How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love My Meat Truncheon - Lilliput's Journal

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Lilliput Haunt

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Part One - The Old Single-Barreled, Pump Action Skin Flute Fails to Eject

I remember waking up the night after I first tried to have sex. I rubbed my sex-fluid encrusted eyebrows and looked at my flaccid shmeckle and frowned. Next to me lay a beautiful woman. She was smiling in her sleep, I remember, while I sat up in bed quietly, trying not to wake her, partly out of politeness, but mostly out of a need to debrief myself on what the hell just happened. I was nineteen. A late bloomer for my first attempt, no doubt, but the wait had been worth it to get this beautiful, beautiful specimen. She was more beautiful than any girl I had imagined I'd ever get to spend the night with. Way better than I deserved, no doubt about that. Short, black, straightened hair, with small but perfectly pert breasts, about the size of small apples, and a wonderfully toned body. She reminded me of some kind of perky elf from the Portland quarter of Lothlorien who liked to wear trucker hats and drink shitty beer ironically. By all common logic I could muster in that moment of brain fog, this sex should have been mind blowing. In the perfect world I had constructed for myself the night before, I was already coming up with excuses for why I didn't last that long with her, and how thirty seconds is 'pretty good' and that she was 'just too hot' and other such pseudo post-virginal quips that one delivers to the homies.

But that wasn't at all what happened. I'm a pretty meticulous guy. I like to run through hypotheticals in my head constantly, planning for contingencies and things that might go right or wrong in my life. This blindsided me though. My good old mayo shooting, hot dog gun had failed me completely.

I replayed the events of the past few weeks. We had met outside the local theater. We were both into acting, and we got to talking about it. I complimented her on her black boots, military surplus I think, and compared them to mine, which were more dressy, but still came up the calf, just like hers. We hit it off. The next week was a storm of those wonderfully awkward but fun moments of a young couple getting to know each other. We'd break into places, drink expensive wine, talk about all kinds of things. Well, it finally came to a head. I would be leaving town for a little while, and she wanted to seal the deal before I left. I went over to her house the last night and answered the door. I was so nervous I made up an excuse like I had to make a playlist for my trip the next day. She wasn't having it though. She stripped off her clothes, then mine, and led me by the hand to her bedroom.

I'll spare you all the details, but you already guessed it, throughout the whole night, I couldn't get it up. Nothing worked. We made out for what seemed like hours. We had mood music going on in the background. I had a couple beers. I tried my best at eating her out, with what little I had learned, ironically, from porn. Overall, she was very accommodating of the problem, but for the first time I saw the look in her eye, something I wasn't able to peg down until I woke up that next morning and debriefed myself on the situation. It was just a glimpse, but in that moment, in that look, I caught the core what would become a very common and almost all-consuming problem I would face for years - disappointment.

Nevertheless, after that night, she declared us an item. Despite last night's performance, I guess there's something to be said for being a silly motherfucker and wearing dress boots that go up to your calf. I don't need to go over the next few months in detail. She loved me, there was no doubt about that. She came to visit me a couple of times after I moved out of town, but every time the elephant in the room was sex. I didn't know what was happening to me or why, so my first response was denial, but god was it painful. To come home every day from college, find her ready to go and then consistently, persistently disappoint her. There were a few times where I could get it up for her, but it would be rare and wouldn't last any significant amount of time and never, every coming close to orgasm. There's almost nothing more apocalyptically frustrating.

I don't know if I started treating her worse because of my own frustration with the situation, or she became more upset with me because of it. After having a few years of separation from the events that transpired, I'm leaning towards the former. She became a living, breathing mirror of my own inadequacy, and seeing her constantly, was a constant reminder. There were other situations that compounded on top of that. I was dirt poor at the time, and that certainly added to it, but chiefly, it was my impotence. Had the sex life been great, all other issues could have been glossed over. I think I started self-destructing the relationship, purposefully sabotaging it without even realizing it, to get her to end it, which would exonerate me from guilt. Man, what is this? Amateur psychology hour on RebootNation? Who the hell knows what I was thinking, I'm not Freud. All I know is I was angry at myself. Disappointed that I couldn't please a woman. A whole vortex of emotion like I went to Dairy Queen and got a swirl cone made out of impotent rage and incomprehension, with sprinkles of frustration and angst. Trust me when I say the ones made out of ice cream are at least 78% better.

