Depression-Anhedonia-Flatline

Scorpio1990

Active Member
Never in my life have I felt so vulnerable. I feel so alone and empty. I know a lot us go through it. It’s just so difficult to keep going specially not having hope or motivation. The lack of pleasure is the worst symptom. It’s hard on the mind and body. I still struggle with insomnia and no appetite. I thought it was getting better but feels worse. I have insecurities which I never had and mood swings. A lot of people who go don’t go through withdrawals don’t understand what most of us don’t go through but it’s definitely hard on us on daily basis. I’m was never negative person until now. I got the support I need but doesn’t have much of a effect on me. Just venting.
 
Never in my life have I felt so vulnerable. I feel so alone and empty. I know a lot us go through it. It’s just so difficult to keep going specially not having hope or motivation. The lack of pleasure is the worst symptom. It’s hard on the mind and body. I still struggle with insomnia and no appetite. I thought it was getting better but feels worse. I have insecurities which I never had and mood swings. A lot of people who go don’t go through withdrawals don’t understand what most of us don’t go through but it’s definitely hard on us on daily basis. I’m was never negative person until now. I got the support I need but doesn’t have much of a effect on me. Just venting.

That has nothing to do with having used pornography in the past. There are other underlying problems in you. I think we have already mentioned it to you several times here. I left porn years ago and my life has been very normal. Quitting porn can affect the state of his sexual desire sometimes in the first 90 days, however, after all is normal in the mind.

If if you have depression that is another thing that has nothing to do with pmo in the past.

The first 3 months you may feel that the libido is not ideal, then everything normalizes. I have never believed that quitting porn causes depression in the long run. If you have depression I am sure there are other problems in you that have nothing to do with the Internet porn you used in the past.
 

Scorpio1990

Active Member
That has nothing to do with having used pornography in the past. There are other underlying problems in you. I think we have already mentioned it to you several times here. I left porn years ago and my life has been very normal. Quitting porn can affect the state of his sexual desire sometimes in the first 90 days, however, after all is normal in the mind.

If if you have depression that is another thing that has nothing to do with pmo in the past.

The first 3 months you may feel that the libido is not ideal, then everything normalizes. I have never believed that quitting porn causes depression in the long run. If you have depression I am sure there are other problems in you that have nothing to do with the Internet porn you used in the past.
Dude you know nothing, you cant just assume everyone heals like you. Don’t respond. I never had depression until I quit. Just cause it was easy for you to get through withdrawals doesn’t mean everyone else has the same recovery time as you.
 
Dude you know nothing, you cant just assume everyone heals like you. Don’t respond. I never had depression until I quit. Just cause it was easy for you to get through withdrawals doesn’t mean everyone else has the same recovery time as you.
Enjoy your life. Life is one. Remember that we will not return to the world once we die. Do you plan to spend the rest of your youth complaining about how bored you feel? That's ridiculous. Get a job, learn a sport, enjoy a partner, travel, dance, read, sow, study, work, laugh, cry, get depressed, THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF LIFE. THE ESSENCE OF LIFE IS IN ITS SOUR AND SWEET CHARACTER AT THE SAME TIME. How much I would like you to live here in my country so that you know what it means to value life and so that you know how difficult and sad it is to live in a third world and underdeveloped country like mine. But of course: I believe that you must live in a developed country.

You already stopped the addiction to pornography. Done, great, get over it and forget about it forever. Life will go on. Will it be pink? Of course not. But at least you've already managed to create the habit of not using porn. That is great. But quitting pornography doesn't mean life is going to be rosy. That is ridiculous my friend. Forget about the withdrawal issue. YOU ARE NO LONGER IN ANY RETREAT. You have to learn to have personality from now that you are young and not get carried away by the Absurd Hypochondria of the things you read here. Always learn from a young age to read with a critical sense everything that passes through your eyes. It seems to me that the problem is that you are still very young and you lack character.
 
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Never in my life have I felt so vulnerable. I feel so alone and empty. I know a lot us go through it. It’s just so difficult to keep going specially not having hope or motivation. The lack of pleasure is the worst symptom. It’s hard on the mind and body. I still struggle with insomnia and no appetite. I thought it was getting better but feels worse. I have insecurities which I never had and mood swings. A lot of people who go don’t go through withdrawals don’t understand what most of us don’t go through but it’s definitely hard on us on daily basis. I’m was never negative person until now. I got the support I need but doesn’t have much of a effect on me. Just venting.
How old were you when you started PMO?

No matter how young you started, at this moment it is time for you to be in a phase in which instead of being aware of your state of mind, you rather make sense of projecting your future and your life.

I recommend this publication. It is very famous and old but very valuable at the same time. I think it would help you a lot to see if you finally change a bit even if it is that mentality that you have taken with all this story of the restart. I recommend it. READ IT ALL UNTIL THE END AND I HOPE IT HELPS YOU AT LEAST A LITTLE SO THAT YOU LEAVE THAT TOXIC ATTITUDE WITH YOURSELF.




