Is it possible to fap so much, that you can induce flatline onto yourself without realizing?

scorpion1386

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Yes, me too, reality hit me me hard until i became impotent after burning my dopamine sensors with overmasturbation and edging to porn. Until i realized one day that I can't get very hard and my erection die in seconds if i stoo touching, since then i became aware that i didn't have any real libido for a long while but i didn't realize it and kept pmo.

Now i am 70+ 200 days hard mode, i am barely half recovered.

Have you noticed any mental or physical improvements?
 

Fappy

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Yes? isnt that why the flatline occurs? from incessent jerking to porn, and i mean incessent, the dopamine sensors get fucked something savage! after that comes the flatline, thank BALLS. if not for that flatline youd be in even more trouble - its good to let your cock die for a while, show it whos boss.
 

scorpion1386

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Mental? Not really, i feel like going through withdrawals, most days i have severe anxiety, depression and no motivation for life or anything. I stay in bed and browse internet in my phone all day.

But there are few good days, where my anxiety is minimal, i feel joy in life and no anhedonia, then i can feel motivation and work on some hobbies and on myself.

Unfortunately these days are minimal and short lasting.

Physically, no difference at all, i still have severe pied, but my baseline is better than when i started, but it's not stable as i woukd still have days where i feel recovered, and days where i feel like i am day 1.

Bad days are 80% of the time. So once a month i would go through 2 days without any pied symptoms. And some other days i would feel some signs of recovery.

Wet dreams are very frequent and i hate them. I don't think they're helpful at all.they give me flatline symptoms.

That's scary that you say you're 200 days with minimal improvements...ugh.
 

scorpion1386

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Yes? isnt that why the flatline occurs? from incessent jerking to porn, and i mean incessent, the dopamine sensors get fucked something savage! after that comes the flatline, thank BALLS. if not for that flatline youd be in even more trouble - its good to let your cock die for a while, show it whos boss.

I was prone masturbating and then after my session within a day, my dick kind of shriveled up. Hope that porn is the cause.
 

scorpion1386

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You're here for 5 years. Do you still have pied? Aren't you committed to nofap?

I have had trouble commiting. I do still have PIED. I tried to kill myself multiple times over it. It's been difficult. Don't ask me more questions about it. Thanks.
 
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scorpion1386

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sounds like PIED flatlining to me

I agree. It's weird though, my story in general because you never really see stories about PIED flatlining coming from masturbation to porn, it's almost always the typical story of a flatline happening during a NoFap streak.
 

scorpion1386

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During 7 months nofap, i can tell you i am slightly better, but the recovery is non linear, 1 step forward, 3 steps back. I would feel recovered some days, then flatline again to a much worse state similar to when i discover my pied. Then I feel better again for few days. Sometimes my recovery is in the middle.


Do you also notice that you have better sexual function during the morning and first half of the day?

No improved sexual function at all. Dick is dead 24/7. It's like a shriveled up raisin like knob on my pelvis. It's scary. Oh and I did have two standing semi erections around an individual back in 2017 (after this apparent flatlined was induced on me). Something works down there. Something!

I do hope these are definitely porn induced symptoms?
 

scorpion1386

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Probably yes, probably no. I have to admit that i have used ssri in the past for only 1 month, and it happens that i used ssri 2 months before i got pied. The thing what makes me hopeful that my case is not pssd is because there many here whom i asked and they never used ssri/accutane/finasteride but they share the same symptoms as me. Also i got the flatline 2 months after i stop the ssri. It's a 50/50 situation, i try to stay hopeful and not lose it, because sometimes i feel desperation, anger, regret and i feel mentally fucked up, because i lost one of the best feelings a human is able to feel.

Let me ask you, i read that you used ssri in the past, did you get the flatline and shriveled penis before or after using ssri?
Also what confused me is you mention the presence of libido and arousal in your case, which is strange, because without libido, and without arousal, I don't get hard, but sometimes i leak precum which makes me think my brain got aroused but i didn't feel the pleasure, and the only physical response was precum...