I broke up with her over Facebook a few weeks later. Lost one of the most attractive I've ever gotten to that level with in my life. I hear she's married now. This is me being serious for a second, if you don't solve this eventually, you'll miss out on your god-given right to someone who loves you. Is there a more serious crusade than that?

It never even occurred to me that porn or masturbation might have had anything to do with it. Maybe it was because I was drinking too much, or maybe it was the cigarettes. Maybe it was because I was newbie at the ol' in-and-out, but certainly never PMO.

I think I'll wrap it up here for today. A bit wordsy for my first attempt, and maybe I'm starting out further back than I ought to, but whatever. This is my first serious attempt to stop this once and for all. For me, its important that I lay out the full history of this problem so I can remind myself why I'm doing this. I'll try to continue the story tomorrow. This'll lead up to the heart of the issue, I promise, if anyone even reads this.

It's going to get better. Keep the faith.
 
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@Promise

Thank you for the compliment my man. I do indeed know about YBOP, it was one of my main motivators to get my shit in order. Like so many folks on the site, I think we all knew what we were doing was bad for us, we just never acted on it. It became one of those things like, "Oh yeah, I'll give up PMO. Well I mean like, maybe tomorrow."

And so on. This'll be my first major, multi-month attempt at breaking PMO. I'm on deployment right now in Afghanistan. You'd figure, strange place to get that started right? That's what I thought anyway, but the more I went through the logic, I began to think, this is the perfect place. Quite a bit harder to get porn over here than back home. Plus, its just a good place to be in your own head and get away from the distractions and temptations like alcohol that lead to that slippery slope.

I also gave up cigarettes here as well. So far so good!
 

Aurelius

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Poignant and beautifully written. I know that for me when there is too much MO I am aware of what I have but I lack full and honest appreciation. It's almost like MO deprives us of the chemicals that attach our brain to the external rather than the internal. Of course the brain evolved to take the most economical path to pleasure and MO, or PMO, is clearly the least costly in terms of energy to achieve "reproduction." Thankfully we can override the brains autopilot, but taking over the controls is difficult and sometimes involves crashing.
 
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So while I was having my morning coffee and staring listlessly out the window like some kind of weirdo, the song Psychotic Girl by The Black Keys comes on. An electrical impulse fires in my brain and I suddenly have an intense desire to write about a very special woman in my life. Where better than right here!

Part 2 - Psychotic Girl

This was my second serious relationship after Girlfriend Alpha got out of my life. Despite that disaster, I think on some level I was longing to wipe the slate clean of that ugliness. I'm not sure what I was expecting. I knew my brautwurst was still having issues. Following the first disastrous relationship, I had fooled around with a few other girls, largely with the same results, if not more pronounced than ever. Sexual 'excitement' for me with a woman was about the mental equivalent of playing an online walking simulator. Because of this, around this point I had learned to fake it really well, as pathetic as that sounds. I would even go so far as to dry hump with a girl for a while and then quickly tell her that I already orgasmed, rather than face the humiliation of having to make up excuses for the rest of the night as to why my dude pistol wasn't working. My guy friends would relate to me their problems with premature ejaculation and I would listen to their 'problems' with envy, wishing my issue was that simple. The bottom line is, I was pretty depressed. I had a big problem here that I still didn't understand.

Enter Girlfriend Bravo. We were introduced by a good friend of mine who was going to college in Berkeley. We hit it off and added each other on Facebook, and kept communicating on and off for a couple of months. Later on down the road, the same friend was hosting a big college party and invited the both of us to attend. She was cute, no doubt about it. Blonde, not quite as slender as the elfish Girlfriend Alpha, kind of a stoner, Berkeley type girl who's hobbies include playing trumpet and watching Stanley Kubrick movies on mushrooms. We had a great night together and later on in the evening, she invited me back to her place. I braced myself for another night of disappointment, but something small yet significant happened this time. I don't know if it was because I was slightly inebriated or I had smoked a little too much pot that night, but for the first time ever, my ego came down a little and I told her, "Look, I'm kind of hard to get off."

