I have a clarifying question on rebooting: if we choose to occasionally masterbate during reboot, does fantasizing about real women in my mind while masterbating violate the rules? In other words, no to watching porn, browsing websites or reading erotic literature, but yes to fantasizing about real women while masterbating. Thanks!
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Is this stretching the rules of reboot?
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zapato said:I have a clarifying question on rebooting: if we choose to occasionally masterbate during reboot, does fantasizing about real women in my mind while masterbating violate the rules? In other words, no to watching porn, browsing websites or reading erotic literature, but yes to fantasizing about real women while masterbating. Thanks!
I stopped smoking years ago, and then I said, an occasional hookah won't harm (I quit them all now). Some people stop drinking whisky, then, switch to light beers. Some stop porn, but continue to creep on facebook pictures. You see what I mean? All of the above people kinda want to make a change, but are not ready to pay the price.
If you want to have real desire and sex with real women, you have to pay a price. The price is quitting porn and masturbation. While masturbation without porn is not harmful for normal people, early rebooters should abstain from it. Orgasms, tend to hinder the process.
Man, what will happen if you abstain from playing with your penis??? Will it drop or die? If not, let it rest. In several weeks, It will come back roaring with a raging desire to real flesh. Or, If you want to keep fertilizing your hands with or without pixels, and be the guy who can't get erect or horny in front of a naked woman, just continue to M with or without P. The choice is yours. And I know you'll make the right one!
Best wishes.
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@theram01 i was afraid of your response to this guy. many people dont get it and i saw many bad advices about MO during reboot. by now it is obvious that MO is bad idea during reboot.
i did one MO session after 8 months of hard mode (only occasional sex) and it led me to relapse. i was not even fantasizing about anything! you could imagine that after that time, only light touch is more than enough to quickly O. i also read about light grip and not edging but quickly Oing. BS. i was only 80% recovered after those 8 months of hard mode though, so i dont know what would happen if i was fully recovered... but if you are not 1000% back, dont even think about it.
yes masturbation is not the cause of the problem, but when the problem is already present (porn addiction) it is obstacle to recovery. also normal people can fantasize about real foreplay/sex with real women and it is not the same as fantasizing about porn but for porn addicts any fantasy is the same and hinders the process of recovery.
i did one MO session after 8 months of hard mode (only occasional sex) and it led me to relapse. i was not even fantasizing about anything! you could imagine that after that time, only light touch is more than enough to quickly O. i also read about light grip and not edging but quickly Oing. BS. i was only 80% recovered after those 8 months of hard mode though, so i dont know what would happen if i was fully recovered... but if you are not 1000% back, dont even think about it.
yes masturbation is not the cause of the problem, but when the problem is already present (porn addiction) it is obstacle to recovery. also normal people can fantasize about real foreplay/sex with real women and it is not the same as fantasizing about porn but for porn addicts any fantasy is the same and hinders the process of recovery.
Numez said:@theram01 i was afraid of your response to this guy. many people dont get it and i saw many bad advices about MO during reboot. by now it is obvious that MO is bad idea during reboot.
i did one MO session after 8 months of hard mode (only occasional sex) and it led me to relapse. i was not even fantasizing about anything! you could imagine that after that time, only light touch is more than enough to quickly O. i also read about light grip and not edging but quickly Oing. BS. i was only 80% recovered after those 8 months of hard mode though, so i dont know what would happen if i was fully recovered... but if you are not 1000% back, dont even think about it.
yes masturbation is not the cause of the problem, but when the problem is already present (porn addiction) it is obstacle to recovery. also normal people can fantasize about real foreplay/sex with real women and it is not the same as fantasizing about porn but for porn addicts any fantasy is the same and hinders the process of recovery.
You just evoked something very important: One masturbation session, even without porn, or some fantasy can lead to a miserable relapse. Especially when the rebooter is new, and is frustrated by his lack of libido. He will quickly turn to his old habits.