Whatever our case, it's not permanent i believe, because i have these days of recovery, albeit being short lasting, and leaves me with more frustration and anger when i flatline again because i got a taste of what i have been missing for 1 and a half years now.

After I used SSRI, but I stopped SSRI a long time before I got the E.D. flatline thing I have now. I am thinking I have a porn induced issue because I was fapping a LOT before my flatline happened. How do I know this? I was edging very frequently and downloaded a dating app. I was on it all the time.
 

scorpion1386

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How much time between when you stopped ssri and you got the flatline?

It seems very similar to what happened to me, it all started because of the stupid quarantine, i got addicted to a live cam site, and i would edge a dozen of times switching between multiple tabs of live girls, full of excitement, anticipation.... Waiting for someone to tip these girls, you know the drill... And holding my orgasm for 1 hour to 1 and a half hours. Shortly after things went bad. I believe i have fried my dopamine receptors which were already half fried from excessive past pmo and gaming addiction. Didn't you notice that before the flatline you felt some type of light anhedonia, low motivation, anxiety and brain fog?

I believe these were signs of my body begging me to stop, only if knew porn was the issue, but i just pmoed more and more to cope with life.

I honestly do not remember. It's been 5 years since I took the SSRI in 2016. I really and highly doubt it was the result of SSRI use.
 

scorpion1386

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And I didn't notice that before the flatline, I felt any type of anhedonia or low motivation and anxiety. That and the flatline all hit me at once after PMOing one day prone.
 

scorpion1386

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The only way out of it is no porn and no orgasm for at least 1 year. I believe orgasming slows and halts down recovery pace of severe pied. And porn does much worse.

You have to never give up to the voices in your head which convince you that it's ok.

When i first started my streak, i was dead. It took 6 months no porn no orgasm to somehow have a better baseline and feel some good days. Now i am flatlining again as like day 1, when the last 2 weeks i had 5 days where i felt pretty much 80% recovered and thoughts aroused me and made me hard.

That's what I need to do. I'm pretty much no orgasm for about a week now? I still have occasionally looked at images or aroused myself and need to stop/limit that, but I do feel better today so far than I did last week. It's a work in progress.
 
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I agree. It's weird though, my story in general because you never really see stories about PIED flatlining coming from masturbation to porn, it's almost always the typical story of a flatline happening during a NoFap streak.
i am identical to this since may. scary to think it’s probably irreversible. i’m kind of coming to terms with the fact that i may be permanently asexual, which isn’t altogether awful. just challenging to accept a new sexual identity. many people are asexual and live perfectly fulfilling lives.
 
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i am identical to this since may. scary to think it’s probably irreversible. i’m kind of coming to terms with the fact that i may be permanently asexual, which isn’t altogether awful. just challenging to accept a new sexual identity. many people are asexual and live perfectly fulfilling lives.
i used only soft core stuff and edging to dating apps too. almost identical. shame i never came across you sooner and i might have been salvaged lmao.
 

otanerferguson

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Throughout my adult life waaaay before developing the PIED that led me to reboot, I used to refer to my orgasms as "the fat lady singing" because after I was done there were no second times. My girls could orgasm all they wanted but once I did, that was it for the day.

Knowing now, after a successful one year reboot, that the refractory period is about 10 to 15 minutes after orgasm and one can have may orgasms a day with breaks, I understand that from static porn and overmasturbation (before high speed tube sites) I was experiencing mini flatlines that lasted about 24 hours back then. It also took me forever to cum. Who knew porn did all that shit. I didn't even suspect it.

Anyway, after the reboot you will discover a new world of sex. I did at 40 years old, imagine that.
 
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No improved sexual function at all. Dick is dead 24/7. It's like a shriveled up raisin like knob on my pelvis. It's scary. Oh and I did have two standing semi erections around an individual back in 2017 (after this apparent flatlined was induced on me). Something works down there. Something!

I do hope these are definitely porn induced symptoms?
also, have you gotten any morning wood or ANY spontaneous erections in last five years?
 
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