I don't remember exactly how I said it, but it was along those lines, and that was a huge victory for me even though I didn't realize it at the time. One thing I would come to learn as time went on is how important trust and communication with your partner is. She smiled and told me she had a very difficult time achieving orgasm herself. This really boosted my confidence, and I sort of learned that at least to some extent, trust and insecurity had become issues for me, because of my long term difficulty with sex due to PMO. It had eroded my self-confidence without even realizing it.

We got back to my place. I forget why, but she didn't want to have vaginal intercourse, but we did some oral for a while, and after what must have been all night (the sun was coming up, I remember that), I finally shot off from the oral sex. Now this wasn't as big of an achievement as it sounds. It took a ton of manual stimulation on my part. I was basically just jacking off onto her. Sorry to be graphic, but there it is. Manual stimulation, took literally several hours, and the orgasm itself was extremely disappointing. Nevertheless, it WAS monumental for me. This was the first time it had ever happened. Again, I have to stress that I think communicating my problem, even if only on a surface level was hugely helpful for me.

We became an item after that. Given my previous success, I warned her a couple of times more that I was hard to please down there, but she continued to smile and told me she would enjoy helping us both find our way back to more pleasurable sex. That helped a lot I think. Not only could I straight up tell her my problem, but she reciprocated with revealing her own inability to orgasm, which gave us mutual ground and we established this openness about sex which was invaluable to me. As months went buy, I slowly felt more comfortable with her, and was eventually able to orgasm during vaginal intercourse, although rarely and only when she was in the cowgirl position. To this day, I haven't been able to achieve orgasm vaginally unless it's in that position.

Anyway, by the name of the chapter you could probably guess this went downhill. She moved down to Orange County to be with me, but because of the nature of my work, I had trouble seeing her as often as I'd like, which added stress on the relationship. More significantly, her drug use increased over time, and we're not just talking the old reefer here. She started adding coke and prescription meds onto the stack, and eventually, she had a full mental breakdown. I tried to help her, but the situation began to spiral out of control really quickly. I can't even begin to describe the types of messages she'd send to me while I was out. Just pages and pages of gibberish. It became this vicious cycle of trying to get back with me until an emotional connection was made and then ripping it to shreds. Eventually I had enough. I wanted to help her, but with that level of emotional abuse, I couldn't take it anymore. It got to the point where she was calling my parents and friends, some whom she'd never met, to tell them what a horrible person I was in her broken, adderall-addled gibberish. It was awful. She eventually ended up in a loony bin.

I talked to her briefly a few years later. I guess she got off the drugs and is now leading a fairly normal life up in Oregon with her new boyfriend. I still miss her sometimes. Who am I kidding? I still really miss her. When things were at their peak, I think I was the happiest I had ever been. I think I really loved her. Unlike Girlfriend Alpha, who I felt like was just someone I ought to be attracted to, Bravo was someone I genuinely was. It's interesting to note that Alpha was better looking than Bravo. But yeah, there was a legitimate emotional connection there. Still, despite all of it, I can't help but feel that even with our openness, my own insecurity was part of the issue that led to me not spending enough time with her and leading up to the breakup. I don't know how much of that is true, or how much of it was my fault. Certainly, she self-destructed in her own way, but one can't help but wonder if you didn't cause part of it. I'm happy she's doing better now anyway.

So the moral of the story is, I had made progress. I think this was around the point I was slowly becoming aware of YBOP and the impact of PMO on one's sex life, it just hadn't registered with me yet. The fact that I was now able to finally achieve O with a girl was a major milestone in a struggle that continues to this day. I learned very important lessons from Bravo though, about the importance of trust, understanding and communication.

Surprisingly, women generally won't look at you like you have a second penis growing out of your forehead if you tell them about your issues with sex. Many of the ones I've been with have been very understanding. They can deal with a man who battles his demons. What they can't deal with is a man who keeps those demons secret and takes out his anger on his partner.

That's all for now. Again, long winded, but it feels good to finally write this all out and get my thoughts on paper. I think the next entry, I'll write about some more recent events and observations, about porn specifically and my experience with it. These past two entries have reflected the two girlfriends I've had in my life, although there are a couple other women who have been very significant in my life and helped me with my PMO issues. I'll get to them later on down the road. This is extremely cathartic. Feels good man.

Cheers! Keep fighting the good fight! We're all going to get there.
 

stangles

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I agree all my experiences when telling a girl have been positive. I feel it is selfish to not tell them because then they believe it's their fault.
 
