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Tryinghere

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Thanks for the answer dude, then to recover I'm doing the same things as the old reboot, meditation, intense training (I'm a sportsman who could also have a career as a footballer) then healthy eating and I'm practically no longer watching TV and avoiding all the sex scenes, I only use the phone to write to friends and spend many hours on the forum to cure pied. The only difference between the old restart and this is that in the old reboot I was constantly with my girlfriend and other people, in this instead I saw her only once in 36 days and I go around a little ... this is the only difference, maybe that's why I have such an ugly flat line in this ...
Honestly you might be onto something there. The single biggest thing that got me out of flatline was being with my wife. We would be sexual without having sex. Sometimes, if I got an erection, we would have sex but I wouldn’t cum. That was what did it. One night we fooled around with no expectation of erection. I got hard, I would enter her, but I did not cum. The very next morning I woke up feeling genuinely horny for the first time in months.

It sounds like you’re doing everything right as far as meditation and training. I’d try going and being social. Try to meet up with your girl. Does she know about your reboot?
 
Honestly you might be onto something there. The single biggest thing that got me out of flatline was being with my wife. We would be sexual without having sex. Sometimes, if I got an erection, we would have sex but I wouldn’t cum. That was what did it. One night we fooled around with no expectation of erection. I got hard, I would enter her, but I did not cum. The very next morning I woke up feeling genuinely horny for the first time in months.

It sounds like you’re doing everything right as far as meditation and training. I’d try going and being social. Try to meet up with your girl. Does she know about your reboot?
That's right, stupidly I read from people who don't understand, that rewiring is a myth ... but judging by my last restart and this I can say that's not true, thanks to that I was having erections, especially for me who am a virgin ... anyway no she doesn't know about the restart but fortunately in this period we don't have opportunities to have sex because we are 18 years old and we still live with parents, but still we are together and things become sexual when we are alone ... anyway thank you very much friend for your answers, having a person to talk to talk to is really a relief, if I notice something I will write to you immediately, so maybe maybe to help you too
 

Tryinghere

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That's right, stupidly I read from people who don't understand, that rewiring is a myth ... but judging by my last restart and this I can say that's not true, thanks to that I was having erections, especially for me who am a virgin ... anyway no she doesn't know about the restart but fortunately in this period we don't have opportunities to have sex because we are 18 years old and we still live with parents, but still we are together and things become sexual when we are alone ... anyway thank you very much friend for your answers, having a person to talk to talk to is really a relief, if I notice something I will write to you immediately, so maybe maybe to help you too
Yeah dude. Anytime. You’ll get there. The fact that you don’t have any real life sexual experience will make recovery take longer. Don’t listen to people that say things like “Rewiring is a myth”. Fuck that. Break down what happened:

as a man, you desire sexual pleasure. You have been getting that pleasure from porn. Therefore, your brain associates sexual pleasure with a screen. It doesn’t know what to do with a real human.

the point of rewire is to train your brain to associate sexual pleasure with a real person.

Youre in flatline because your brain is pissed off that it can’t fuck a screen whenever it wants to now. Once your brain figures out that real women are waaaayyyyy better than a screen, you’ll be fine.

but be realistic. Between now and then is going to have a lot of “this sucks” in it lol. It’s just what it is. Don’t give up. Keep going. Whatever you do, don’t look at porn.

message me if you ever need anything
 
Sì amico. In qualsiasi momento. Ci arriverai. Il fatto che tu non abbia alcuna esperienza sessuale nella vita reale renderà il recupero più lungo. Non ascoltare le persone che dicono cose come "Il ricablaggio è un mito". Fanculo. Scomponi cosa è successo:

come uomo, desideri il piacere sessuale. Hai avuto quel piacere dal porno. Pertanto, il tuo cervello associa il piacere sessuale a uno schermo. Non sa cosa fare con un vero essere umano.

il punto di ricablare è allenare il tuo cervello ad associare il piacere sessuale a una persona reale.

Sei in una linea piatta perché il tuo cervello è incazzato perché non può scopare uno schermo quando vuole adesso. Una volta che il tuo cervello capirà che le donne vere sono mooolto meglio di uno schermo, starai bene.

ma sii realistico. Tra ora e allora ci sarà un sacco di "questo fa schifo" lol. È proprio quello che è. Non mollare. Continuare. Qualunque cosa tu faccia, non guardare il porno.

mandami un messaggio se hai bisogno di qualcosa
Yeah dude. Anytime. You’ll get there. The fact that you don’t have any real life sexual experience will make recovery take longer. Don’t listen to people that say things like “Rewiring is a myth”. Fuck that. Break down what happened:

as a man, you desire sexual pleasure. You have been getting that pleasure from porn. Therefore, your brain associates sexual pleasure with a screen. It doesn’t know what to do with a real human.

the point of rewire is to train your brain to associate sexual pleasure with a real person.

