Womens perspective

Cristina

New Member
I am a new member.
after 4 g of marriage
my husband admitted that he has been watching pornography since childhood.
it overwhelmed me. I don't know how to accept that.

how do you other women deal with that?

she is not the person I married.
and I wonder who he is?
what level was he at?
should i dig through it?

how to live happily ever after?
since he confessed to me,
I don't know what I can believe and what I can't.

addict.
I really don't know what to do next ...

are there any other women who would share their feelings with me?

my husband is an addict.
 

otanerferguson

Active Member
I hope you find some comfort and understanding in this forum and are able to at least give your husband the benefit of the doubt. I know it's no excuse, but please understand that, while porn is an addiction and it certainly operates on your reward system as much as some of the hardest drugs, it operates a little different for a lot of us.

I don't know your husband's case, but understand that porn is everywhere and it is a big part of every teenager's sexual awakening just because of the ease of access. In a lot of cases it is not like alcohol, but think of it more like putting lots of sugar in your coffee every day and drinking many cups a day. A lot of people do that, nothing wrong with that, right? However, years later they just aren't able to make the connection when the doctor says "diabetes". That's how masturbating to porn is/was for a lot of us. Something everyone does everyday, out of habit, and we never thought it was bad and instead of diabetes, it would give us erectile dysfunction. It didn't even have anything to do with the kind of sex he would have with you. It was compartmentalized as a different thing in our brains. As a man, it is so ubiquitous and persistent that one wouldn't even consider it cheating. It was practice to get better at sex in our minds. And, again, it's no excuse, but everyone is doing it, almost literally everyone. It's even a social thing among guys. Just ask around, any guy's male friends WhatsApp group chat media section is filled with tons of news weather girls hacked phone videos, naked challenges, girl "packs", bouncing boobs, camgirl downloads, instasluts, and just tons of porn memes that get forwarded around.

Until one day, it shows its ugly face and you are unable to connect with your partner or even have an erection. It's done terrible things to your neural pathways. Your brain is fried... and so is your relationship.

Just like with the sugary drinks and diabetes further down the line, if we had known that masturbating to porn would be so detrimental for a healthy sexuality, a lot of us wouldn't have even thought of doing it. Understand that for us, this wasn't related to you as a woman, it was just something one grew up doing. And I know that is an insensitive thing to say (I know now) and that you also deserve some sort of retribution and redemption for all that you've suffered from this, but that's the reality of this thing.

Of course, those of us who have gone through a reboot know how shitty it is, not only for ourselves, because of the anguish of not being able to have an erection, but for our partners who weren't able to feel loved, desired, lusted over, connected.

All this to say that there is a kind of rebooter for whom porn is not like being a heroin addict. It's just some bad habit we picked up along the way, we didn't know it was bad for everyone involved and are able to quit cold turkey and move on once they understand about porn's ill effects. I know, an addiction is an addiction, but the mind frame is different.

On the other hand, there is also the other kind, who truly struggles with it like gambling, heroin, or alcohol. Those who truly suffer the need to go watch again and again and again, who feel shame afterwards, who waste fortunes to procure it for themselves, who start over every day, and who just can't walk away. That is a different story. That is a group that needs love, understanding, psychological and sometimes even psychiatric tools, and professional help.

I sincerely hope that your husband belongs to the first group and if he's willing, he will find a ton of resources here and perhaps at Your Brain on Porn to reboot and leave porn behind. Give him the benefit of the doubt. Understand that he wasn't cheating on you, he was just kidding himself. If you are able, it truly helps a lot to talk it over and go through the reboot as a couple, judgments aside. You can reach a different place together and it will be great for the both of you.

I know you asked for a woman's perspective, and I am a guy, but perhaps there's something in these words that can help you cope. I went through my reboot with the help and understanding of my loving wife and I can tell you it made us stronger as a couple and more in love with each other. There were some shitty challenges for the both of us along the way, yes, but the rewards were, and still are, bigger.

Much love.
 
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Cristina

New Member
Hope so..
Thank you for your time and writing...