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Lilliput Haunt

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@strangles

Exactly my man! I think its hard to overcome that because of our own egos. In our minds, we like to imagine ourselves as these perfect specimens who can hit all the right spots and O exactly when we need to and so on. Ironically, the real way to get closer to good sex is to let down the ego and be honest with your girl.

Now I'm not saying you have to get super deep into it on your first date, and start throwing all the terms at her, and explaining your entire life story about PMO to her, that might weird her out a little bit, but just keep it real. Explain that you have a harder time than most guys getting off. I've only had positive feedback from laying it out prior to things get hot and heavy.
 
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Addendum

Man, today was rough. It's been around eight days since my last spank, and I think today was the hardest, so to speak. I've still managed to restrict myself to zero P, but damn is it hard to avoid the little loopholes we make for ourselves. Today my deal was a dating website I frequent from time to time. Some of those pictures girls put up are pretty damned hot. That sort of spiraled into other 'gray area' media and things got a little heavy, but at the end of the day, I managed to resist.

No real PM and certainly no O.

Just have to keep myself busier. Boredom must be avoided at all costs.
 
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Observations

11 days, a few close calls and some temptations here and there, but the streak continues. Time doesn't exactly fly on this program does it? Haha, that's fine, this is the test of our gumption after all! Nothing good in life comes easy!

I only have a few minutes tonight, but I had a quick, interesting story regarding a PMO failure I had about six months ago.

I remember coming home from my last deployment. I did sort of half-assed version of what I'm doing here now. I would try to not PMO, but if I felt the mood overcome me in any way that at all drove me past the point of slight temptation, it would be all over. Nevertheless, my porn was fairly regulated. I just stuck to a couple Literotica pieces I had saved on my laptop for all my fantasizing. The internet out here sucks, plus most porn was blocked anyway, so your average night on YouPorn.com was a no-go.

Anyway, the point is this. I got home and promptly went back to my old multi-tabbed, streaming hardcore porn habits, BUT, having sensitized myself however slightly while I was abroad made those first couple of PMOs with the full-monty, multi-tabbed streams outrageously mindblowing. It really just speaks to the success of this program. If I was able to sensitize myself in such a minor, half-assed way, and then my re-exposure to porn suddenly fired all the neurons in my brain, and gave me a rock-hard erection that I wouldn't have had before, then surely that's proof that sensitization is the name of the game.

So there are lessons we learn from our failures. I think this is important for the folks who fall off the wagon to understand. Try to bring back a new understanding from you relapse, it'll help you in the future and solidify your attempts in the future.

Cheers!
 

Promise

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That's right, Vincent made a great post regarding how to deal with relapse on the Porn Addiction part of this forum.

When you were talking about Bravo girl you mention that the only time you've ever come vaginally was in the cowgirl position, creepily it's been exactly the same with me :eek:

You're right that it's so much better to be open about your feelings where relationships and sex are concerned, I would always hide my feelings and problems, and that served to ruin a few relationships for me.  I was so bad with my passive aggression, and it would spark off for no reason, and I'd turn women down for no reason too.  Maybe it's just easier than trying to actually deal with your problems.

Sounds like you're managing your temptations well, the best thing to do is shut down those urges the second they show up.  "No, I won't click on the personals section, that would be entirely counter-productive."  "That image is a bit too raunchy, I'll hide it or close the web page." saying no the first time is the easiest, you summed it up perfectly when you said that willpower erodes with every barrier that is crossed.
 
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Lilliput Haunt

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WARNING
Couple of triggers in here, briefly talking about sexual positions and some discussion about relapse to PMO.

@Prom

Good reply as usual.

Honestly, I'm beginning to think blowing the streak and masturbating once isn't going to kill your progress, especially if there's no porn involved. I know that's controversial to say around here, and shame on me for possibly triggering someone with that statement, but I think it's encouraging for those who miss one day. I'll talk about that in my main post a bit.

And yeah, there's just something about cowgirl. I don't know what it is, but its a very particular feeling. Maybe because its most akin to the feeling of masturbation? My last girl who I had sex with, I wanted to turn her on her back just as I was about to O in cowgirl, so I could get my body used to the feeling of cumming while I was on top. It all usually just comes back to mental pattern recognition anyway, right?

STATUS UPDATE!

