Winnerwhoabstains
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I will say though -globally I have been a bit too irritable. Like I notice sooo many people I have met recently I immediately don't want to deal with them anymore. Mostly girls though.
For example I am taking some college classes - I started a club and made a girl the vice president, she was ignoring me for like tons of messages and calls in a row - it feels lame, like the girl treated me like I was a lame guy who wanted to date her -and she was blowing me off. But we had actual club shit to do. So I finally got annoyed and sent her a pretty nice text like " hey I feel like you don't want to be vice president but don't want to say anything" type of thing. And she sent back 3 long texts about like I was not clear about the requirements etc. it was draining to read - I texted back " no prob" and then blocked her number lol.
Basically though, like MOST of the girls at this college I have exchanged numbers with - I have blocked their numbers like super fast. I was thinking maybe I am being too rash - that was a past issue I had with dating, I'd burn bridges and cut girls too fast. I think it has resurfaced a bit. not being strategic. I posted this before but I find with women I do need to be strategic, just being totally real or authentic does not work. Like me just genuinely trying to make stuff happen for the club - the girl acted like I was a lame guy trying to get in touch with her - basically my experience has been with women of my age - it is ALWAYS game.
I think the lesson there though is : soon maybe I'll start dating again. Love him or hate him - Andrew Tate is right about some things. I have found female friendships have not really worked for me. Like I find girls that I have not had sex with are super flaky unreliable and don't seem to value me.
So 1) I do need to examine my emotions more and not cut women out so fast. 2) But the flip side of that I need to be more strategic in handling women. The fact is - ( these are attractive girls around 20) women have TONS of social value they get hit up online all the time and stuff, and they do not have the same standards of reliability and manners ( this is not hating on them, just like how things work socially imo) so like I do need to"game" them a bit to have them value my time and be responsive.
That being said : I think several of the women who came to my club, were interested in dating me, but I tried to platonically build the club and have them be a part of it, and they became super unreliable and basically fizzled out of existence in my life. I think in the future, I am just going to be a lot more aggressive and aim to date them as much as I can. I won't be in the school much longer, I don't like it much, socially it's not been great. May as well just take risks and aim to date the girls.
Another point on myself : I am a bit afraid to date. Like let me admit it.
My backstory: I was over a year P AND MO free - I was dating two girls. One of them I drove away as the addiction was coming back and was showing up in our interactions. She knew about my issue. So that ended.
Around the same time - the other girl did something and I felt my life was destroyed. It really sucked and harmed my family life. This was about September 2021. It rocked everything. It was horrible. But then it got WAY worse about a year ago. I became suicidal, like for real. Even went to the hospital once After being suicidal for some weeks - I relapsed, worse then ever. Gained weight, lost some of my good habits and gained something of a worse temper. It sucked. Like it has been a lot regaining some of my old habits and confidence and everything. Like I was constantly stressed.
But anyways - I get PIED. And the lapses and like idk all sorts of things and anxieties now I feel like it feels " so far away" dating again, bringing women home and things. I have been there before and it sucked. Plus -I feel like I am wasting time.
Anyways - I am glad I finally wrote this hear... it was on my chest I guess.
I think something I have been doing to is like avoiding real dating and setting my expectations as a fantasy. So - anyways, I am like scared of dating again and feel like odd about fitting women in my life.
ALSO - I got some medicine - which has really helped but I am like ashamed of bringing girls home or people finding out I am now taking anti anxiety med and a mild adhd med ( honestly both have been very helpful and I prob needed the adhd one long ago - it is a non stimulant)
For example I am taking some college classes - I started a club and made a girl the vice president, she was ignoring me for like tons of messages and calls in a row - it feels lame, like the girl treated me like I was a lame guy who wanted to date her -and she was blowing me off. But we had actual club shit to do. So I finally got annoyed and sent her a pretty nice text like " hey I feel like you don't want to be vice president but don't want to say anything" type of thing. And she sent back 3 long texts about like I was not clear about the requirements etc. it was draining to read - I texted back " no prob" and then blocked her number lol.
Basically though, like MOST of the girls at this college I have exchanged numbers with - I have blocked their numbers like super fast. I was thinking maybe I am being too rash - that was a past issue I had with dating, I'd burn bridges and cut girls too fast. I think it has resurfaced a bit. not being strategic. I posted this before but I find with women I do need to be strategic, just being totally real or authentic does not work. Like me just genuinely trying to make stuff happen for the club - the girl acted like I was a lame guy trying to get in touch with her - basically my experience has been with women of my age - it is ALWAYS game.
I think the lesson there though is : soon maybe I'll start dating again. Love him or hate him - Andrew Tate is right about some things. I have found female friendships have not really worked for me. Like I find girls that I have not had sex with are super flaky unreliable and don't seem to value me.
So 1) I do need to examine my emotions more and not cut women out so fast. 2) But the flip side of that I need to be more strategic in handling women. The fact is - ( these are attractive girls around 20) women have TONS of social value they get hit up online all the time and stuff, and they do not have the same standards of reliability and manners ( this is not hating on them, just like how things work socially imo) so like I do need to"game" them a bit to have them value my time and be responsive.
That being said : I think several of the women who came to my club, were interested in dating me, but I tried to platonically build the club and have them be a part of it, and they became super unreliable and basically fizzled out of existence in my life. I think in the future, I am just going to be a lot more aggressive and aim to date them as much as I can. I won't be in the school much longer, I don't like it much, socially it's not been great. May as well just take risks and aim to date the girls.
Another point on myself : I am a bit afraid to date. Like let me admit it.
My backstory: I was over a year P AND MO free - I was dating two girls. One of them I drove away as the addiction was coming back and was showing up in our interactions. She knew about my issue. So that ended.
Around the same time - the other girl did something and I felt my life was destroyed. It really sucked and harmed my family life. This was about September 2021. It rocked everything. It was horrible. But then it got WAY worse about a year ago. I became suicidal, like for real. Even went to the hospital once After being suicidal for some weeks - I relapsed, worse then ever. Gained weight, lost some of my good habits and gained something of a worse temper. It sucked. Like it has been a lot regaining some of my old habits and confidence and everything. Like I was constantly stressed.
But anyways - I get PIED. And the lapses and like idk all sorts of things and anxieties now I feel like it feels " so far away" dating again, bringing women home and things. I have been there before and it sucked. Plus -I feel like I am wasting time.
Anyways - I am glad I finally wrote this hear... it was on my chest I guess.
I think something I have been doing to is like avoiding real dating and setting my expectations as a fantasy. So - anyways, I am like scared of dating again and feel like odd about fitting women in my life.
ALSO - I got some medicine - which has really helped but I am like ashamed of bringing girls home or people finding out I am now taking anti anxiety med and a mild adhd med ( honestly both have been very helpful and I prob needed the adhd one long ago - it is a non stimulant)