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First_step_thousand_miles

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Glad to hear you're all clean. I've had one of those once way back in the day, I too thought it was something bad. In hindsight I think I got it from wacking off all the time and using lotion that clogged the pores up. :cool: Fuck it, just ONE more thing!

Stay clean and always wear a rain jacket.
Man 100%! Yeah I've never, ever had unprotected sex but it feels weird to ask to wrap it up for oral haha. Maybe people do wear condoms for oral too, but I guess that feels like a weird ask. Anyway more reason to find a LT partner so you don't have to worry about stuff like this!

Medical science has come such a long way but feels like we've had so many diseases that we now say 'oh we have treatment for it to minimize the issue but we can't cure it.' Better than nothing for sure, but I wish / hope there will be cures for all this wacky stuff soon. Anyway, this kind of scare really puts life in perspective.
 

Blondie

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First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 351-- Just checking in. Mood's been a little funky lately, I feel like I'm getting waves of low moods. Going to redouble my exercise and give extra priority to sleep. Of course going to hang out with friends & keep up as that's been the biggest factor really keeping me in a good head-space when I went through some mental health challenges a couple years ago. Staying on my supplements as well religiously (fish oil, magnesium, etc which are all good for mental health)

Otherwise I had a sex dream a few nights ago and woke up this morning with a pretty strong boner that didn't go away for a while. Let's keep moving forward fellas
 

Blondie

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Mood's been a little funky lately, I feel like I'm getting waves of low moods. Going to redouble my exercise and give extra priority to sleep.
I've had to learn that over and over again, how important sleep is to my mood and everyday existence.
Of course going to hang out with friends & keep up as that's been the biggest factor really keeping me in a good head-space when I went through some mental health challenges a couple years ago.
This is good.

You're looking good @First_step_thousand_miles. 👍
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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I've had to learn that over and over again, how important sleep is to my mood and everyday existence.

This is good.

You're looking good @First_step_thousand_miles. 👍
Agreed sir, getting 7-8 solid hours of sleep (8 ideally) feels absolutely incredible. My only struggle here is I'm a night owl and I really come alive at this period -- whether its for just even reading or watching TV, just love it. But in the real world work starts at 9 or earlier! So just gotta be disciplined and go to bed by 11-11:30pm. Sleep is king
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Ugh had a terrible MO session, not sure why. Guess I'm pretty stressed about stuff so that could be a big factor. Dunno, might try no MO at some point again though that's gonna take some motivation
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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What made it terrible? Binge? Fantasies you preferred not to have? Or?
Just wasn't very hard and it was hard to keep it up. It's strange because I was pretty hard in my last two MO sessions. I guess the thing I'm puzzled by is consistency, once recovered should it be really easy to stay hard every time you masturbate? Or can it vary sometimes? I'm just really puzzled by how I'm going through periods where it's strong and periods where it's not

I'm a bit sleep deprived from bad sleep past few days and also a bit more stressed so I think that could be a factor. Do you notice these as factors affecting your arousal / erection quality?
 

Blondie

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Sorry to hear this @First_step_thousand_miles.

The thing is this just will take time, beside the fact that I would imagine sometimes it won't always be "perfectly hard" anyway. I'm almost 600 days out and I'm still seeing improvements down there. I told you recently I was having problems with ejaculating early, well now I feel like a beast again and I've literally done nothing down there, no kegels or anything like that. It's just slowly improving.

As you said, going back to a period of refrain might be the best thing for you. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither was this addiction unfortunately.

Best brother!
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Sorry to hear this @First_step_thousand_miles.

The thing is this just will take time, beside the fact that I would imagine sometimes it won't always be "perfectly hard" anyway. I'm almost 600 days out and I'm still seeing improvements down there. I told you recently I was having problems with ejaculating early, well now I feel like a beast again and I've literally done nothing down there, no kegels or anything like that. It's just slowly improving.

As you said, going back to a period of refrain might be the best thing for you. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither was this addiction unfortunately.

Best brother!
Yeah thanks a bunch man. I think my headspace right now is not great with being tired from low sleep and extra stressed, pretty sure that's the big thing throwing a wrench into things. If you don't mind me asking man:

Not to get too scientific but what % of the time would you say when you masturbate / have sex you are 100% hard vs. 90% hard vs. 80% hard or less?

When you're talking about improvements, do you mean in getting / staying hard or just ejaculating early?

Are you still going through periods where it feels physically speaking the progress is doing one of those 1 steps back, 2 steps forward?
 

