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GBS

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1,305 days sober
67 days no MO

Want my views on a 67 days full on monk mode? It’s a test for myself. I had been slipping and wanted to see if I can do the 90 again. At 30 it gets tricky, then it gets a little easier if you just tell yourself that it’s not a fight, it’s a good habit. Now at 67 days it feels a bit more like a fight again, but I am able to stay calm and resist. I have this sneaky feeling Mrs GBS could be about to move on which makes the abstinence easier actually, but I have had these sneaky suspicions before and the fruit did not appear. Having faith and staying calm and serene. Stay clean gents.
 

ts34

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1,306 days is a fantastic achievement. I'm on day 5 currently and I'm very much trying to look at it the way alcoholics and drug users dp, which is simply to get through TODAY and worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Best wishes, Brother.
 

GBS

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1,306 days is a fantastic achievement. I'm on day 5 currently and I'm very much trying to look at it the way alcoholics and drug users dp, which is simply to get through TODAY and worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Best wishes, Brother.
Cheers @ts34 - I am not honestly sure why I count the days anymore. This journey is about learning new good habits and (sort of) laughing at the old me. One day at a time is a good motto. Be kind to yourself, man. You’ve got this.
 

GBS

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1,308 days sober
70 days no MO

I can’t recall the number of times we’ve debated whether counting days is a good idea. I can recall my therapist advised against. And it seems to be setting up something to knock down. Also it sort of gives porn a place in my life, where honestly it has gone. And yet here I am still doing it. It’s sort of a daily discipline and would feel almost asking for trouble if I stopped. Probably carry on then…..🤷
 

Phineas 808

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Hi, @GBS.

I used to think of counting days as a kind of training wheels, when I really needed the encouragement or focus when trying to quit.

If it continues to help you, keep counting.

However, at this point, I would say it's an identity thing. You're no longer an addict, or- you're no longer addicted or habituated to the former behaviors. Continuing to count only keeps you tethered to an old identity. It's like a resurrected man holding on to graveclothes, or a former blind man (who now sees) holding on to his walking staff.

Certain things need to be seriously looked at as to the philosophy you hold to surrounding this issue. Are you an addict? What is an addict? Is it an incurable disease that you'll always have? Are you not now free? Is not freedom per your will? Or, are you at the mercy of unseen whims and wisps that drive you to actions over which you have no control? Or, are you just inherently devious, that, no matter how long you're 'sober', you can't be trusted around sexual stimuli, that if seen, you'll be locked into the uncontrollable force that is your shadow-self?

Counting lends toward black-and-white thinking, an all-or-nothing approach that doesn't reflect the true zig-zag path to freedom. Thankfully, you're beyond the earlier phases when a lapse seemed all but inevitable. Now- God forbid- you'd have to go cross-grain against your new established habits of freedom in order to 'lapse'. In other words, I think you can trust yourself enough not to 'hold your own hand' in terms of counting.
 

GBS

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I get this. I'll probably get to two years and call it good as far as counting goes. But who knows... it has become a habit. :cool:
Thanks @Blondie - it’s a habit for sure. Time to think on it….
If it continues to help you, keep counting.
Thanks @Phineas 808 - you say a lot more of course. I truly am not tethered to the old me. I like your analogies, though. As for discussing the ‘am I, or was I, an addict?’ I think I can say I was but I still feel like I always had some control so perhaps not a classic addict. I am free now so I don’t need to count. BUT I still do….hmmm. I do thank you for your words which I think I agree with by and large.

It’s entirely possible that I need my daily (or let’s say 4 times a week) check in because it’s a habit and it got me to where I am, so keep checking in seems a good habit. And if one does check in…_what does one say if you’re not giving your numbers. The answer to that ludicrously rhetorical question is - whatever you want….don’t be lazy. Thanks brain.

So I may stop the days. I started in March 2022 so that’s 3 and a half years ago (and about a month).

Maybe I will keep the no MO number going….it’s 71

Cheers gents
 

Phineas 808

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You got this, GBS, whichever way you go.

It takes courage for us to tackle what was so habitual (if not an addiction) to begin with. You did, and you are reaping the benefits. You're now a different person than you were 3.5 years ago. Maybe have a private ceremony, where you 'burn the graveclothes' of counting, and just embrace that person you are now- free! I'm excited for you, and I know that you'll continue to be a valuable asset here, in your 4-day check-ins, to be of help to the ones still struggling, and to of course, have a place to express your own struggles and victories.

Best wishes and congratulations!
 

GBS

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It takes courage for us to tackle what was so habitual (if not an addiction) to begin with. You did, and you are reaping the benefits. You're now a different person than you were 3.5 years ago. Maybe have a private ceremony, where you 'burn the graveclothes' of counting, and just embrace that person you are now- free! I'm excited for you, and I know that you'll continue to be a valuable asset here, in your 4-day check-ins, to be of help to the ones still struggling, and to of course, have a place to express your own struggles and victories.
Cheers Phinners - going to say goodbye to the (slightly obsessive) counting, but keeping my monk mode counter going because that’s nearing my record. Currently 73 days no MO.
 

GBS

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Sorry not been here but last week was just horrific as our second dog had to be put down. I am literally inconsolable. I don’t know what to do. We have lost our two dogs in the space of 6 weeks. Don’t know how much more of this I can take.

84 days no MO
 

ts34

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Sorry not been here but last week was just horrific as our second dog had to be put down. I am literally inconsolable. I don’t know what to do. We have lost our two dogs in the space of 6 weeks. Don’t know how much more of this I can take.

84 days no MO
I'm so, so sorry for your loss GBS. I have been there before and it is absolutely heartbreaking. What I will say though is that I genuinely believe that you will see your beautiful dogs again when it's your time. They will be waiting for you. Chin up, mate.
 

Blondie

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I'm so sorry to hear this, @GBS. I often think about the time when I'll have to do this myself, and I shudder just thinking about it.

I'll be thinking about you guys.
 
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