Unbusting my balls

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 70/90

I worked to have more structure today than yesterday, and I did. Although it wasn't as much as I had hoped for. I'm feeling urges in the evening and at night. I think these are also related to the feeling of not having been as productive as expected. I feel like experiencing disappointment is a trigger for me, or atleast a negative emotion I try to suffocate with PMO. I think this is what I need to continue to meditate on above all else. I'm looking forward to making my peace with that. As it stands, PMO provides me with a peace and contentedness I haven't found elsewhere consistently. Once I achieve that, the desire to PMO should diminish or cease altogether.

Onwards.

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”Ό- Meditate.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- 9h22
 

Blondie

Respected Member
Nice job today having more structure @BrassBalls707. I too feel that's one of the biggest things in getting over this habit, is by having other things to do to fill your time with. Is there any hobbies that you engage in or career path that could bring you that peace and contentedness that PMO brings? I have a few passions, mostly in line with my career goals at the moment, that have tremendously helped me out these last six years since I've been more or less clean. However, none of these have that "high" or momentary contentment that PMO has, but I've learned to be okay with that for the most part, though I have my moments of dissatisfaction some days. I think that's been one of the hardest things for me on this journey, that is, to make the transition from PMO highs to normal and healthy long term highs. One is short term and outright insane in its temporary sensations and pleasure, but afterwards, bringing its utter destruction and feelings of shame, while the other brings true confidence and strength, but it has yet to be as exhilarating in the moment day by day.

I've been reading a book called Atomic Habits and it's been getting at the heart of this problem. Check it out if you've never read it before. It's an easy read so far.

Best
Blondie
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 71/90

I had an excellent morning, exercises etc and spent my entire day busy, but I didn't spend enough effort on gratitude journaling and meditation. I hope to get that right tomorrow. I also had my phone closeby for too long, and didn't put it away when I should have. I had no urges today though so that's fortunate.

Changes:
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ πŸ”½- Meditate.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- 10h27
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Is there any hobbies that you engage in or career path that could bring you that peace and contentedness that PMO brings?

Yeah, I do believe I have two hobbies that qualify. I think I'm just so stuck on believing my value is determinded by academic and professional success that nothing I do seems to change my self worth. I'm desperate for my self worth to be intrinsic. In the moments I understand this, I am truly satisfied, but these feel like mere glimpses. These moments are frighteningly temporary. I think this has to do with what people (parents, family, friends) tell me about how they understand life, and I internalize these admonishments like expectations placed upon me. Expectations I'm not motivated or inclined to live up to. This is how it's always been for me. The term "learned helplessness" comes to mind.

Furthermore, I'm bouncing between the ideas that these disproportionate feelings of guilt and shame are the result of different things. I mean to say that I think my desire for peace and contentedness is not of a lack of fulfilling hobbies. Those unfulfilled expectations I have seem to trigger some unresolved traumatic response that paralyzes me, pulling the rug out from under me. Or, they are caused by my own abilities (emotional processing) and this is a normal human experience I can't deal with. In either case, something feels broken and I imagine PMO was some kind of bandaid that's been ripped off. Now the wound seems to be airing out, it's exposed and despite having the curatives necessary I can't seem to use them to their full effect. Like I am getting in their way. It feels like a meaningless suffering because after each period I feel better or normal, I inevitably sink back to how I felt before. Am I simply not learning my lesson? Is it my fault for falling into some pattern?

It's always these ups and downs, which you've talked about before and I accept and understand that in life but nothing is changing long term for me (I'll think more on this, because that can't be true, right?). This has been consistent in the past 4 years. The only difference is, I recently swore off porn and am mindful of my technology use. These are good things and have given me the opportunity to address it all like I am now. It just feels so overwhelming and terrible. I imagine the benefits thereof will require more time to show themselves.

Know that I am grateful for your messages because they (in)directly give me a lot of valuable things to think about, in addition to giving me hope for the future.

I have a few passions, mostly in line with my career goals at the moment, that have tremendously helped me out these last six years since I've been more or less clean.
You raise a compelling idea. I have two passions of which I am in a position in to make a career of (at least a hustle). I think I should give these more thought as well. I often get in my own way, through overthinking and the paradox of choice, or not being confident in my abilities (lots of experience with failure). Like I disqualify myself without even giving anything an honest shot o_O. How did you personally line up passions with career goals? Did the passions come first and then the career goals, or the other way around?

to make the transition from PMO highs to normal and healthy long term highs. One is short term and outright insane in its temporary sensations and pleasure, but afterwards, bringing its utter destruction and feelings of shame, while the other brings true confidence and strength, but it has yet to be as exhilarating in the moment day by day.
I agree. I am chasing a baseline or 'balance' in sensations and pleasure, mostly stimulating that peace and contentedness. Videogames, substances like weed and alcohol, PMO... Any and all of the low-hanging fruit or easy fixes. I think for me, my largest challenge will be moderating my reaction and use of common sources of pleasure. Now, I tend to feel paranoid at the prospect of hanging out with friends or going to a party. I think: "What if I get offered alcohol?" or "What if we want to play videogames?". Nowadays I even get anxious about meeting women because it may keep my PMO triggers 'alive'. How do you personnally react to opportunities for short term pleasure? I'm not talking about anything sexual per se, but also activities or substances that provide an artifical pleasure.

