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Bacony412

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I'm 15 watched porn for 5 months never masturbated. I understand I dont need sex to complete the rewiring process. But could I still get over PIED completely if i never have a relationship with a girls. I have never had one and I wont have one for awhile. Could I still recover without sexual sensation?? Or is kissing and hugging essential to the rebooting process?
 
Bacony
Don't let Worry take over you. you are just at the first step of your puberty, you shouldn't worry at all.
Worry/anxiety/stress are far worse than porn when it comes to Erectile Dysfunction, just live your life normally and maintain a healthy life style and you will be safe.

Forgot to say: Stay away from porn.. its destructive on the long run and will program you to not enjoy real life.
 
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Bacony412

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Thanks ikeepforgetting. I really needed that. Today was just really hard for me I had tons of anxiety attacks and I have been really depressed. The flatline and PIED just really scare me I though I would be over the flatline by now.
 
engage in some activities, sports, a hobby.. just forget about it for few months or a year then have another look and things will be great i assure you. you have at least 3 more years before you should even start worrying.

That's what porn does to you, it makes you worry that you might not perform or get it up when needed and all those questions that keeps fighting in your head 99% of the time they are not true. so just enjoy your life and forget about it for now.
 
Do you feel that anxiety and alcohol or a combination of the two can have major impacts on erections? Or should someone be horny enough that it overrides those two variables?
 

chpcbr

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In absolute terms, both alcohol and anxiety are hurdles to a healthy erection. But no one can tell you (or me) how horny you should be. Just now that factors add up so if a problem already exists, it's much better not to add other negative factors to the equation.
 

willywonkaz13

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So what was the HARDEST PART OF REBOOTING? I'm finding it very hard to fight these urges so today I'm starting again and pushing for a solid 90!
 

Gabe Deem

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would Cialis not have worked at all for me if it was porn induced since I am able to get a firm erection with my fiance?

Yes it can work, or I should say "help." ED pills help with keeping blood flow in the penis, so if a guy has let's say "mild porn-induced ED" the pills can be a bandaid because they will help keep the blood that is flowing to the penis, flowing to the penis. If you have severe porn-induced ED, there was never any arousal to begin with, so no stimulation to begin with for the drugs to help with.

They may help some guys who do not have severe PIED, but if you have no arousal at all they probably will not work.

Erections start in the brain with dopamine and end in the penis with the blood vessel dilator cGMP. Dick pills help get/keep blood flowing to the penis. Viagra works by slowing the breakdown of cGMP, which in turn keeps the penis engorged with blood. So if your brain isn't producing enough signals in the first place, ED drugs will not work because there is no cGMP to stop from being broken down.

Simply put, I am guessing that guys who say ED pills help them are able to be aroused slightly and then the drugs help maintain whatever they can get. My advice if your ED is porn-induced, is to stay away from pills. You need time to let your addicted pathways weaken and time to let your numb reward circuit regain sensitivity. When in doubt, go see a good doc, and inform him that porn could be the cause if he is unaware. If the doctor says it is anxiety or stress related, mention to him you can't masturbate by yourself without porn so it is not performance anxiety. (Can you get an erection to porn? If you can then it most likely is, in fact, porn-induced ED. Especially given that you've already ruled out some things with doc)

It's possible your problem is porn-induced even though clialis has helped.
 

ajcoals

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Hey Gabe,

I'm about 40 days in, I just read orgasms early on are not good for rewiring. Didn't know that, my wife and I have been active, but I've been working hard to keeping all of my sexual activity with her alone.

My question is, I noticed in your withdrawal video that you said things seemed to iron out for you in about 6 months.  Do people typically see results sooner?  I feel my anxiety, depression, discouragement, and irritability has gone UP since I've started.  I also wrestle with an overall awareness of people's opinions of me, which isn't off for me, but all of this together has been very stressful.  I'm wondering - when do things emotionally start to get better?  Really ready for this phase to be done!

Thanks for all your help on here man!
 

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I'm about 40 days in, I just read orgasms early on are not good for rewiring.

Congrats on 40 days first of all! Second, I wouldn't say "orgasms early on are not good for rewiring." I would say they may slow down the reboot process for some, but others they can help. This really is an individual thing and as long as one is staying away from all artificial stimulation and not reinforcing the wrong neurological pathways then everyone has to decide what route they are going to take in regards to orgasms and rewiring.

Here is the most extensive advice I can give you on this topic and whether or not to O. I do advise going a period of time no O at the beginning, but this isn't something that will help everyone. Anywho, check out this post - http://legacy.rebootnation.org/index.php?topic=67.0

I noticed in your withdrawal video that you said things seemed to iron out for you in about 6 months.  Do people typically see results sooner?

Many people do. My recovery was certainly on the longer side, but everyone is different.

I feel my anxiety, depression, discouragement, and irritability has gone UP since I've started.

