Advice on the best path to recovery

[theway1002]

I relapsed yesterday. I'm definitely an extreme case and will likely need a long time to recover from PIED. After reading this forum for similar cases, I simply need to do the following to recover:

Abstain from all sex, porn, social media for 3-5 years without a single relapse. Is this correct?

 

[Gabe Deem]

A reboot is only abstaining from artificial sexual stimulation (i.e. porn), and there is no set time for recovery, as everyone is different.

Whether or not individuals have sex, masturbate without porn, and use non-sexual social media, is up to each individual to decide.

Also, many have lapsed/relapsed many times and still recovered.

Lastly, no one can give you a for sure answer. If you haven’t already I highly recommend seeing a doctor who can help you professionally.

 

[theway1002]

A reboot is only abstaining from artificial sexual stimulation (i.e. porn), and there is no set time for recovery, as everyone is different.

Whether or not individuals have sex, masturbate without porn, and use non-sexual social media, is up to each individual to decide.

Also, many have lapsed/relapsed many times and still recovered.

Lastly, no one can give you a for sure answer. If you haven’t already I highly recommend seeing a doctor who can help you professionally.

Thank you. On your last point, what exactly is a doctor going to do for me? There doesn't seem to be any medical acknowledgement of PIED.

 

[Red Moon]

I relapsed yesterday. I'm definitely an extreme case and will likely need a long time to recover from PIED. After reading this forum for similar cases, I simply need to do the following to recover:

Abstain from all sex, porn, social media for 3-5 years without a single relapse. Is this correct?

I am in the " Flatline " for 37 months and counting with no end in sight. So...nobody knows how long does it take to make a full reboot. Everyone is different.

 

[theway1002]

I am in the " Flatline " for 37 months and counting with no end in sight. So...nobody knows how long does it take to make a full reboot. Everyone is different.

A flatline of 3 years and counting? Lol, that's beyond fucked. Life is so fucking cruel holy shit.

 

[Scorpio1990]

I am in the " Flatline " for 37 months and counting with no end in sight. So...nobody knows how long does it take to make a full reboot. Everyone is different.

I saw your previous post. Have your PAWs symptoms improve? Definitely keep updating us.

 

[Red Moon]

I saw your previous post. Have your PAWs symptoms improve? Definitely keep updating us.

I still have all the " Flatline " symptoms :

- No libido
- Genital numbness & shrinkage ( lack of blood flow )
- Penis feels disconnected from body

I also have other symptoms, such as anhedonia/emotional numbness, lack of motivation, insomnia, brain fog.

If my " Flatline " ends, i will write a post. There are few records of long " Flatlines ".

Cheers.

 

[Scorpio1990]

I still have all the " Flatline " symptoms :

- No libido
- Genital numbness & shrinkage ( lack of blood flow )
- Penis feels disconnected from body

I also have other symptoms, such as anhedonia/emotional numbness, lack of motivation, insomnia, brain fog.

If my " Flatline " ends, i will write a post. There are few records of long " Flatlines ".

Cheers.

Thanks for the response, how have you handled all this? I’m trying to stay positive about my recovery journey. I know everyone is different but idk if I’ll be in your position down the road. The Rewiring thing I don’t really get cause if your in a flatline and feeling emotionally numb how can someone make you come out of it. Orgasm with woman feels like it hasn’t done anything.

 

[Red Moon]

Thanks for the response, how have you handled all this? I’m trying to stay positive about my recovery journey. I know everyone is different but idk if I’ll be in your position down the road. The Rewiring thing I don’t really get cause if your in a flatline and feeling emotionally numb how can someone make you come out of it. Orgasm with woman feels like it hasn’t done anything.

It´s not easy, the emotional numbness makes everything harder, i´m living the same day over and over. Waiting for a day that never arrives. My subjective experience has no taste.

The only tools to recovery in this context are willpower and understanding the science of porn/ brain and hope for brain homeostasis.

I also share the opinion that " Rewiring " during the " Flatline " makes no sense. It´s like eating non stop in order to lose weight. If you ask people why their " Flatline " ended, the only honest answer is : " I don´t know " . The physical state of your brain makes that decision for you, what we can do is avoid dopamine spikes ( PMO or drugs ) and do everything in our power to improve sleep quality, and other obvious things.

Sexual drive is innate, it has to return, eventually.

 

[Scorpio1990]

It´s not easy, the emotional numbness makes everything harder, i´m living the same day over and over. Waiting for a day that never arrives. My subjective experience has no taste.

The only tools to recovery in this context are willpower and understanding the science of porn/ brain and hope for brain homeostasis.

I also share the opinion that " Rewiring " during the " Flatline " makes no sense. It´s like eating non stop in order to lose weight. If you ask people why their " Flatline " ended, the only honest answer is : " I don´t know " . The physical state of your brain makes that decision for you, what we can do is avoid dopamine spikes ( PMO or drugs ) and do everything in our power to improve sleep quality, and other obvious things.

Sexual drive is innate, it has to return, eventually.

I appreciate your honesty, I’m starting to realize that it isn’t easy. The emotional numbness is torture and depression hits hard. I don’t care about my sex drive. I want my old self back. I truly lost myself even thought I had that will power since I gone through many things in my life but this is debilitating. I tried to Rewiring but I only just felt numb and after orgasm I felt worse. I don’t do drink or don’t do drug. So I’m just trying to be patient but man. This is hell. Thanks