Reboot time estimation?

seltraeh

Member
I'd just like an estimation. I'm in no rush to get back into old habits but I'd like to know how long until I should notice some changes. My social anxiety is killing me...

Anyhoo, I know everyone is different so I'll explain my situation.

I'm 18 and became addicted at 14. So pretty much my entire High School life. I usually did it once or twice a day. I knew it was bad for me so I'd occasionally try to go a day or two without it but overall, it was pretty much a daily thing for 4 years.

About how many months should my reboot take? Also, I'm completely done with porn but when will it be okay to masturbate again? I plan on doing it only when I absolutely need to.
 

Phase2

Well-Known Member
Because, like you said, everyone is different, there really can be no reality-based estimation for you. Just read other people's stories and all the information here and start the process. http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/erectile-dysfunction-question

That said, I had a horny first week, then went into flatline for five weeks. Just starting to come out of it around Day 48. But our backgrounds are different so don't go by that.

Good luck, man. Get started!
 

Chaos Mind

Active Member
There is a controvers discussion about MO during your reboot. I do it from time to time, but the way I masturbate has changed significantly. I don't do it to let off steam or to get the dopamine kick. I do it when I feel pure and beautiful arousal. I don't fantasize, I don't watch anything. If I do it, I lay down in bed and take my time, touch myself, feel the reaction. In a way, I get to know my body once again. I learn how arousal should feel.

I've had great success with it, but you should only do it if your thoughts are pure. Also, many people claim that brain fog comes back and that they go straight into flatline after MO'ing. So I suggest you listen to your heart and only do what feels RIGHT to do. No excuses, be absolutely honest to yourself.

The problem with estimation is that your reboot cannot follow a calender. As soon as you have an estimation, you have a time goal. Your success depends on a natural process. You cannot force any natural process by setting a deadline (which you automatically do). It might take 3 weeks, 3 months or 3 years. The trick is to NOT know when it's over before you're actually there. Like a dream which fades as soon as you try to influence the action.
 

Gambit123

Active Member
out of curiosity, how has MO affected your reboot?  are you seeing results with your ED? I have read an O can really set you back during the hard 90 which is why I am not MO or having any O during my hard mode.
 

Chaos Mind

Active Member
My ED issue had never been that bad in comparison to what I read here. I have been an on-off-porn user for 10 years and only the last one or two years I started having PMO binges. When I had one, I couldn't get erect for a day or so. And at times when I (P)MO'd more than once a day I would have troubles when having sex with my gf. But I just needed to restrain myself for two days and I'd be a 90% good lover.

But I realized I was at the edge of something serious. I lost emotional control over PMO. I valued a good PMO session more than real sex with my gf and THAT worried me. I then came across the site and now I realize it would have gotten way worse in the next few months or years. So I stopped now, while still having control over my sexuality and ED only being a minor problem.

MO'ing so far has not affected my reboot. But I have strict rules. I don't MO when something triggers me. Even if it's just the pretty weatherlady on TV. It's the other way round: sometimes I feel like I want to enjoy something. So I prepare myself, lay down in bed, close my eyes and feel. I take my time and feel the gentle touch of my hands. This is completely different to every masturbation I had in all the years before and I only do that like once or twice a week. I only think about real persons I've met and know. I don't allow myself to fantasize about anything fictive. Until my reboot I could only have sex once a day. Last time I slept with my girlfriend I was able to go for another round with only a 10 minute's break. It seems I have a very high libido which has always been covered by PMO abuse. Also I never had to re-wire to girls. That makes it easier for me to get erection, but it's also difficult: I became hypersensitive and emotional unfaithful. At the moment I feel like I want to kiss and make love to every girl that walks by. These desires risk my relationship the same way PIED does for others with low libido.

I do not want to encourage anyone to MO. I know that most of you guys have had way more problems with PIED than I had. Also you need to know what MO does with you. You don't do it when you crave it. You do it for the mere pleasure. And I think those who are on hard reset cannot even have innocent sexual fantasies - so they should also avoid MO'ing.
 
Personally, at about day 60 of hardmode I felt like a brand new person who had never PMO'd in my life. The best way to get over social anxiety is to take your focus off of the reboot and enjoy a hobby. Classical music helped my brain feel great
 

Gambit123

Active Member
but just to be clear, after 60 days hardmode, you start MO...and you continue to see improvemetns in your PIED while starting to MO?

My PIED has improved (yay) but not quite there yet and I know there is room for improvement. I just want to make sure I don't do anything to hurt my progress.
 

CrateDane

Active Member
I have gone about 70 days without PMO or MO BUT I have had orgasms with my girlfriend (which also helps rewiring) and Im seeing pretty decent improvements still.
 
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