in June. Till then is about patience, keeping the discipline and the faith.

Wishing you all a greay day there!
 

ser

Member
Some people are saying that we need 8 months for a good Reboot and 8 months more to get to normal levels of dopamine when having sex.

So...good luck.
 

casanova

Member
Day 156 without P, day 55 without O - hi everyone, how have you been doing? As you can see I'm without P since Christmas, and without any O for almost two months. I keep making progress. This week I've been sick, with a cold. Haven't practiced sports for that reason. But what amazed me was the fact that still I have slept every night extremely well, had vivid dreams every night as well (I don't remember the last time I had vivid dreams for 4 nights in a row), and the best: I'm waking up with such solid morning woods! Like between 90-95% erection, and lasting long, like 20-30 minutes! It feels so good. I stay in the bed and can't avoid fantasizing a bit and definitely on that moments I feel very horny.

During the day is different, I'm not feeling horny at all yet. But still, I'm feeling 'it's coming soon'. On my first streak hard mode, I remember that on day 58 I had a dead dick still, and suddenly three days later I was already feeling horny for my wife. On this new streak I'm on day 55 hard mode, so let's see, I'm very optimistic that in June we'll have some exciting news happening, literally.

Awesome news: next week I'll be vaccinated! So I will be more often 'out there', maybe vacations even, some travels. I want to receive some massages, maybe some nuru ones following the tip of our @otanerferguson. Let's see how things will be, but it feels like June will bring this journey to another level!
 

casanova

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DAY 165 without P, day 64 without O - Hi everyone! The last ten days were pretty similar. "Still no libido" but getting consistent MW, sometimes random erections etc. The other day I got a 100% MW, it felt so good. Lately I'm getting 50-60% though. I'm getting more and more vivid dreams by the way. Looking forward to start having some hot ones, till now they've been boring haha!

Could it be that zero libido comes from your over exercising? Sound like you workout a lot.
I don't think I workout a lot. I workout often but still i don't reach overtraining. My sessions are between 20 to 40 mins only. They usually leads me to better MW, so definitely the low libido don't come there. It came from porn, 100% sure. A proof is that when quitting porn I head the dead penis symptom, after 10 days or so. It only happens to damaged brains due to porn.
 
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