What is your health currently?

bzarfas

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I have a friend who thinks people are machines and this PIED is nonsense
he thinks if everyone is lean(bodyfat 10-15%, BMI 20-25) total testostrone 850+, estraidol 20-30.  people on here had enough sleep, enough minerals(zinc, etc)
then  there would be no issues..

I told him that sounded foolish
that the food industry has made food that hurts our health(transfat, etc)
and is addicting(everyone needs their coffee of sugar high)
and porn is very much the same way, addictice and harmful

so what's your health like?  Do people get on the computer, watch tv or do you guys maintain a good diet, BMI/bodyfat %, or just play WOW all day?
 

jon86

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My health is pretty good, haven't had a sickness in 4 years. Take multi vitamins daily, I don't eat junk foods at all, or over eat. I think having good health comes from good mental health as well as physical.
 

Gabe Deem

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Few things.

First, to answer your question I was in excellent health, good diet, no stress, 10% body fat, better than normal testosterone. I had total erectile dysfunction except while watching.

Second, - and this alone goes against what your friend is saying- is most guys with porn induced ED CAN get an erection with porn. Showing that their dicks work. But they cannot get an erection masturbating without porn. Showing that it is not anxiety related.

This is a brain issue. Your friend is incorrect.
 

jon86

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Gabe Deem said:
Few things.

First, to answer your question I was in excellent health, good diet, no stress, 10% body fat, better than normal testosterone. I had total erectile dysfunction except while watching.

Second, - and this alone goes against what your friend is saying- is most guys with porn induced ED CAN get an erection with porn. Showing that their dicks work. But they cannot get an election masturbatory without porn. Showing that it is not anxiety related.

This is a brain issue, not a health issue. Your friend is incorrect.

I think i can get an "election" without porn :). But I would vote that it only happens in the morning, or from some arousing thought.
 

bzarfas

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Gabe Deem said:
Few things.

First, to answer your question I was in excellent health, good diet, no stress, 10% body fat, better than normal testosterone. I had total erectile dysfunction except while watching.

what does that mean in a numerical value?
I ask because my Dad had 300 level and his GP told him he's fine.  Which is absurd.
Gabe Deem said:
Second, - and this alone goes against what your friend is saying- is most guys with porn induced ED CAN get an erection with porn. Showing that their dicks work. But they cannot get an erection masturbating without porn. Showing that it is not anxiety related.

This is a brain issue. Your friend is incorrect.
Morning erections show you are in pretty good health, yes.
My stance to my friend was that the logic of porn causing ED issues when you have sex(isnt not climaxing part of ED? that's a reason I am here, I dont finish with girls. I just keep going)
My analogy to him was, thanksgiving dinnner= sex with your SO.
snacks=porn
can you enjoy/eat as much at Thanksgiving dinner if you have snacks all day/week?

THen I showed him the link from here about food./drugs/receptor downgrade.

I think porn has caused me issues, but maybe not, even so I'm trying this out!

What do you think I should show my friend the PIED is real?
He is all about health and ED issues caused my obesity/too much fat, etc. hes  a health nut. Which is why I thought the sheer logic of this site would appeal to him, But is there some science I can show him?
thanks
 

Gabe Deem

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@ bzarfas
what does that mean in a numerical value?
I ask because my Dad had 300 level and his GP told him he's fine.  Which is absurd

It was somewhere around 950 ng/dL I believe.

My stance to my friend was that the logic of porn causing ED issues when you have sex(isnt not climaxing part of ED? that's a reason I am here, I dont finish with girls. I just keep going)

Yes, difficulty climaxing is called delayed ejaculation. It is a sexual dysfunction yes, erectile dysfunction is typically defined as the inability to get or maintain a sufficient erection for sexual intercourse. They are different but delayed ejaculation is still a porn induced sexual dysfunction, and a lot of guys have DE before they develop total ED.

I'd suggest showing him these videos: http://yourbrainonporn.com/erectile-dysfunction-and-porn

and my video that sums it up with my story briefly (13 mins) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGGxXHBVDYU

And finally show him all these articles and posts with experts saying this is a real condition : http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/porn-induced-ed-media

I think porn has caused me issues, but maybe not, even so I'm trying this out!

A reboot can never hurt to try. I would agree that porn is probably the cause. Are you on any medication like anti-depressants?

He is all about health and ED issues caused my obesity/too much fat, etc. hes  a health nut.

Again, tell him many of the guys who have PIED are in excellent shape and get checked out by doctors and urologists who tell them they are perfectly healthy. They can get erections with porn just fine, but not without.
 
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