And we are at it again... trying to quit after 28 years

Dj Rascasse

Member
Hi all,
This is my second attempt to quit on my own, without external help, my addiction to pornographic content. I already tried in 2018 and shared the content here. It lasted 7 weeks, and just didn't manage to not replunge.
Let's do it, bloody me . This time I can . This is an update of my post of 2018

Hi all,

I guess my story is similar to a lot of what other people have written here, but it feels good to write it.

I am 42 years old, father of two wonderful kids below ten years old, and husband to my wife that I met 20 years ago while student. We have had and still have a family life that is often brought as example to others: our couple is never quarrelling and our kids are angels. I have been a successful neuroscience researcher for the past 12 years. I am also a very sporty person, lately finding a lot of happiness in ultra-trail running (long distance running in mountains).
So in one sentence: no problem, or at least no apparent problem.

Because for 28 years, I have been addicted to internet porn. All started when I found my dad's magazines, and then very fast discovered online porn when I started building static HMTL website in the mid-90s. It was the time when you had to wait for the image to load line by line :D. Then came, student life, Kazaa, uTorrent and all the rest you all have in mind.

The addiction didn't disappear when I met the love of my life, neither it faded when I got kids. No amplification either, just the need to connect to porn sites as soon as I had some time on my own with kids/wife around. Three / four times a week, in addition to a normal sex life. As this dependency was not accompanied by any erectile dysfunction, nothing to worry I said to myself. There was no evolution to more dirty porn, but to more voyeurism both online and in real life.

In a sense, this situation could have stayed like this. But I suspect the incapacity to share this addiction with anybody is provoking physical trauma, specially ulcers and stomach issues. In addition, I do love my wife and kids so much that I want to anticipate a possible side effect of this addiction on our family. I have managed to hide it until now.

Now I am just taking the step forward and I am, as we say in French (and maybe in English), ready to take the bull by the horn. I visited my GP on the 11 Sept, and at the end of a discussion about another subject, I asked him if he had any recommendation for a psychologist. I explained what it was about and he directed me to a centre for addicted person close to our place. And then, going out from the GP, it just clicked: he is the first person that I shared this with, now you have no choice but to stop. How could you look at him (and more importantly look at me) and justify that you have tried nothing?

One thing I have learned from ultra-trail running is this : you and your body are capable of much more than what your brain tries to tell you. When you have been running for 8h in mountains, the brain naturally asks you to stop and rest. But I don't do it, I continue. I fight. I push the limit. And I finish the bloody race. SO if I manage in trail running, why not trying against my addiction?
This is going to be a long fight, I know it, I feel it. I know my temper. But I am ready, now.

This journal is going to the only place where I will share this transition. I hope to have a cyber party here when I will consider myself cured
 

Percival

Active Member
@Dj Rascasse Are you sure you're not me? :) I'm a few years older than you, but not much, and I identify with most of what you say here. Porn addiction for a long time, no trauma in the past, happy marriage, good kids. No compelling reason except: hey, I like girls. That's pretty much it.

Yes, both your mind and your body are capable of far more than you think. And, one point of really good news: it won't take 28 years to break the addiction, although staying away for the long haul can be a big challenge.
 

Dj Rascasse

Member
Thanks @Percival for your message. I might be you without knowing :) Mind/body duality
One unknown I have is that I am afraid this break of addiction is going to have an impact on my marriage. Unconsciously, I think I didn't do anything the last years because everything (on the surface) is going well. Now we are getting older, the physical attraction between us is reducing. The addiction felt that gap, but if this is gone ? Then what ?
 

Dj Rascasse

Member
Day 4: woke up in a bad mood. Craving for some porn. Will focus on physical training to try to divert the mind to some other type of pain :) Yesterday, I removed the porn channel from the TV box at home, happy about the decision. Trying to make it as hard as possible to access content.
 

Percival

Active Member
Good job removing the channel. Anything smart you can do to make it harder for dumb you is a good step!

As for the effect on your marriage: I've read lots of accounts by guys who opened up to their wives/girlfriends and who were very surprised at how supportive they were. It seems like partners are usually supportive if they find out through honest conversation rather than catching their men in the act. On a more positive note, it may improve your marriage as your wife's body becomes the only one you're admiring.

For what it's worth, my wife and I were discussing this very thing a few weeks ago (after one of my crashes) and she said the porn doesn't really bother her because I've told her often, and acted, like I still find her attractive. So she doesn't feel threatened and understands it's just a temptation that is very hard for me to resist, and compares it to her own struggles with eating too much.
 