Youre in flatline because your brain is pissed off that it can’t fuck a screen whenever it wants to now. Once your brain figures out that real women are waaaayyyyy better than a screen, you’ll be fine.

but be realistic. Between now and then is going to have a lot of “this sucks” in it lol. It’s just what it is. Don’t give up. Keep going. Whatever you do, don’t look at porn.

message me if you ever need anything
Yes exact friend, no as far as porn is concerned I am 100% sure, I have a very strong mentality and when I do something I carry it all the way, I have always done this, the only thing I have noticed and I can recommend to you, and that for us it is better not to watch porn and not masturbate, we have to commit only with our partner, everything
 

Tryinghere

Active Member
Yes exact friend, no as far as porn is concerned I am 100% sure, I have a very strong mentality and when I do something I carry it all the way, I have always done this, the only thing I have noticed and I can recommend to you, and that for us it is better not to watch porn and not masturbate, we have to commit only with our partner, everything
Exactly. And if you have a partner. TELL THEM. They can help you get better
 
Exactly. And if you have a partner. TELL THEM. They can help you get better
Yes, I'll tell you, but calmly, when we have the chance to be sexual I'll tell you ... anyway I hope one day to get married and have children too ... this girl is really fantastic and always makes me feel good, and then she's crazy about me, she's in love a lot and said she wants to be with me forever, and she begs me every day that I never leave her
 

Tryinghere

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Yes, I'll tell you, but calmly, when we have the chance to be sexual I'll tell you ... anyway I hope one day to get married and have children too ... this girl is really fantastic and always makes me feel good, and then she's crazy about me, she's in love a lot and said she wants to be with me forever, and she begs me every day that I never leave her
Sounds like you have a keeper. I would be honest with her. Tell her what you’re doing and why you’re doing it. It’s all in an effort to be the man she needs you to be. You might be surprised at how cool she is about it. I was afraid to tell my wife, but I did and she helped me. Without her help, I’d still be struggling
 
Sounds like you have a keeper. I would be honest with her. Tell her what you’re doing and why you’re doing it. It’s all in an effort to be the man she needs you to be. You might be surprised at how cool she is about it. I was afraid to tell my wife, but I did and she helped me. Without her help, I’d still be struggling
Sounds like you have a keeper. I would be honest with her. Tell her what you’re doing and why you’re doing it. It’s all in an effort to be the man she needs you to be. You might be surprised at how cool she is about it. I was afraid to tell my wife, but I did and she helped me. Without her help, I’d still be struggling
I will do this, thank you very much and I hope the best for you man
 
Thanks for the answer dude, then to recover I'm doing the same things as the old reboot, meditation, intense training (I'm a sportsman who could also have a career as a footballer) then healthy eating and I'm practically no longer watching TV and avoiding all the sex scenes, I only use the phone to write to friends and spend many hours on the forum to cure pied. The only difference between the old restart and this is that in the old reboot I was constantly with my girlfriend and other people, in this instead I saw her only once in 36 days and I go around a little ... this is the only difference, maybe that's why I have such an ugly flat line in this ...
We are built different but the same I guess, I got on a flatline from day 1, I was very worried because that's not very common, I usually feel cravings after 1-2 days, also, I usually feel something when I see an attractive girl which isn't the case lately, but I found many people like me here and on reddit and that's what lowered my severe anxiety, I have also experienced a nocturnal erection 60% on day 5 (I'm on day 7 btw), flatlines are unpredictable and different for everyone, just take it as a free NoFap progress coz the lack of urges and libido but when you go on withdrawal symptoms you have to be very very strong, I still haven't left the flatline yet but that's what people experienced.
 
Yeah dude. Anytime. You’ll get there. The fact that you don’t have any real life sexual experience will make recovery take longer. Don’t listen to people that say things like “Rewiring is a myth”. Fuck that. Break down what happened:

as a man, you desire sexual pleasure. You have been getting that pleasure from porn. Therefore, your brain associates sexual pleasure with a screen. It doesn’t know what to do with a real human.

the point of rewire is to train your brain to associate sexual pleasure with a real person.

Youre in flatline because your brain is pissed off that it can’t fuck a screen whenever it wants to now. Once your brain figures out that real women are waaaayyyyy better than a screen, you’ll be fine.

but be realistic. Between now and then is going to have a lot of “this sucks” in it lol. It’s just what it is. Don’t give up. Keep going. Whatever you do, don’t look at porn.

message me if you ever need anything
I don't currently have a girlfriend, they keep leaving me because I was always depressed and low energy because of excessive PMO, since I'm in a flatline I don't feel any attraction or motivation to approach girls at the moment, won't I get out of the flatline if I don't interact with them? Or is leaving PMO forever enough to rewire the pathways?

Thank you so much for your time and answers
 

Tryinghere

Active Member
I don't currently have a girlfriend, they keep leaving me because I was always depressed and low energy because of excessive PMO, since I'm in a flatline I don't feel any attraction or motivation to approach girls at the moment, won't I get out of the flatline if I don't interact with them? Or is leaving PMO forever enough to rewire the pathways?