What you man's whant to hear from a whomen?

what kind of support do you need?

what specifically should a woman do?

On a daily basis??

How to get my husband to talk more??
 

k-fff

Well-Known Member
Hope so..
Thank you for your time and writing...

What you man's whant to hear from a whomen?

what kind of support do you need?

what specifically should a woman do?

On a daily basis??

How to get my husband to talk more??
I think the most important thing for your sanity is to have boundaries with him. He needs to be honest with you if he relapses or has other issues and he *needs* to be committed to changing. You can be supportive, but if he doesn't do what's necessary to change, don't sacrifice yourself for him. I would also like to tell you p use for pretty much all of us was shoved on us and has become an ingrained habit/addiction that we didn't have any idea would happen. P is everywhere and constantly promoted and essentially force fed to young boys if you look at how oversexualized everything is now.

I think some of the best things you can do for your partner is take away his access. Block internet on his phone get covenant eyes on all devices. I think cutting away access is so important because for many of us we are in autopilot mode when we get triggered and we don't even realize what we are doing until we are already at a site. if he is unwilling to be monitored like that, then that is a problem. When his access is cut off, he really needs to figure out why he is using p and address those underlying reasons.. The relationship needs to be completely transparent if he is including you in this. Lying is the worst thing. If he doesn't talk to you or lies, it is because of shame, but I think you telling him that any lying is really damaging would help him opening up. But getting someone to talk about this requires a lot of patience and understanding.

I would also say p isn't about you or anything wrong with you from a sexual standpoint. Because for many guys even if they had x p star in their room completely willing etc, they would not be able to get it up and it's because actual p use destroys healthy sexual functions and it isn't about real sex; it's about flushing your brain with incredibly high amounts of dopamine and becoming addicted to that "high".
 

Gracie

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Staff member
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I am the wife of a former PA. Our walk is tough and we ask many questions of ourselves. Are we enough, were we ever enough, what do I need to change. Then who can I talk to? It is tough! It takes time. The thing that most helped was the book Love You, Hate the Porn by Mark Chamberlain and Geoff Steurer. We both read it. We marked what stood out to us for the other to see. Mark has a blog with great things for both PA and partner. It is here http://markchamberlainphd.blogspot.com/ Good stuff!
 

addictuk

New Member
New joiner on this forum and saw this post as I feel for my wife and wanted to get a perspective from a woman's point of view. I love my wife so much but I have to admit that I have an issue. I have always thought that I cannot classify myself as a porn addict as I can spend days or weeks without it but despite of me having long periods of "sobriety" I always find myself falling back into the pit again, so I am clearly one. Despite of how hard it is for me to accept that. Lately, my wife discovered that I was looking for porn on some social media app. What hurt her the most is that I was messaging other female women. The porn did not seem to concern her the most, but I know how she is hurt as it is pure betrayal. understand how she feel and she is right to feel that way. I have been fighting this P habit since I was a teenager. I managed to somewhat keep it under control with my faith but when I feel low, lonely, ashamed or rejected, It is my coping mechanism. I am getting help from a group called 180 recovery and we meet weekly online and keep ourselves accountable but I still feel hopeless on how damaging this habit has been on my family and myself after I blew up a previous relationship due to that. She is a lovely woman and I love her so much, she does not deserve this. She threatened to leave me due to her discovery and I feel disarmed. I am committed to change but I always see this habit like a monster trying to devour my life and everything good in it. I feel for you women who go through this. I have two young boys and I am hoping that they won't fall into that nasty habit in a hyper-sexualised world. Even asking her to be accountable for my own habit put a weight on her shoulder which she does not need giving how hard life is on other fronts (family, work etc...). I will try that resource from Mark Chamberlain and suggest it to her. I think having her to accept the man I am is still rough for her at the moment. I have often used P as an excuse for our lack of intimacy but I have to realise that I am the problem. Couples go through issues, but using P as a way out is never acceptable. I'd like to hear from other women on what best I can do to support her and make her feel less rejected, hurt and bruised and help on the healing journey.
 