I've been reading a book called Atomic Habits and it's been getting at the heart of this problem. Check it out if you've never read it before. It's an easy read so far.
I've downloaded the book to my ereader. I'm getting into it today, thanks for the recommendation.
 
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Blondie

Respected Member
You raise a compelling idea. I have two passions of which I am in a position in to make a career of (at least a hustle). I think I should give these more thought as well. I often get in my own way, through overthinking and the paradox of choice, or not being confident in my abilities (lots of experience with failure). Like I disqualify myself without even giving anything an honest shot o_O. How did you personally line up passions with career goals? Did the passions come first and then the career goals, or the other way around?
Hi @BrassBalls707, I get this. I believe it's pretty common and quite human to get in our way at times, I know I sure can, so don't be too hard on yourself. I know for me, it often can be an ego thing, where you have such high expectations of yourself (or from others) that all you can see is your grand goals and outcomes and being the "best" at something (an external success), thus, you almost quit before you begin because you're so far away from the outcome, or you burn yourself out going balls to the wall for a few weeks and then quit. It's very much an either or mentality, which can be really dangerous for any kind of growth. These are mentalities that I've struggled with at times, but I do feel I've made some progress this last year or so.

The thing I like about that book is the discussion about making 1% improvements day by day, and thinking what would my ideal self do today, and not getting caught up on the end goal as much. You'll never get to your destination if you don't walk the road everyday. I really love the idea of compound interest because it's true and easy to see. It works with money, and it definitely WILL work for life as well.

How I got to my career choice has happened by chance and necessity, eventually you just have to choose something, and get working. It is my passion (or one of them) but it's also a means to make a living, thus, it fulfills two goals of mine. I recently just choose it again, because I was wavering between it and something else for a few months, but have decided to go all in now. I think a real problem with many of us today, is that we have too many choices before us, and it makes all of us very unhappy. So much of self-confidence comes from being capable at something and knowing it really well, but you can't do that unless you commit yourself to it, and go in all the way. The reality of life is that you can only do and experience so many things. We addicts (post addicts) don't like that truth very much.
How do you personnally react to opportunities for short term pleasure? I'm not talking about anything sexual per se, but also activities or substances that provide an artifical pleasure.
That's a good question. My lady and I have really made a big change in our drinking habits over the last four months, and it's made a great change in our life. We were never alcoholics, but we were drinking far too much and too regularly for our taste, and so we decided to severely cut back on it a while ago. At the moment, we only drink about twice a month but definitely have a grand time when we do so. For us, this worked, because we didn't want to give it up, we just wanted to be in control again, and still let back once in a while. However, that's me, everyone has to approach this in their own truth. If it's really a problem for you, or, if it increases your chances of relapse, then maybe it's best to stay away for a while, until you get this figured out. My big relapse last year happened because of alcohol, or at least, that was one of the determining factors. So yes, I get it. Whatever you decide, choose the road of you being in charge.

Best
 
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BrassBalls707

Active Member
Reporting for 13, 14, and 15/11

Day 72, 73 and 74/90

I'm making a half-assed bulk report because I've been neglecting everything and don't want to keep that up. I haven't been journaling, I haven't been meditating, I've been on social media more... I threw myself into hobbies at the start of this week and didn't let up. Much like with PMO, my engagement with them is completely out of proportion. It's gotten to the point that it's at the cost of other, more important activities.

This is a pattern I've fallen into before, but I'm glad it's without PMO and substances. Among other things, I need to think about this form of escapism.

I experienced more urges than usual, undoubtedly because of the aforementioned. It's important I don't get caught up in extremes and focus on making small changes consistently. I need to stop acting and be more conscious of what I spend time on. I trust this is an ADD related issue.

Onwards.

