Deep flatline - freaking out

I've gone 90 days hard mode - no PMO. I'm now in a deep flatline and I feel completely lifeless down below, like I don't even have a dick. It's freaking me out and I'm feeling a temptation to "test" myself to check on the hardware. I know this would be a huge mistake and that a flatline is a sign of healing. Still, it's a daunting position to be in.

I'm 32 and I'm also feeling like I'm too old to make a recovery and regain my vitality. I know this isn't true, but the feeling haunts me. I know that the best thing to do for now is be patient and to focus my energy on self improvement - chasing my goals and exercising.

I'm writing this to get this off my chest, this recovery process is lonely, you can't share it with other people in your life (I don't have an SO)...
 

Scorpio1990

Member
I've gone 90 days hard mode - no PMO. I'm now in a deep flatline and I feel completely lifeless down below, like I don't even have a dick. It's freaking me out and I'm feeling a temptation to "test" myself to check on the hardware. I know this would be a huge mistake and that a flatline is a sign of healing. Still, it's a daunting position to be in.

I'm 32 and I'm also feeling like I'm too old to make a recovery and regain my vitality. I know this isn't true, but the feeling haunts me. I know that the best thing to do for now is be patient and to focus my energy on self improvement - chasing my goals and exercising.

I'm writing this to get this off my chest, this recovery process is lonely, you can't share it with other people in your life (I don't have an SO)...
Hey dude, I’m going through the same thing as you and I have been over 2months. So I definitely understand what your feeling and adding to that I feel like shit. It definitely feels lonely. What’s motivated me are the success stories specially the people who have gone through long flatlines. So through this time have you have not managed to get it up with a girl or fantasy?
 
Hey dude, I’m going through the same thing as you and I have been over 2months. So I definitely understand what your feeling and adding to that I feel like shit. It definitely feels lonely. What’s motivated me are the success stories specially the people who have gone through long flatlines. So through this time have you have not managed to get it up with a girl or fantasy?
I'm trying to avoid fantasy in case in leads to relapse. And I'm looking to start dating when I feel healed. Hope you get healed up man, I appreciate the reply.
 

Scorpio1990

Member
Good, idea I think that’s the best way to go. We just gotta stay strong with this and keep going. Likewise man, I hope you get healed too.
 

Fappy

Respected Member
thats the thing about flatlines, you cant really predict when they will end. could be tomorrow, could be next month, next year. it makes no sense to get stressed over it, becasue then with the stress and anxiety you may resort to stupid things to try and test your cock - such as peeking at a few sexy images. then youve set yourself back even further. so jsut be cool about it and remember it wont last forever.
 

Scorpio1990

Member
thats the thing about flatlines, you cant really predict when they will end. could be tomorrow, could be next month, next year. it makes no sense to get stressed over it, becasue then with the stress and anxiety you may resort to stupid things to try and test your cock - such as peeking at a few sexy images. then youve set yourself back even further. so jsut be cool about it and remember it wont last forever.
Yeah your right but another thing for me is also dealing with the withdrawals symptoms. I have anhedonia, body aches, and etc so I just want it to go away.
 

Oscar40

Active Member
@Scorpio1990

@theway1002

Just a Advide:

Be careful because this topic of the flat line is very "invented" to a certain extent.

During my thousands of reboots I never believed in flat lines and thanks to that, I never felt them. And I've been up to 8 months in hard mode.

Be careful with ideas and beliefs as you reboot. If you think they're in a "deep flatline and all that nonsense" well, that's a prophecy that's going to come true.
 
@Scorpio1990

@theway1002

Just a Advide:

Be careful because this topic of the flat line is very "invented" to a certain extent.

During my thousands of reboots I never believed in flat lines and thanks to that, I never felt them. And I've been up to 8 months in hard mode.