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Betrayed

Member
New joiner on this forum and saw this post as I feel for my wife and wanted to get a perspective from a woman's point of view. I love my wife so much but I have to admit that I have an issue. I have always thought that I cannot classify myself as a porn addict as I can spend days or weeks without it but despite of me having long periods of "sobriety" I always find myself falling back into the pit again, so I am clearly one. Despite of how hard it is for me to accept that. Lately, my wife discovered that I was looking for porn on some social media app. What hurt her the most is that I was messaging other female women. The porn did not seem to concern her the most, but I know how she is hurt as it is pure betrayal. understand how she feel and she is right to feel that way. I have been fighting this P habit since I was a teenager. I managed to somewhat keep it under control with my faith but when I feel low, lonely, ashamed or rejected, It is my coping mechanism. I am getting help from a group called 180 recovery and we meet weekly online and keep ourselves accountable but I still feel hopeless on how damaging this habit has been on my family and myself after I blew up a previous relationship due to that. She is a lovely woman and I love her so much, she does not deserve this. She threatened to leave me due to her discovery and I feel disarmed. I am committed to change but I always see this habit like a monster trying to devour my life and everything good in it. I feel for you women who go through this. I have two young boys and I am hoping that they won't fall into that nasty habit in a hyper-sexualised world. Even asking her to be accountable for my own habit put a weight on her shoulder which she does not need giving how hard life is on other fronts (family, work etc...). I will try that resource from Mark Chamberlain and suggest it to her. I think having her to accept the man I am is still rough for her at the moment. I have often used P as an excuse for our lack of intimacy but I have to realise that I am the problem. Couples go through issues, but using P as a way out is never acceptable. I'd like to hear from other women on what best I can do to support her and make her feel less rejected, hurt and bruised and help on the healing journey.
In every way possible show her you are not going back to it. Give her your phone whenever you can. Let her know she can look at it whenever she wants. Keep telling her you love her..
 

addictuk

New Member
In every way possible show her you are not going back to it. Give her your phone whenever you can. Let her know she can look at it whenever she wants. Keep telling her you love her..
Thank you this is super useful. We are going through counselling soon. She asked for us to sleep in separate beds. It has now been almost two weeks and I am loosing patience from sleeping away from her. How long do you think we should remain like this?
 

Betrayed

Member
Thank you this is super useful. We are going through counselling soon. She asked for us to sleep in separate beds. It has now been almost two weeks and I am loosing patience from sleeping away from her. How long do you think we should remain like this?
Honestly I do not have an answer to that we started sleeping separate about a week ago. I just feel safer that way knowing he isn’t leaving my side to go do it. I know he may still be doing it but at least I’m not waking up to it :(. Give her time. She will know when it’s right to be back in the same room.
 

Sammyjo

Active Member
Thank you this is super useful. We are going through counselling soon. She asked for us to sleep in separate beds. It has now been almost two weeks and I am loosing patience from sleeping away from her. How long do you think we should remain like this?
Every woman is going to handle this different. I strongly recommend asking her if she is willing to talk about it. If she is willing to talk you will have a better understanding of how long you need to be patient...AND she might not have an answer for you, and if she is not willing to talk about it respect it but let her know you are willing to discuss anything at any time if/when she is ready.

I crawled out of bed the first night after I found out because I was either going to bawl or start breaking things (not my typical way of handling stress)...I couldn't shut my mind off with him in bed next to me. After that I needed to be next to him.
 

Sammyjo

Active Member
I am a new member.
after 4 g of marriage
my husband admitted that he has been watching pornography since childhood.
it overwhelmed me. I don't know how to accept that.

how do you other women deal with that?

she is not the person I married.
and I wonder who he is?
what level was he at?
should i dig through it?

how to live happily ever after?
since he confessed to me,
I don't know what I can believe and what I can't.

addict.
I really don't know what to do next ...

are there any other women who would share their feelings with me?

my husband is an addict.
Hi Christina,

I am new here too. Did you find out or did he confess?
 
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