Hello, it is day 5 of no porn and wife is away and I am in bed alone struggling not to PMO or MO. I am trying to justify to myself that MO would be ok if there is no P. The urge to MO is getting stronger. Can someone help me understand why the MO is so bad if there is no porn? Thank you!
you can find differing viewpoints but it will come down to personal beliefs, goals, and prior habits.
on the one hand there can be such a thing is healthy masturbation, if the person is present, maybe focused on the image of a real person, partner, not using a death grip, and certainly not overdoing it.
however, for myself, and I think many others, MO can quickly lead down a path to more frequent MO, and eventually giving into PMO, or MO fantasies involving someone other than your partner (if in a relationship).
Ultimately nobody can make that decision other than you. i think definitely cutting out the P in PMO makes things better. After that you really have to think about how you will respond to MO afterwards going forwards.
Myself I am at the time of this writing, past 60 days of hardcore abstinence, working on no porn, and working on my relationship with my wife. So i may not be an expert on this, but i'm just giving my thoughts