Be careful with ideas and beliefs as you reboot. If you think they're in a "deep flatline and all that nonsense" well, that's a prophecy that's going to come true.
That's right, I'm a guy who pied, in the last reboot I did 60 days of hardmode and I had small improvements even if invisible over the days, then I fell back masturbating 3 times, without porn anyway, and started another series. In this series I have 36 days, at first I had crazy erections, and then they disappeared on the 20th and now I am in an absurd flat line ... I don't understand how these flat lines are made and why in this it is so obvious and in the old one no ... anyway the difference between these two restarts is that in that of 60 I was almost always together with my partner, without orgasm of course, instead in this I saw her only once in 36 days
 

Oscar40

Active Member
That's right, I'm a guy who pied, in the last reboot I did 60 days of hardmode and I had small improvements even if invisible over the days, then I fell back masturbating 3 times, without porn anyway, and started another series. In this series I have 36 days, at first I had crazy erections, and then they disappeared on the 20th and now I am in an absurd flat line ... I don't understand how these flat lines are made and why in this it is so obvious and in the old one no ... anyway the difference between these two restarts is that in that of 60 I was almost always together with my partner, without orgasm of course, instead in this I saw her only once in 36 days

As you can see, the subject of flat lines is a matter without head or tail, it is something speculative, without any kind of foundation, it is something completely psychological.

I never believed in flat lines and thanks to that, I never experienced any flat lines.

I'm almost a year into a hard reboot, and yet I've never experienced any flat lines during this long reboot, instead my momentum goes up and down, up and down, just like any normal human being.




I say this below without the intention of offending anyone and I say it from a very very personal position:

Flat lines only exist if you believe in it. If you don't believe in that, flat lines don't exist.

If there is something in these forums that has always seemed vague to me, it is the topic of flat lines.


However:

Suppose that at this moment you find yourself with a low sexual desire (which is also very normal in the human species):

What is the problem in being in that state?

Being in that state why should it be a cause for concern?

Isn't it better to be in that state to concentrate on other things in life, instead of being aware of things related to sex?




n this series I have 36 days, at first I had crazy erections, and then they disappeared on the 20th and now I am in an absurd flat line ... I don't understand how these flat lines are made and why in this it is so obvious and in the old one no ... anyway the difference between these two restarts is that in that of 60 I was almost always together with my partner, without orgasm of course, instead in this I saw her only once in 36 days
For example: here in these ideas on your part, I see a very harmful trend for you and that is that, what I see here, is that you are very obsessive with this, in fact, you count the days in a very meticulous way with respect to to these things. Don't count the days, don't count the hours, just go and enjoy life, when you least expect it, you'll spend whole months, and you haven't even noticed.
This way of proceeding about counting the days, and being so aware of my body and its "supposed sexual reactions" seems to me !!! so harmful and negative""

The restart is not about counting days and being aware if I enter a "supposed flat line", no, no. That's not what the reboot should be about. The reset must be something very different from simply "counting the days" and keeping an eye on whether my penis is a certain size or shape today.

Rebooting is a rest, total rest from all forms of stimuli or contexts related to the needs of sex, because that is simply what rebooting is all about: forgetting about everything related to sex, for a mind (brain) that is feeling tired and that's why it can't respond as it should:


Reboot is not counting days.

The restart is not to be aware of my genitals

Rebooting Isn't Just Getting Away From Porn

The reset is not being stuck in a community forum obsessed with this topic every day by logging into these forums.

The restart is not to wait whether or not I enter a "supposed flat line"

Rebooting is not counting the days I've gone without porn and masturbating, or counting the days I've gone without sex. That does not work. In fact, if you take a good look at the YBOP (YOUR BRAIN ON PORN) page, they recommend not counting days, because that's not what restarting is about.

The reboot is all about YOU DISCOVERING WHAT YOUR LIFE IS LIKE WITHOUT BEING ADDICTED TO PORN. The reboot is about you DISCOVERING YOUR TRUE SEXUALITY AND YOUR TRUE STIMULI. To achieve this, it is necessary, and very urgent, to get completely (hopefully forever) away from internet porn and other media. But, it is also important to allow the brain and body to rest. If you've quit porn, are rebooting, and are still keeping an eye on your body sexually, counting down days and also trying sex for now, that means you're really messing up the rebooting process in some way.


To reboot properly you need to BE CALM. If you are counting days, that means you are not calm. That means that for you it is so shocking to have left porn, that you are still counting the days you haven't seen it.
 