This stuff just gets harder and harder, doesn't it? That's alright though, because what's life without challenges?

THE CHALLENGES:

- Edging two days in a row now.
- Attempts to try to justify masturbation - If other people only need two months to reboot, then why should I challenge myself to 240?
- Loss of focus to the seriousness of this cause. Inability to have sex WILL impact my ability to find love in my life.
- More rationalization - M without P can't be too bad right? While it probably wouldn't kill my development, it is still unsatisfactory.
- "Gray Area" porn. Reading limited amounts of personals ads. Dating websites. Some fantasies about past porn viewed.
- General malaise that without sex to reinforce proper sexual habits, abstinence from PMO is pointless.
- High work stress, lack of sleep, mild leg injury from exercise, unusual schedule changes due to shift work.

THE SUCCESSES:

- No masturbation to the point of orgasm. Two week mark surpassed!
- No porn, aside from the "gray areas" mentioned above.
- Increased libido. More easily able to get erections.
- Sexual thoughts float more towards past, real-life experiences than fantasies and porn.

NOTES ON THE ABOVE:

Well, the challenges outnumber the successes, but the successes certainly carry more weight, so overall, I count the past two weeks as a bumpy victory. The edging irritates me slightly, and I feel like I'm cheating myself a bit whenever it happens, but it has been limited, and I do not believe it impacts my progress in a significant way. I need to cut it to avoid the obvious temptation to O in the future. I've been able to avoid it for now, but who knows what tomorrow brings?

I also need to cut back on the rationalizations. While I do generally believe that real sex is the final requirement to fully reprogram the brain back to a healthy sex life, I shouldn't be worrying about that now. That is final step in the master plan, and right now, I'm still in phase one. All the sex in the world won't make a difference if you haven't rebooted successfully.

More rationalizations to defeat - The idea that this stuff doesn't work and that I'm wasting my time. Besides the obvious fact that my libido has increased, and I'm becoming more sensitive to sexual images and thoughts, there would certainly be no harm in continuing even if it didn't work, right? The worst possible outcome of none of this working is that I miss out on a few months of masturbation. How this is translated into 'wasted time' can only be ascribed to an addicted brain trying to come up with reasons to justify it's urges. Even if this program does nothing for me (which has already been proven false), I lose nothing by continuing in it.

Lot of work stress lately, but it's temporary. My entire schedule changed from days to nights just recently, so that's been leaving me feeling tired and irritable, and more susceptible to relapse. My leg was also hurt from squatting a little too heavy in the gym recently, which has limited my ability to exercise. Lot of external stressors right now, but the good news is that they're temporary. If I can just make it through the next few days, I know I'll be back to my normal, cheery self.

I'm going to attempt to read more, meditate more often, and cut back on internet use. Well, maybe after this period of the next days when my work related stress has subsided. Don't want to kill too many addictions at once, lest it all blow up in my face. Slow and steady wins the race.

FINAL THOUGHTS:

I'm not going back to porn, but in some ways I wish I could, just to perform an experiment on myself. Like I said in a previous post, when I came back to porn after a period of abstinence, it was mind-blowing - neurons firing on all cylinders and dopamine being dumped into my brain like gas into a redlining 6.7 liter V12. I wish I could try that again, just to check my progress. Obviously, that would ruin my progress in the same stroke, but it'd be interesting to me.

Anyway, I met a super cute girl the other day. We have incredibly similar interests, and I think she likes me. I'm starting to like her. I think I'd like to take her out one of these days  8)
 

Promise

Well-Known Member
All of that trying to rationalize MO stuff is familiar to anyone trying to quit P.  Seems like you've got the right idea though, all of your rationalizations are bunkem!  Guess you didn't realise you were so irrational? :3

I think with that grey area stuff, you generally know yourself whether it's a trigger or not.  Stuff that revs your motor even a little is best avoided if possible during a reboot.

That goes for fantasy too.  If you're edging or MOing, avoid fantasy completely.  Especially porn fantasy.  Give your brain a rest from sex so it can rewire properly.

R.E. Final thought number 1:
Doesn't sound like a good idea :p it's not worth it.  Really you just want to be porn free entirely, even thinking about little experiments like that isn't helpful.

R.E. Final thought number 2:
Go for it! :D wish I had a special lady in my life right now!
 
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