I don't even know who I am anymore.

Disclaimer: I do not know how many times similar topics have been posted, or if I'm even on the right website to be making this post. Regardless, I hope there's some help for me out there. I will try to include a TL;DR at the end, because this will probably be very lengthy.

First of all hello users of Reboot Nation, I'm a 16 (17 in a couple months) year old male, and also a High School Senior. I began looking at porn and masturbating from a very young age, probably around when I was 10 years old. I began with basic straight stuff; predominantly hentai and girl-on-girl videos. During this time until I was about 14 (4 years into porn watching) I had countless crushes on other girls at my school, and dated a girl for a short period of time, which I enjoyed. Shortly after my relationship, one of my best friends told me that he had gay sex with another boy, and oddly to me this aroused me. I had never had an issue with gay attraction previously, but following this event I had the odd gay fantasy, but that was probably only once every several months at least.

As the years went by getting closer to the present day, I found myself increasingly drawn to gay porn. It got me aroused at a much faster and more intense rate than masturbating to straight stuff. It seemed that pushing it away only made it more desirable for me. This entire attraction made no sense to me whatsoever; I mean, when I'm out around friends or other guys I never get turned on by them or think about having sex with them. On the other hand, I still continued to fantasize about girls regularly, and held female crushes. The desire to be with another guy was just not there; the taboo was hot to think about, but I just didn't have the desire to actually participate in that. Each and every time I masturbated to gay porn I was hit with severe guilt and self-loathing, searching for reasons why I might be going through this.

Basically, the stages of my porn interests went from:

Lesbian>Lesbian/Straight>Straight>Shemale/Straight>Gay/Shemale

This is when I came to a realization: maybe it's the porn that's doing this to me. As a porn and masturbation addict, I have probably watched thousands of videos, looked at thousands of images, and blew through sexual fantasies with girls I knew like they were boxes of tissues. Only, I ran out of tissues, and am now forced to use the "used" ones from before. All in all, I think porn and my addiction has made straight sex or sex involving a female simply boring to me. You could say that I'm just making up excuses to make up for being gay, and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you were right, I question whether or not I'm actually gay all the fricking time. I mean, I've even gone as far as to masturbate to myself for crying out loud, because of the excitement it brought me. I don't want to be gay though; I still dream of being in a relationship with a beautiful girl, maybe even getting married and starting a family with said individual.

This is something that is destroying my life. Everywhere I ask people say things like: "just go with the flow and accept who you are!" or "you can never know what you are until you see for yourself" or "it's common for people to change their sexuality". I stress about this every single day, and it's giving me so much anxiety I just can't even think properly, and I don't know what I can do to free myself of this situation.

TL;DR: I thought I was a straight male, but have developed intense gay arousal. I theorize excessive porn use and addiction has made "normal" porn and related fantasies boring to me, drawing me toward that which is taboo in the search for more exciting/arousing material. This completely fills me with stress and self-hatred, and I don't know how I can change this.
 

SebUK

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DayInTheLife said:
Disclaimer: I do not know how many times similar topics have been posted, or if I'm even on the right website to be making this post. Regardless, I hope there's some help for me out there. I will try to include a TL;DR at the end, because this will probably be very lengthy.

First of all hello users of Reboot Nation, I'm a 16 (17 in a couple months) year old male, and also a High School Senior. I began looking at porn and masturbating from a very young age, probably around when I was 10 years old. I began with basic straight stuff; predominantly hentai and girl-on-girl videos. During this time until I was about 14 (4 years into porn watching) I had countless crushes on other girls at my school, and dated a girl for a short period of time, which I enjoyed. Shortly after my relationship, one of my best friends told me that he had gay sex with another boy, and oddly to me this aroused me. I had never had an issue with gay attraction previously, but following this event I had the odd gay fantasy, but that was probably only once every several months at least.

As the years went by getting closer to the present day, I found myself increasingly drawn to gay porn. It got me aroused at a much faster and more intense rate than masturbating to straight stuff. It seemed that pushing it away only made it more desirable for me. This entire attraction made no sense to me whatsoever; I mean, when I'm out around friends or other guys I never get turned on by them or think about having sex with them. On the other hand, I still continued to fantasize about girls regularly, and held female crushes. The desire to be with another guy was just not there; the taboo was hot to think about, but I just didn't have the desire to actually participate in that. Each and every time I masturbated to gay porn I was hit with severe guilt and self-loathing, searching for reasons why I might be going through this.