Dj Rascasse

Member
Week 1: had a great WE with friends in a cabin, no temptation at all. No screens, other activities. I can feel that the daily routine (home office) is when I get the cravings. Last time I relapsed after 2 months, so I know that the hard part is to come (pun intended :) )
 

Dj Rascasse

Member
@Percival this is actually very useful feedback. Cool to hear you have an open discussion about it with your wife.
What I am scared of is that sharing with my wife means that I have hidden sthg from her in the last 20+ years I have known her. I am certain this will be the hardest pill to swallow. It breaks the mutual trust we have. If this, then what else ? I know this is not couple councelling, but feels good to write it.
 

joepanic

Active Member
Thanks @Percival for your message. I might be you without knowing :) Mind/body duality
One unknown I have is that I am afraid this break of addiction is going to have an impact on my marriage. Unconsciously, I think I didn't do anything the last years because everything (on the surface) is going well. Now we are getting older, the physical attraction between us is reducing. The addiction felt that gap, but if this is gone ? Then what ?
Are you still making love to your wife?
 

joepanic

Active Member
Yes. Less than 15 years ago, but a couple (0-5) of times a month.
I think that is the same in most marriages You need to explore what it is porn does for you or what you are missing ion life that makes you still seek it out Mine was loneliness for many years when i was younger and it grew from there, Than it was stress of everyday life and living with a wife with major control issues.
 

Dj Rascasse

Member
Day 10: no relapse. Watching attractive young ladies in music video clips is tempting. Removing that. My stomach is unstable, more than usual; not sure if this is part of the process, or just a coincidence.
I can feel that my mood is swinging quite a lot, mostly towards the grumpy part. I am open with my entourage about being grumpy, but I don't share why (lack of sleep is my answer most of the times). I am getting excited and scared of the next 15 days. I'll try to avoid home office as much as I can. And pack my WE with some sport. But first one day at a time...
 

Dj Rascasse

Member
Day 11: no relapse. Full WE ahead with family activities in an environment without Internet and screens 🥳 Better mood today.
There is this interesting tradeoff between
either thinking about the fact that I am not watching porn, with the risk of bringing some desire back
or completely closing down the brain, not to pollute my mind with thoughts about porn and masturbation, but kind of lying to myself
Not sure how to properly balance these two, doing both these days
 

Percival

Active Member
@Percival this is actually very useful feedback. Cool to hear you have an open discussion about it with your wife.
What I am scared of is that sharing with my wife means that I have hidden sthg from her in the last 20+ years I have known her. I am certain this will be the hardest pill to swallow. It breaks the mutual trust we have. If this, then what else ? I know this is not couple councelling, but feels good to write it.

Sorry, I meant to reply a few days ago. Of course I don't know your wife and can't predict how she'll respond, but almost certainly better than if she just randomly catches you. And of course it will be easier for you to say "I used to, but haven't for a while." I confess that on the (rare) occasions that I talk about porn with my wife (which sounds weird to even say), it's almost some days afterwards and never while I am being tempted or immediately after a lapse.

Maybe it would be easier for you and maybe for her if you approach it as "This is something that's tempting for me and you can help me by..." as opposed to, "Yesterday I looked at a bunch of girls who are much younger and hotter than you and now I feel bad but you shouldn't feel threatened."

I don't mean to make light of it; I know it's hard. I already know how my wife will react and I'm still extremely reluctant to share my temptations with her. You are doing really well already!
 

Dj Rascasse

Member
Day 14 : WE away in the woods. Quality time alone with the kids, no temptation.
On the way back, I had an episode of masturbation in the shower. There has been no sex for 15 days (travel, sickness) so kind of felt like it. But interestingly enough, there was none of these bad porn images jumping in my head. Not sure if this is accepted in the "rebooting" guide. Is masturbation without porn generating the same dopine kick ? Nevertheless, it was actually kind of an interesting experience.
Morning working from home, and no crave for porn (as it was before). I am liking it, but still long way to go.
 

GBS

Respected Member
Hi @Dj Rascasse - re your question about masturbation not to porn images in your head, I have been told by counsellors that the aim is for “mindful” masturbation which is just the enjoyment of the feeling not to any other thoughts. I find this difficult but have achieved it a couple of times. Well done if you’re already there.
 

Dj Rascasse

Member
Day 15: good day. No temptation, working hard, training hard.
On what helps these days is music. Music has been a big part of my life (was an amateur DJ back in the vinyl days), and I can see that playing records put my head in a different space. Hard to describe: it feels like music fights for my brain attention (dopamine release all the way I guess) against porn. I don't know, feels like this.
Restarting yoga tomorrow... I hope there are not too many attractive women there :)
 

Percival

Active Member
It's really great to have something positive that gives you a similar high! Good luck with the yoga.
 
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Dj Rascasse

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Day 24: a week and a half I have not been here. A lot of ups, and some downs.
Let's start with the down : had one night(day 18) where I was awake and went the mobile phone rapid hole. The telephone has been placed outside the bedroom for now 2 months, but because I didn't manage to sleep, I had to change room, and then the temptation to scroll some fine ladies was high, very high. No porn at all, which I am happy about. But it ended up with M.
Then the ups: after this event, I manage to think about it, analyze what happened, and react positively. Don't blame myself, just acknowledge the road is long. The cravings are not present, even when working home office (which was the worst before). Went to yoga two times, and luckily there are only +60 years old ladies/mens with me, I am safe there.
Big test coming as I am travelling abroad for work on my own. In the past, this was just a M party in the hotel room. Let's fight that this time.
 
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