The same was true for me. This happens with withdrawal from behavioral addictions. An increase in anxiety is one of the most common symptoms reported by rebooters. For me things got better around 6 months emotionally, I went through a period of depression and that was when the fog started to lift and I began to see the beauty of life again.

I hope that comes sooner rather than later for you, but be patient because it will come. Hope the best for you. Much Love
 

ajcoals

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Gabe,

This helps man.  Thank you for taking the time to reply!  You've definitely impacted the way I view porn and sex, grateful for your story bro.
 

Gabe Deem

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@ cknfella,
Thank you for taking the time to reply!  You've definitely impacted the way I view porn and sex, grateful for your story bro.

Glad to help in any way I can. Hope the best for you. Much Love
 

Rosso

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Hello Gabe and thank you so much for this site!

What I wanted so ask is what kind of symptoms have you heard PIED induces in your dick?

This summer I went limp with a girl and then three days later I woke up with this cold tingling in my dick as if it was completely numb. Been an active porn user since 15 and I was one of those very active users who browsed for hours at time - also did in between these aforementioned days.

It's as if I don't feel the rush to my dick anymore. I don't get instant strong erections as I used to before this day in the summer. My dick feels completely dead.

When I get erect it takes much longer than it used to and I only achieve 60-70% of the quality I used to. If I'm distracted it also goes down almost immediately. Also the head doesn't get enlarged at all like it used to. Viagra doesn't really help.

I feared it would be Venous Leak but I ruled it out with tests. Lab tests for hormones etc. also came back OK.

After last wednesday (The day VL was ruled out) I've gotten couple good morning erections - even better than the ones I did with viagra. Still worse than I did before this summer's incident. Exercise, eat healthily, quit smoking couple of weeks ago. My libido goes up and down.

8 days without orgasming. Over 40 days without porn.

 

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@ Rosso,
This summer I went limp with a girl and then three days later I woke up with this cold tingling in my dick as if it was completely numb...

My dick feels completely dead.

If I'm distracted it also goes down almost immediately. Also the head doesn't get enlarged at all like it used to. Viagra doesn't really help.

These are all common symptoms of porn-induced erectile dysfunction. Cold lifeless dick, change in color, loss of morning wood, going limp with a partner, Viagra not helping etc... these all happened to me, and to thousands of other rebooters.

Good news is the reboot works. It is also great that you ruled out Venous Leak, and I'm also assuming they checked basic things like hormones. So, it sounds like a classic case of porn-induced ED. You need to reboot.

Congrats on 40 days! Sounds like you're off to a great start. Read all the sticky posts on this site and watch our videos, and click the YourBrainOnPorn link at the top of this site and read through the FAQ's. Get educated, get and give support here on the Nation. Hope the best for you!
 

Gabe Deem

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So what was the HARDEST PART OF REBOOTING?

I'd have to say struggling to maintain confidence in the rebooting process, while dealing with depression and anxiety. The first 6 months of my reboot were the darkest, most difficult days of my life so far. Very tough time, but in the end I'm thankful I went through it, as it let me grow into a better person and see things differently.
 

drummerdude777

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Hi Gabe, first of all thank you for your support and all the good work that you do helping people rebuild their lives and get free from this addiction and healthy again..
                        Im 26 years old, been addicted to pornography and weed for the last 5 years, and been trying to quit since the last 2. I think i'm one of the bad cases, as i reached the point of not being able to get hard even with porn like 2 years back but still continued relapsing (some weeks clean then relapse , you know the cycle)  because of being depressed due to a breakup and other issues in my life. Although i have worked upon my life and changed a lot over the past 1 year (have a good job, rebuilt my relationships with my friends etc) i have really reached rock bottom with my addiction. I have literally been masturbating with 80% erections which i cant maintain for more than 2 minutes since the past year and a half and i still couldn't stop relapsing knowing this shit is hurting me so bad.
                      But i have had enough, with God's help i'm leaving this behind for good. Getting healthy again and recovering from this and clean from this is my biggest priority at this moment. 2016 is the year i give up pmo and weed for good. The biggest problem for me atm is dealing with negativity and pessimism. I have been fighting this for so long and have let it get so bad, that sometimes i feel i have damaged my brain and my sexuality for good. I remember being a healthy , happy 21 yr old with a high sex drive before this porn addiction screwed up my life..

Can my brian heal from all this? I have no desire to watch porn or masturbate EVER. I don't care if it takes years but i hope i regain my sex drive and i can be in a relationship someday.. Thanks
 
Hi Gabe, first time poster. When you spoke of withdrawal during recovery you mentioned feeling depressed, anxious and basically numb to every day pleasures. Can definitely relate to this at the moment, 32 day PMO free so far, feel almost asexual. My question is what was your mood and emotional state like during active addiction ? Can't of been that happy I'd imagine ? I know i wasn't, was hell on earth.
 
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