Basically, the stages of my porn interests went from:

Lesbian>Lesbian/Straight>Straight>Shemale/Straight>Gay/Shemale

This is when I came to a realization: maybe it's the porn that's doing this to me. As a porn and masturbation addict, I have probably watched thousands of videos, looked at thousands of images, and blew through sexual fantasies with girls I knew like they were boxes of tissues. Only, I ran out of tissues, and am now forced to use the "used" ones from before. All in all, I think porn and my addiction has made straight sex or sex involving a female simply boring to me. You could say that I'm just making up excuses to make up for being gay, and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you were right, I question whether or not I'm actually gay all the fricking time. I mean, I've even gone as far as to masturbate to myself for crying out loud, because of the excitement it brought me. I don't want to be gay though; I still dream of being in a relationship with a beautiful girl, maybe even getting married and starting a family with said individual.

This is something that is destroying my life. Everywhere I ask people say things like: "just go with the flow and accept who you are!" or "you can never know what you are until you see for yourself" or "it's common for people to change their sexuality". I stress about this every single day, and it's giving me so much anxiety I just can't even think properly, and I don't know what I can do to free myself of this situation.

TL;DR: I thought I was a straight male, but have developed intense gay arousal. I theorize excessive porn use and addiction has made "normal" porn and related fantasies boring to me, drawing me toward that which is taboo in the search for more exciting/arousing material. This completely fills me with stress and self-hatred, and I don't know how I can change this.
Hello ... a couple of points from me that will hopefully help you feel better.

1) It seems pretty clear from my research that people can develop problematic sexual tastes in their search for novel and shocking porn. This happened to me as well. Although I didn't end up at your end-point, I did go on very similar journey where I went from one type of porn to the next, constantly searching for novelty and increased shock. If you're aware of this, and it sounds like you are, then at least you can see that your sexual self hasn't evolved that way 'naturally', rather it has been caused by too much porn. Based on the experience of people here, if you give it up, your sexual tastes should eventually return to normal. Easier said than done of course.

2) Humans (and animals for that matter) seem to condition quickly to new sexual stimuli. I think there's a research paper on YBOP that shows how quickly a heterosexual rat can be reconditioned to enjoy homosexual activity with male rats. Thankfully, you can reverse that by conditioning yourself back to 'normal'. Again, easier said than done. But at least you know it's possible.

3) If you're really stressed and anxious and it sounds like you are, I'd strongly suggest some kind of therapy with a counsellor. I've found this immensely helpful. When you are all inside your head, they help you get out of it, and see your problem from perspective, and most importantly give you hope that you can be fixed.
 
Thanks so much for your response. It's good to see a rational comment based on human psychology, rather than liberal nonsense and general banter.
 

datkid93

Active Member
Going throught the same thing right now. You lucky that u discovered this at th e age of 16 with I could have figured what I was doing when I was younger. But there this still hope.  Just try rebooting and see where it takes u thats what im counting on rn.
 

Triptonicmaph

Active Member
Hello man.

I know exactly what you are talking about... Gary Wilson talks about it better than I ever could.

Here watch his video -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvyejdlmKpE

Go to 13:00 to listen about ur case but I highly recommend watching the entire video. IT REALLY HELPED ME.
 

depenz

Member
You are _not_ gay.

You have just rewired your brain with the shocking porn - that increased the rush of dopamines, so the wires connect really hard.

Just do a reboot and you will be fine!

There are lots of stories like this.
 

jjhh

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DayInTheLife said:
Basically, the stages of my porn interests went from:

Lesbian>Lesbian/Straight>Straight>Shemale/Straight>Gay/Shemale

That's is fairly common for many porn users.
Others go towards gay taboo porn, others go toward other taboos fetishes, for some it's the illegal stuff too I'm sure. Whetever shocks them just the right amount.
Others turn back sooner, others later.

Yes it can destroy your life. But reboot helps for sure.

 
jjhh said:
DayInTheLife said:
Basically, the stages of my porn interests went from:

Lesbian>Lesbian/Straight>Straight>Shemale/Straight>Gay/Shemale

That's is fairly common for many porn users.
Others go towards gay taboo porn, others go toward other taboos fetishes, for some it's the illegal stuff too I'm sure. Whetever shocks them just the right amount.
Others turn back sooner, others later.

Yes it can destroy your life. But reboot helps for sure.

Do you know of any threads or articles relating to beginning the path to rebooting?
 

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johngalt75321

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Hi DayInTheLife,

I know your original post has been answered many times now, but I thought I'd offer my two cents (and share a bit of my story, as I think I have a somewhat unique view from the other folks here).