Blondie

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Not to get too scientific but what % of the time would you say when you masturbate / have sex you are 100% hard vs. 90% hard vs. 80% hard or less?
I've never really kept much of a record of this, but I would say the last time I had a flatline it lasted only a few days and it was maybe 90-95% hard. It was completely functional obviously, just not quite what I usually have these days.
When you're talking about improvements, do you mean in getting / staying hard or just ejaculating early?
I'm talking in a holistic sense in general, unless I mention specifics. That ejaculating early thing probably lasted a month or so, and then in a few weeks it vanished. What actually happened? I have no clue, it's just working better now. Also, my dick is the most consistently big and non-shrunken its been since I started this.
Are you still going through periods where it feels physically speaking the progress is doing one of those 1 steps back, 2 steps forward?
Yes, it's all very non-linear. I know it's crazy. I know it sounds cliched. But you must trust the process. Sometimes it's hard to, but we must.

You got this.
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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I've never really kept much of a record of this, but I would say the last time I had a flatline it lasted only a few days and it was maybe 90-95% hard. It was completely functional obviously, just not quite what I usually have these days.

I'm talking in a holistic sense in general, unless I mention specifics. That ejaculating early thing probably lasted a month or so, and then in a few weeks it vanished. What actually happened? I have no clue, it's just working better now. Also, my dick is the most consistently big and non-shrunken its been since I started this.

Yes, it's all very non-linear. I know it's crazy. I know it sounds cliched. But you must trust the process. Sometimes it's hard to, but we must.

You got this.
Makes sense man, thanks for all the color. It's a non-linear journey for sure, I'll power through!
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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I think it's a very bad sign that your erections deteriorate so rapidly. You are overdoing it.

Give it a long break. Then, I think you'll see improvements. If you need inspiration, dig around here: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/sexual-problems/
Hey thanks man. Might be a flatline or just need some more time for recovery. I'm seriously thinking of doing 90 days no PMO again soon

I might be overdoing it as you said, since the 2 MO's before that one that I posted on were pretty solid. Just got worse after that. But I thought MO'ing 3-5x a week was fine? Not to say that's ideal and long term 1-2x is where I'd want to be but shouldn't it be ok do MO a bit more? Dunno, maybe it's reactivating the porn pathways being over-active on it and the MO's are veering into less realistic territory / the brain is craving a bigger hit so the regular stuff is less potent. Just my theory
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 358 -- EDIT: FYI this post was a stream of consciousness and I realized more stuff the more I wrote so my thinking seems kinda inconsistent for that reason but the further I go down the further I get to the root of the actual problem and the resolution (not going to delete the stuff before it as it was helpful in framing everything)

More recent MO's have been much better. Still wouldn't say great (as were the MO's I remember as I closed in on the 180 day mark), but I feel like I'm also putting big expectations on myself and literally creating performance anxiety. Might also do a 90 days no PMO again soon, just need to give my brain time to heal further.

It's been a very non-linear recovery but them's the strokes. I remember Blondie mentioned this a while back, but ultimately without a real girl to rewire with the MO's that I have won't be fully realistic. I have had sex a few times so I get the gist much more so than before, but they're still not at the right cadence / pace / etc.

I know it's not a mechanical problem since I've been very hard to porn before many times and even during those periods in my journal when I had a series of very hard MO's (without porn). It just comes down to arousal, and I think that's where my brain still gets aroused thinking about some porn-type content (I'm going to be fully transparent TRIGGER WARNING: I read a reddit story about this guy going raw with a Thai hooker and got hard to that...it was this kind of crap that I was into not super long ago which makes me feel super ashamed but I owe myself and you all honesty). Way less craving levels than before which is absolutely awesome, but it's still there (maybe 30% of what it used to be). That's why a purge from all orgasm might be best for some time

I also wonder if there's a flatline scenario. Either way, I think the best thing for me would be to do the 90 days no MO. Going to think about this some more

EDIT: I just realized something. Over the past few 1-2 weeks I've felt that 'craving' feeling of needing to come home and MO. I didn't place much emphasis on it because it was much lighter than that PMO craving feeling you get in your first 90 days or so of quitting porn but it was exactly that (just weaker). Also that kind of fantasizing as I described above in the TRIGGER WARNING section I've entertained. Not on purpose but it just insidiously sort of happened before I put a stop to it. I think this stuff is setting me back so I need to start the purge

This is yet 1 more sign that my brain is still undergoing these withdrawal symptoms. I really am realizing quitting MO entirely for some time would be the best move

I also went back and read my posts around day 170 or so when I had fantastic 9/10 or 10/10 MOs. Everything does indeed work down there quite well, it's an arousal issue. And that either means flatline or brain is going through a healing cycle (maybe both) where I'm still purging the porn before really getting hard to normal girls.
 
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