Please, this is very important to understand, you have to stop blaming porn for your problems.

This mentality of "life awaits me after recovery" is destructive.

Porn is not the reason you're a procrastinator. Porn is not the reason you're depressed. Porn is not the reason you're lonely. Porn is not the reason you haven't been able to lose weight or gain muscle.

Porn is the symptom.

You watch porn to escape reality. You watch porn to manage your emotions. You watch porn because you're bored, lonely, stressed, depressed, angry, isolated. You watch porn to feel good for a moment, to replace uncomfortable emotions and situations in your life.

Here's how you get rid of this addiction:

You don't focus on quitting porn so you can finally get to live life after you're recovered.

You focus on learning how to live, how to manage your emotions, how to change the way you think and view the world.

You put all your energy into building the life you want.

This will naturally lead your mind away from porn.


Success is not measured by how many clean days you've managed.

It's measured by how much your life has improved since you started rebooting.
 
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@pornfreesme
For clarity, for my sake, are you saying that quitting porn does not induce or contribute to depression?

It seems to me that staying in these forums reading thousands of things and comparing yourself with others can lead you to that state as is happening to @Scorpio1990

If I had been clean for 6 months I would leave this forum forever and go on with my life, the truth is that these forums should only be used by people for 90 days and then people should continue with their lives.

Staying here can be counterproductive for some people, as is the case by @Scorpio1990.
 
@KetchupDrool

I recommend the post I sent you, it's called "my thoughts on the reboot". It was written a long time ago by a user who belonged to the YBR forum. Here above this thread is the Link. I recommend it to you too
 
@pornfreesme

Nice post you recommended, a great read. However, you still haven't answered my previous question above.

I am only left to assume you don't believe that depression is a side effect of quitting porn?
 
Nice post you recommended, a great read. However, you still haven't answered my previous question above.

I am only left to assume you don't believe that depression is a side effect of quitting porn?

Okay. I already answer your question here:

Years of reviewing these forums, and years of therapists and health professionals caring for people that this becomes a problem for them (I mean using a lot of porn all day and practically every day) affirm that this content can cause depression.

In these forums we have been seeing that people even feel depressed after stopping use, however, anecdotal evidence from these forums at the same time confirms how one of the first symptoms that people manage to overcome after several months is depression. . Erectile dysfunction is the most difficult to cure, for what has been seen in recent years in the literature of these forums. It is not that PIED (Erectile Dysfunction due to Pornography and masturbation many many masturbation) is totally incurable, but the evidence is showing us that it takes a long time to heal, even many times more than 6 years go by and PIED still does not heal completely. The question that remains here is: underlying problems perhaps in these men? Who knows. Maybe yes or maybe no. We don't know yet for sure.

But back to the topic of depression:

Withdrawal depression is temporary but usually does not exceed the first 3 months. Of course there is a very high chance that kicking a habit as strong as this (I mean PMO) will cause some season of depression in men. However, this is one of the symptoms that tends to disappear faster. That's good. I am saying this based on the years that I have been reading posts in these forums. It will be almost 10 years now checking recovery forums and trying to quit porn too just like all you my friends.

Now, making this clear, let's analyze the case of our friend @Scorpio1990 here:

If you look at his posts, he has improved, he has left the PMO, however, I see in his posts that he is too obsessed reading many other posts here and comparing himself to the progress of others. Last night I was reviewing all of our friend's posts and what I can conclude is that his depression is being caused by everything he reads in these forums, he spends a lot of time in them and is letting himself be carried away by a certain "hypochondria" if we could call it that . That is the reason why he feels depressed even after 6 months of overcoming his PMO habit.

That is the reason why, always in these forums, I have been advising men to try to live their process of leaving pornography away from comparing themselves with others. Spending too much time in these forums is also counterproductive. I'm not saying leave the forum forever. Of course not. But what I try to advise men is not to live just to obsess over the REBOOTING. Life is much more than being aware of how many days I have been without PMO, how many morning woods I feel per week, how many erections I feel per day, how depressed I feel today, how much libido I feel today from dawn to dusk, etc... .. All this, is to be aware of nonsense guys. Really.


Conclusion:

Leaving PMO is quite a challenge. However, in my opinion, it would be much easier if you didn't focus so much on this and instead focused on the rest of how wonderful life is.

Keep a journal here, but don't log in here every day.

Share your experiences with others here, but please, if you see that reading posts from others here depress you, it means that this place is not for you for your health and it is better in that case that you leave here or that try to log in very few times here. This last one goes to you my friend @Scorpio1990
 
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R Green

Member
Amigo, no sabes nada, no puedes simplemente asumir que todos sanan como tú. No respondas. Nunca tuve depresión hasta que dejé de fumar. El hecho de que haya sido fácil para usted superar los retiros no significa que todos los demás tengan el mismo tiempo de recuperación que usted.
Te entiendo.mi retiro a Sido un poco difícil también.y más si hemos tenido sexo con nuestras parejas.hace poco tube sexo sin orgasmo espero no care nuevamente en una línea plana y los efectos de la
abstinencia
 
Never in my life have I felt so vulnerable. I feel so alone and empty. I know a lot us go through it. It’s just so difficult to keep going specially not having hope or motivation. The lack of pleasure is the worst symptom. It’s hard on the mind and body. I still struggle with insomnia and no appetite. I thought it was getting better but feels worse. I have insecurities which I never had and mood swings. A lot of people who go don’t go through withdrawals don’t understand what most of us don’t go through but it’s definitely hard on us on daily basis. I’m was never negative person until now. I got the support I need but doesn’t have much of a effect on me. Just venting.