Changes:
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- Put phone out of sight.
🟠⏬- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸ”΄β¬- Meditate.
🟠⏬- Gratitude journaling.
🟠⏬- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- 9h14, 5h49, --
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Reporting for 16 and 17/11

Day 75 and 76/90

I don't even know where to start, doing bad on all fronts. I need a sit-down desperately, like I used to do the first month. I stopped taking it seriously, spending all my time on hobbies and activities with friends instead. I feel stuck, depressed and ashamed. I'm not using any of the solutions I've articulated for myself. Gratitude journaling, meditation, limiting gaming and hobbies, reflection... None of it. It's downright goofy. I find my lack of effort laughable. I got complacent, I believed I could let the reigns go a little bit. Big mistake. I don't get to do that yet. Tomorrow is a new day. I'm spending most of it thinking, instead of 'doing'. There's a benefit to taking the time to sort my overwhelming thoughts out. It helps me find order in the chaos. I want to stop distracting myself from it. I have to or I won't make it anywhere. Not past PMO, not past other concerns. At least I've been staying off alcohol but instead I've been compromising my motivation with a lack of sleep.

Onwards.


Changes:
🟒⏫- Put phone out of sight.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸ”΄β¬- Meditate.
🟠⏺️- Gratitude journaling.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ πŸ”½- --, 6h50
 

PrometheusUnbound

Active Member
Hi @BrassBalls707 I have some similar patterns. Sometimes when I get out of sync I cut down the list of required Changes to one and focus on that for the week so it feels like I have achieved something rather than having a list of things that I didn't do. So on your journal you would have a baseline green circle that you could build upon rather that the red caterpillar of shame. Just a thought. All the best.
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Hi @BrassBalls707 I have some similar patterns. Sometimes when I get out of sync I cut down the list of required Changes to one and focus on that for the week so it feels like I have achieved something rather than having a list of things that I didn't do. So on your journal you would have a baseline green circle that you could build upon rather that the red caterpillar of shame. Just a thought. All the best.

Red caterpillar of shame πŸ˜‚

I understand what you mean. I'm still experimenting with it to see what works for me. I can see how a daily confrontation with it can have adverse effects. I'm not sure if that is what slowed down my stride. I'm going to think more on it.
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Reporting for 18 and 19/11

Day 77 and 78/90

I found a productivity app with many bits and bobs that have to potential to help motivate me and 'check-in'. Setting daily, weekly, monthly and yearly goals is something I want for myself, but I've never made any steps towards them. Depending on how that goes I may stop tracking my 'changes' below and switch over to the app entirely. This would also allow me to better focus on PMO-related things here.

Speaking of, I've had triggering content forced down my throat. I don't understand how YouTube ads are allowed to include scantily dressed women or AI chatting apps that focus entirely on sexting or erotic roleplay. In any case, I can't ignore these without paying for a monthly subscription, so I've decided to remove YouTube from my phone altogether. This sucks, but it's a meaningful concession to make in the context of reducing relapse to an addiction. I worry that by the time I get rid of everything which has a bad influence on me, I will be a hermit living in the woods.

Onwards.


Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό - Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
🟑⏫- Meditate.
🟒⏫- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- 9h42, 10h35
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 79/90

Very proud of myself today. I took my medication as soon as possible after I woke up, and despite waking up early with a sleep deficit, I hit pretty much every target I had set. By comparison, spending more time on leisure is fine. I watched a movie and experienced some urges, but I caught them on time. I had my phone closer today because I was expecting a call and this triggered me as well. The productivity app I installed is working well. I am spending more time on my phone as a result, BUT it's time spent on scheduling and organizing so I welcome it.

Feeling fulfilled, charged even. Yet, I'm still dealing with anxiety towards rather mundane things. I may be missing something, but I'm not sure what yet. In any case

Onwards.

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Meditate.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Gratitude journaling.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- 6h30
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 80, 81 and 82/90

I've been focusing on the productivity app and other things and it's mostly kept me from experiencing or entertaining PMO urges. Moments of spending time without structure or purpose are a big trigger. For that reason, I'm hoping to spend more time on structured activities. @Blondie I've began reading that book you recommended, Atomic Habits. It's motivating me to make at least one positive change, no matter how small after I'm already spent and ready to throw in the towel.

Godspeed and onwards.

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
🟑⏺️ - Morning and bedtime routines.
🟒⏺️- Meditate.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- Gratitude journaling.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- 11h47, 5h4, 8h52
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 83/90

Continuing to grind one step at a time, mostly using the productivity app as a planner. I'm still figuring out the optimal way to engage myself. It's days like these that give me hope for becoming who I want to be.

Regarding PMO, I've noticed that it's simply P begging my attention. It makes sense, it's the artifical thing that doesn't fit the picture. Unfortunately, this extends to other artifical activities as well. Distancing myself from those seems to have positive effects on my experience with rebooting.