Thank you so much for your time and answers
No problem man. This shit sucks. I want to help. You’re eventually going to have to rewire but you aren’t there yet. For now. Just force yourself to be active. Force yourself to talk to women. Just say hello at the grocery store or whatever. You’re going to have to make yourself do it. Eventually your energy and zest for life will come back. Right now you’re in the middle of the shit, but it won’t last forever
 
Guys, however, if you think about it even if it's scary it will necessarily end up, because there are a lot of people who have recovered and who have had improvements ... just follow the plan, if you think about refraining from everything for 1 year they say that we restore the brain to that of a virgin (even if we already are hahaha) so anyway this thing doesn't last forever ... just never fall back again, whatever happens, and wait to have orgasm with partners ... I've seen a lot of people have improvements, maybe have sex with partners, and then fall back without a sense ... no we have to abandon the fallout forever, day 37 today, complete flatline and dead cock, but let's go on forever
 
Hi guys, these days I was completely convinced that Rewire is the most important part of all, unfortunately the toxic people in the forums were making me change my mind, but it is not so ... today it is 38 days in the hard mode restart and 4 months without porn, now I am in an extreme flat line ... which had not happened in the 60-day restart, the only difference between the two is that in the 60 restart I was constantly with my girlfriend, in this I saw her only 1 time, because then she left on vacation with her parents .... The difference between the two restarts in my opinion is this, and this shows why in this I have no improvement while in the other I had them. Now the advice I give you is to do a hardmode restart for as long as possible, so nothing O, no M and no P but in the meantime rewire with a girl as much as possible and then do O with her but after a long time... I will probably go for 6 months doing this and then try to have sex with O... anyway masturbation and porn I left him forever
 
No problem man. This shit sucks. I want to help. You’re eventually going to have to rewire but you aren’t there yet. For now. Just force yourself to be active. Force yourself to talk to women. Just say hello at the grocery store or whatever. You’re going to have to make yourself do it. Eventually your energy and zest for life will come back. Right now you’re in the middle of the shit, but it won’t last forever
Hello brothers,

I'm only at day 11, I sometimes think of the girl I was with (the one I couldn't get an erection for) and I do get hard just by imagining her again, I think that's a sign that I'm off the flatline, I understand that it comes and goes, I still feel no urges though, just wanted to let you know since I can't share this with anyone.

Thanks for your understanding
 

Tryinghere

Active Member
Hello brothers,

I'm only at day 11, I sometimes think of the girl I was with (the one I couldn't get an erection for) and I do get hard just by imagining her again, I think that's a sign that I'm off the flatline, I understand that it comes and goes, I still feel no urges though, just wanted to let you know since I can't share this with anyone.

Thanks for your understanding
You’ll ge they’re dude. Just keep going
 

Oscar40

Active Member
I will probably go for 6 months doing this and then try to have sex with O... anyway masturbation and porn I left him forever

Of course. This is what I always advise: total rest, as much as possible for a long time (ideally 8 months to 9 months) and then start dating someone (if your body wants it).
 

Oscar40

Active Member
We are built different but the same I guess, I got on a flatline from day 1, I was very worried because that's not very common, I usually feel cravings after 1-2 days, also, I usually feel something when I see an attractive girl which isn't the case lately, but I found many people like me here and on reddit and that's what lowered my severe anxiety, I have also experienced a nocturnal erection 60% on day 5 (I'm on day 7 btw), flatlines are unpredictable and different for everyone, just take it as a free NoFap progress coz the lack of urges and libido but when you go on withdrawal symptoms you have to be very very strong, I still haven't left the flatline yet but that's what people experienced.


Hello.

Very well.

I think that's the normal fluctuations in anyone's libido. Personally, for that reason I have never believed in the flat line.

What is happening to you is so normal that it happens to those who have not gone through a PMO porn addiction.
 
Okay guys then the situation is complicated, I'm 41 days hard mode, and I don't see the improvements I had had in the 60-day series, actually in my current series the improvements I had at the beginning and then they disappeared ... however this belongs what worries me most are wet dreams ... I'M HAVING TOO MANY WET DREAMS! And I'm not even with a full erection... how do I do it??? I'm very stiff in my hard mode series but I have these frequent wet dreams
 

Tryinghere

Active Member
Okay guys then the situation is complicated, I'm 41 days hard mode, and I don't see the improvements I had had in the 60-day series, actually in my current series the improvements I had at the beginning and then they disappeared ... however this belongs what worries me most are wet dreams ... I'M HAVING TOO MANY WET DREAMS! And I'm not even with a full erection... how do I do it??? I'm very stiff in my hard mode series but I have these frequent wet dreams
I wouldn’t worry about wet dreams even a little bit. You’re abstaining from….everything.
You’re good bro. It’s just a function of your body. Keep up the good word.
I WILL say this. If you’re having a lot of wet dreams, it might be a sign that you’re ready for some Rewiring, or maybe break hard mode and MO on occasion.
Depending on your goals, masturbation isn’t harmful. Just don’t get habitual with it.
 

Tryinghere

Active Member
Hello.

Very well.

I think that's the normal fluctuations in anyone's libido. Personally, for that reason I have never believed in the flat line.

What is happening to you is so normal that it happens to those who have not gone through a PMO porn addiction.
For what it’s worth, I know what my natural libido is. I also experienced a nasty flatline. I can tell you, flatline is much more than lack of libido. It’s fucking awful….and a real thing.
 
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