I understand, Scorpio. I am one month out since last consuming porn. In the last 30 days, I have wanted to cry, not get out of bed, not eat. I even called the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline this past Monday because I was feeling so terrible. I do attribute part of my symptoms to PAWS and Flatline, especially the lack of motivation and inability to think clearly. I also feel guilt for putting my wife through an emotional roller coaster, which added some pressure, but I am trying to be kind to myself. This week, I took up journaling, which felt like a release valve for my depressive thoughts and made me feel better right away. I increased meditation to twenty minutes per morning, and I forced myself to exercise even when I didn't want to. This week, I had sex to O with my wife on Tuesday, but lost my erection when trying again last night because I had very little feeling. It's still scary and alarming, but I do feel that sticking with the journey will be worth it in the end. Let me know how you're doing.
 
Dude you know nothing, you cant just assume everyone heals like you. Don’t respond. I never had depression until I quit. Just cause it was easy for you to get through withdrawals doesn’t mean everyone else has the same recovery time as you.
Yes that's true. Some one year they have not seen changes some 3 months they start seeing changes. Do just keep pushing and stop anticipating for results. Look for results might drag you back there.
 

Scorpio1990

Active Member
I understand, Scorpio. I am one month out since last consuming porn. In the last 30 days, I have wanted to cry, not get out of bed, not eat. I even called the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline this past Monday because I was feeling so terrible. I do attribute part of my symptoms to PAWS and Flatline, especially the lack of motivation and inability to think clearly. I also feel guilt for putting my wife through an emotional roller coaster, which added some pressure, but I am trying to be kind to myself. This week, I took up journaling, which felt like a release valve for my depressive thoughts and made me feel better right away. I increased meditation to twenty minutes per morning, and I forced myself to exercise even when I didn't want to. This week, I had sex to O with my wife on Tuesday, but lost my erection when trying again last night because I had very little feeling. It's still scary and alarming, but I do feel that sticking with the journey will be worth it in the end. Let me know how you're doing.
Hey man, just keep going. I definitely have my highs and lows. Suicidal thoughts come and go. The Anhedonia definitely feels so overwhelming. This is a process I have come to terms with. It’s definitely been tough. What I have learned abstaining definitely helps with erection quality. Definitely keep this in mind and learn from my mistakes, try to keep your emotions calm and don’t try to over think with your wife because it can definitely take a toll on her. I have been learning that with my gf and I she’s at a breaking point. I start having mood swings and my anxiety drives me to over think, react curtain ways when I shouldn’t. I’m not bad mouthing or anything but start to assume. My personality has definitely changed and I hate it. Stay strong man and hopefully your wife is understanding. I just don’t understand how people don’t believe this crap causes major depressive disorder during withdrawals. You got this. Hopefully your recovery is quick.
 

Scorpio1990

Active Member
Te entiendo.mi retiro a Sido un poco difícil también.y más si hemos tenido sexo con nuestras parejas.hace poco tube sexo sin orgasmo espero no care nuevamente en una línea plana y los efectos de la
abstinencia
Come te sientes? Tubiste sexo con la novia? O con otra? Yo se que sexo no me affecta mucho como antes en la linea plana. Tube sexo con una mujer y fue bien. Pero sigo en la linea plana.
 

R Green

Member
Come te sientes? ¿Tuviste sexo con la novia? O con otra? Yo se que sexo no me afecta mucho como antes en la linea plana. Tube sexo con una mujer y fue bien. Pero sigo en la linea plana.
Ya estoy hablando con ella nuevamente volvió,pensé que no volvería.me dijo que no quiere estar con otra persona que no sea yo.le explique que debemos evitar los orgasmos.tuvimos una noche romántica y apasionada frente al mar.tuvimos relaciones sin orgasmos hace 5 días y no me sentí mal.hoy se quedará en mi casa.llevo más de 100 días desde mi última recaída.desde que descubrí información de esta condición no quise saber más de pmo.el porno me hiso mucho daño,ya no quiero saber más del porno ni de masturbación.solo chicas reales.mantente fuerte y ten una actitud positiva,mucha fuerza de voluntad,meditación,ejercicio,pasatiempos y tener una vida ocupada.tadavia siento un poco de anciedad y problemas para dormir,pero ya pasé la parte más difícil.hace como un mes tube orgasmos y volví a una línea plana con síntomas de abstinencia que duro como dos semanas,hoy me siento mejor aunque no estoy curado completamente.
 
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