That's right, I'll definitely follow your advice, because thinking about this every day also brings me anxiety, instead when I do other things and don't think about it I'm calm ... I'll go forever without porn and masturbation and have sex when erections come back on their own, for now I enjoy the moments with my friends and my girlfriend without having sex, and I also finish coming here on the forum
 
As you can see, the subject of flat lines is a matter without head or tail, it is something speculative, without any kind of foundation, it is something completely psychological.

I never believed in flat lines and thanks to that, I never experienced any flat lines.

I'm almost a year into a hard reboot, and yet I've never experienced any flat lines during this long reboot, instead my momentum goes up and down, up and down, just like any normal human being.




I say this below without the intention of offending anyone and I say it from a very very personal position:

Flat lines only exist if you believe in it. If you don't believe in that, flat lines don't exist.

If there is something in these forums that has always seemed vague to me, it is the topic of flat lines.


However:

Suppose that at this moment you find yourself with a low sexual desire (which is also very normal in the human species):

What is the problem in being in that state?

Being in that state why should it be a cause for concern?

Isn't it better to be in that state to concentrate on other things in life, instead of being aware of things related to sex?





For example: here in these ideas on your part, I see a very harmful trend for you and that is that, what I see here, is that you are very obsessive with this, in fact, you count the days in a very meticulous way with respect to to these things. Don't count the days, don't count the hours, just go and enjoy life, when you least expect it, you'll spend whole months, and you haven't even noticed.
This way of proceeding about counting the days, and being so aware of my body and its "supposed sexual reactions" seems to me !!! so harmful and negative""

The restart is not about counting days and being aware if I enter a "supposed flat line", no, no. That's not what the reboot should be about. The reset must be something very different from simply "counting the days" and keeping an eye on whether my penis is a certain size or shape today.

Rebooting is a rest, total rest from all forms of stimuli or contexts related to the needs of sex, because that is simply what rebooting is all about: forgetting about everything related to sex, for a mind (brain) that is feeling tired and that's why it can't respond as it should:


Reboot is not counting days.

The restart is not to be aware of my genitals

Rebooting Isn't Just Getting Away From Porn

The reset is not being stuck in a community forum obsessed with this topic every day by logging into these forums.

The restart is not to wait whether or not I enter a "supposed flat line"

Rebooting is not counting the days I've gone without porn and masturbating, or counting the days I've gone without sex. That does not work. In fact, if you take a good look at the YBOP (YOUR BRAIN ON PORN) page, they recommend not counting days, because that's not what restarting is about.

The reboot is all about YOU DISCOVERING WHAT YOUR LIFE IS LIKE WITHOUT BEING ADDICTED TO PORN. The reboot is about you DISCOVERING YOUR TRUE SEXUALITY AND YOUR TRUE STIMULI. To achieve this, it is necessary, and very urgent, to get completely (hopefully forever) away from internet porn and other media. But, it is also important to allow the brain and body to rest. If you've quit porn, are rebooting, and are still keeping an eye on your body sexually, counting down days and also trying sex for now, that means you're really messing up the rebooting process in some way.


To reboot properly you need to BE CALM. If you are counting days, that means you are not calm. That means that for you it is so shocking to have left porn, that you are still counting the days you haven't seen it.
This is great advice. Thinking about being in a flatline for a certain period of time is counterproductive and will cause other issues like performance anxiety. Of course its easier said than done bc when the D is not working properly its a big issue. I’m struggling with the ups and downs of the reboot/rewire process. There is an ingrain guilt of the wasted time looking at porn instead of being intimate with my wife. I go to the forum periodically for self therapy bc were on an island that you can‘t discuss with friends or family openly without the shame or judgment.
 
Questo è un ottimo consiglio. Pensare di essere in una linea piatta per un certo periodo di tempo è controproducente e causerà altri problemi come l'ansia da prestazione. Ovviamente è più facile a dirsi che a farsi bc quando la D non funziona correttamente è un grosso problema. Sto lottando con gli alti e bassi del processo di riavvio/ricablaggio. C'è un senso di colpa radicato per il tempo perso a guardare il porno invece di essere intimo con mia moglie. Vado periodicamente al forum per l'autoterapia perché eravamo su un'isola di cui non puoi discutere
I totally understand what you say, now I will go forever without masturbation and porn and a long time without orgasm ... I will only do rewiring with my girlfriend without orgasm ... I hope one day to get married and have a normal life considering that I am only 18 years old
 
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