I'm still struggling with finding healthy alternatives, knowing that they require time to become habitual. For example, an important source of oxytocin for me is interacting with people in third spaces. Formerly, I got a partial oxytocin fix through PMO. My closest, most comfortable third space requires me to commute for more than half an hour so I don't visit it more than twice a week. The alternative (staying home) is therefore much more likely and frequent (and so is the risk of PMO!). As a result, I'm most often at a deficit of this important hormone. I've put in effort in seeking and visiting third spaces so I believe this is mostly a societal problem. That is to say, it's hard for me around here to find places nearby for free, informal social interaction. I live in a well-connected city, so it's depressing to imagine what other places are like. In any case, this is something I can be grateful for (gratitude journal!).

Perhaps - despite no longer being a student - I should visit public spaces frequented by students. At least then I won't feel as stuck at home and have the opportunity for social interaction. I may try to involve some friends so it doesn't feel as strange as I think it will by myself. It could become a weekly thing, something more to look forward to?

Onwards.

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Meditate.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Gratitude journaling.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- 9h41
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 84/90

Another bright day. I gamified more targets, some amongst the 'changes' listed below. To make a previous thought concrete, I'm going to stop tracking those if I can go a full week with each one in the yellow or higher. That should provide me with more motivation to spend my time more consciously.

No PMO urges whatsoever. That flatline is scary but a good sign. Almost at one fucking hundred days of not busting my dick and balls like a mindless chimp. I think it's about time to think about a reward of some sort for myself. Suggestions welcome πŸ‘½

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Meditate.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸŸ πŸ”Ό- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- 10h23
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Reporting for 26/11

Day 85/90

Tremendous backslide, I caught this fastball however. We're kicking up the dust the day after.
I didn't hit many of my targets (although I hit some which I am satisfied with). My largest mistake was to schedule my day around an exercise activity in the evening, in addition to not setting a clear timeframe for myself to socialize afterward at my third place of choice. As a result, I got home quite late, had no structure and did whatever until the clock ticked 2AM and dread struck me since I had to wake up 6 hours later.

On a good note, I experienced no urges for PMO and realize more and more that when I do think about it on the off chance, my reflex is: "Watching porn is the last thing I should do right now, let alone beat my shit." This is massive. I'm enjoying the afterglow of those two months of rope-pulling with myself. Resisting comes so much easier.

@Blondie you mentioned Atomic Habits and I've started reading it bit by bit. I'm very glad you did recommend it, it was the push I needed to continue making small changes - no matter how infinitesimal -. Now, it almost feels like while I am developing body (exercise), mind (meditiations) and soul (creativity), it is also making rebooting easier. The feelings of purposelessness and despair that are associated with addictions (especially PMO) from a lack of the aforementioned, are fading. I'm due some heavy reflection surrounding my future self, much in line with the topic of "identity" discussed in the book. In any case, I believe Atomic Habits should be a mandatory read for rebooters.

Changes:
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½ - Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- Meditate.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- -- 6h or less
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 86/90

We makin' it out the forums with this one πŸ‘Œ:cool:.
Despite the disorienting sleep deficit, I tanked the day. I am satisfied. One urge because of a trigger from watching a youtube video. I simply closed it. It was a good reminder I could be doing other things with my time.

On to the next. Up, up and away.

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Meditate.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ πŸ”½- -- 6h or less
 
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BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 87/90

Going through the motions. No urges. No PMO.

Onwards.

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Meditate.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- 7h13
 

BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 88/90

No urges, no PMO. Been going out a bit too often and getting back home late. It's a struggle still to manage my evenings. It's getting in the way of my desire to rearrange my sleep.

Onwards.

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ‘πŸ”½- Meditate.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ πŸ”Ό- 9h57
 
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BrassBalls707

Active Member
Day 89/90

No PMO. I experienced some urges when going through Pinterest for inspiration for a costumed party. It started feeding me images of people in overtly suggestive poses. I can't have that shit around me man... The backslide is so easily made...

I calibrated myself, stopped wasting time looking around at it. Going to bed early. Fuck that noise.

Onwards.

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Meditate.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ‘πŸ”Ό- 9h07
 

tay97

Active Member
Day 89/90

No PMO. I experienced some urges when going through Pinterest for inspiration for a costumed party. It started feeding me images of people in overtly suggestive poses. I can't have that shit around me man... The backslide is so easily made...

I calibrated myself, stopped wasting time looking around at it. Going to bed early. Fuck that noise.

Onwards.

Changes:
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Put phone out of sight.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Morning and bedtime routines.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Meditate.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Gratitude journaling.
πŸŸ’πŸ”Ό- Reduce gaming to a maximum of one hour per day.
πŸ”΄πŸ”½- Reflect on my relationship with videogames, porn, medication or sleep.

Sleep duration:
πŸŸ‘πŸ”Ό- 9h07
Strong man!
 
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