Mental Dilemma

bshaughnessy

New Member
New to RN and starting my journal.
Heard about RN via a mensgroup.com podcast and decided to check it out. Was convinced pretty quickly that I need to treat my situation like an addiction and take appropriate steps.

Short background story --
I'm 45 and I've struggled off and on with porn for years, mostly because of marriage difficulties. I'm in a committed and loving marriage for 20yrs (though we've had a few rocky years), but our sexual relationship has always been a significant area of struggle for me. I'd sum it up by saying my wife has never really had any sexual drive and I'm the type of guy who needs to know he's wanted. Since that's never really happened (feeling wanted), we have a pretty passionless marriage. I don't initiate because I don't deal well with rejection and don't like feeling like I'm asking her for a favor or something. She does initiate sometimes and I know she appreciates the closeness of intimacy, but there's no excitement involved. I enjoy it -- but it isn't what I crave. Part of the problem is also that she only "sort of" orgasms using a vibrator: she doesn't like manual stimulation, doesn't really like oral, and always seems to have some level of discomfort with penetration. So I've pretty much given up being able to please her, and as a consequence don't even want to have sex most of the time -- I feel selfish climaxing knowing she won't, and so would rather not even have sex.

At this point I actively avoid sex without letting her know. That's not particularly hard to do, as we typically only have sex once a month during a short window when she seems to have a peak level of interest. Most of the time I'm depressed after sex. I know that at this point there's a mess going on in my head, and I've constructed well-developed story lines that are not entirely accurate but are also the product of years of experiences. I also realize some of those story lines are defense mechanisms.

I try to convince myself that I don't like or want sex, and focus on suppressing my libido as a way to cope. But that has minimal success and is where porn enters the picture. When I hunger for a sexual outlet, or want to fantasize about what I would want in a relationship (as it relates to sex) -- I turn to porn. It seems safe in ways. I convince myself that it's not impacting my relationship with my wife, since there's minimal sex there anyway.

But I feel like shit after PMO, and I definitely have had focus problems. Plus, I know that PMO just keeps me wanting more. If I'm really serious about suppressing libido, porn definitely isn't helping. I also want to be in a place where I can enjoy intimacy with my wife, even if it isn't what I really want it to be.

So here is day 1 of my reboot.
 

Percival

Active Member
That's rough, friend. Sounds like maybe some marriage counseling would help; it's not really any one's fault, but it's there, and it's causing trouble. Kudos to you for doing your best despite it all.

Porn seems safe, I know. None of those girls will reject you; in fact, they'll "do" whatever you want, whenever you want. Ultimately, I think this journey is about making ourselves the best men we can be, regardless of what else does or doesn't happen.
 

Simon2

Well-Known Member
I'm gonna be brutally honest here: You start by saying you are in a loving marriage to start. Then you describe something that I am not sure can be described as such... It doesn't seem like it's really in a great place because sex is such an important part of a marriage.

Marriage counselling for sure - I agree with @Percival . It can help anyone. Are you communicating openly about the challenges with your sex life? Or is it too hard to bring up? Maybe there's ways you two could feel more connected and intimate that would feel good to both of you? It's not just about sex but the whole spectrum of intimacy.

Finally I do think we overemphasize the importance of O a lot. You can have GREAT sex without O. In fact it could be better. Focus on the path - not the goal. Maybe if YOUR goal is just to enjoy "the path" and find out how you can make her "path" enjoyable - never mind the O - then sex could have a new value in your relationship? Some days that might just be cuddling - other days it might be more...
 

bshaughnessy

New Member
Well, that didn't last long.
Restarting today.

Observing that sometimes when I get the urge it so impacts my ability to focus and work that I'm looking for ways to just "get it over with" so I can get on with life. I resist the temptation to a point where I give in simply to move on.

@SimonM I hear what you say. It really is a loving relationship. It's just that there are things that I want to be there naturally -- not because of intention (if that makes sense). I don't want sex with my wife because I need it; I want it because she wants it (i.e. we mutually want it). I recognize a lot of the problem is with my head and how I process things.

We have had discussions about counseling/therapy but TBH that's a pretty terrifying thought.
 

joepanic

Respected Member
What was your sex life like before and shortly after your marriage.. Your story sounds a little like mine although I'm pretty sure when I make love to my wife she orgasms most of the time. The initiation thing is a bit of a issue between us as I always have to initiate so many times i feel like its just for me although she says it isn't. I feel it is somewhat of a control issue with her and she readily admits to having control issues(it runs in her family) I am actually going to see a marriage councilor in August on my own to see if I can find ways around her control issues. Kind of a If you can't beat them join them. Perhaps you should consider going on your own at 1st too

Percival and Simon I totally agree with your points also This is one of the more intelligent conversations that has recently started here

Post often it helps me it helps you
 
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