Is it okay to MO without porn?

[Clouds&Dirt]

Just curious what you all think of this. I assume that in my brain, Porn and Masturbation are seen as the same thing, but in reality they are 2 different things. One is poison (porn), the other is a healthy, human activity (masturbation). Wouldn't it be easier to give up porn if I allowed myself to MO sometimes, so that I can satisfy my urges before they have a chance to lead me to porn?

Has anyone tried this? Does it work? What are your opinions?

 

[Daybyday1988]

i have tried this and in my opinion it isnt a good idea. the reason is that it is very difficult especially early on in recovery to separate porn thought and fantasy that you think about to have an orgasm from normal "healthy" fantasies about real people real experiences etc. According to Gary Wilson, the difference between porn and porn fantasy is "the mouse." Basically stating that The same neural pathways are lit up when you jerk off to porn fantasy as when youre on your phone looking at it.

My advice would be to lay off of jerking off for a few months at least, especially if you are suffering from sexual dysfunction like Erectile Dysfunction or delayed ejaculation. To be totally honest though, if we look at it objectively, jerking off is kind of useless anyway. its also messy!

-DbD