You mentioned by you watched lesbian/straight porn until you were (at least) 14 (presumably puberty had long since started). This is NOT how I started porn, lol... (Btw, I am telling you my story, the story of a definitey gay persin, so you can compare it to your story. This might get a little long, so I apoligize in advance!).

I should mention that I am a 31 year old gay guy. When I was a teenager, I tried to date girls (because that was what you were SUPPOSED to do), and I should mention that I was not exposed to internet porn until probably 14 or 15. Anyway, despite pretending to be interested in girls, I was always attracted to guys. Long before I would admit it, I would think about guys naked, think about having sex with them, etc. I NEVER thought about girls (except when I was trying to comvience myself I was straight). And once I was no longer in total denial, I did (and do :) ) think about being in a relationship with guys.  And I certainly didn't start by looking at straight porn, much less lesbian porn. Only after looking at porn for a decade did I start looking at straight porn (and only for the novelty of it-never any interest in having sex with a woman).

Your experience (as you have described it) is completly opposite from mine. You started out on straight/lesbian porn. And only after years of watching you moved to gay porn. Gay people don't do this (I should know ... ;) ) Gay people start with gay porn, unless they are simply trying to convience themselves that they are straight. And this usually doesn't last for long.

While no one can know your sexuality except you, I'd bet the rent that you are a straight kid that has just watched too much porn. At most, you may be bisexual, though I really doubt it from what you've said.

However, a couple of things you said concern me: you said that you feel "severe guilt and self-loathing" when you jerked off to gay porn. And that "you don't want to be gay...you want to have a family, starting a family" etc.

First, if you are gay/bi (and I don't think you are) then you are what you are. No one chooses to be gay and so you shoudn't feel guilty about it. And also, guilt and shame have no usefulness here; all they do is lead to self-hatred and pain. And guess what? You will find a way to ease that pain, and PMO may be your method of choice. The point is that feeling guilty only makes it harder to get better, to become more healthful, to change your life. Much better to think "I want to live the most awesome life possible, and porn does not help this goal!" than to think "'man, I looked at gay porn, I am such a sick pervert"

Second, I thought I'd mention that being gay doesn't mean you can't get married or have a family. Plenty of gay people do just that. If you are gay, don't despair over this! And try not to think "I don't want to be gay"-believe me, that if that thinking worked, there would be no gays (not that gay people can't be perfectly happy, but it's just really hard being a gay teenager). You are who you are, and you'll figure all of this out soon enough.

Anyway, if you do the reboot and stop PMO, you'll at least know for sure if porn is the reason for your gay concerns. Sorry for writing a book, but I hope this helps!

Rock on!
 
johngalt75321 said:
Hi DayInTheLife,

I know your original post has been answered many times now, but I thought I'd offer my two cents (and share a bit of my story, as I think I have a somewhat unique view from the other folks here).

You mentioned by you watched lesbian/straight porn until you were (at least) 14 (presumably puberty had long since started). This is NOT how I started porn, lol... (Btw, I am telling you my story, the story of a definitey gay persin, so you can compare it to your story. This might get a little long, so I apoligize in advance!).

I should mention that I am a 31 year old gay guy. When I was a teenager, I tried to date girls (because that was what you were SUPPOSED to do), and I should mention that I was not exposed to internet porn until probably 14 or 15. Anyway, despite pretending to be interested in girls, I was always attracted to guys. Long before I would admit it, I would think about guys naked, think about having sex with them, etc. I NEVER thought about girls (except when I was trying to comvience myself I was straight). And once I was no longer in total denial, I did (and do :) ) think about being in a relationship with guys.  And I certainly didn't start by looking at straight porn, much less lesbian porn. Only after looking at porn for a decade did I start looking at straight porn (and only for the novelty of it-never any interest in having sex with a woman).

Your experience (as you have described it) is completly opposite from mine. You started out on straight/lesbian porn. And only after years of watching you moved to gay porn. Gay people don't do this (I should know ... ;) ) Gay people start with gay porn, unless they are simply trying to convience themselves that they are straight. And this usually doesn't last for long.

While no one can know your sexuality except you, I'd bet the rent that you are a straight kid that has just watched too much porn. At most, you may be bisexual, though I really doubt it from what you've said.

However, a couple of things you said concern me: you said that you feel "severe guilt and self-loathing" when you jerked off to gay porn. And that "you don't want to be gay...you want to have a family, starting a family" etc.

First, if you are gay/bi (and I don't think you are) then you are what you are. No one chooses to be gay and so you shoudn't feel guilty about it. And also, guilt and shame have no usefulness here; all they do is lead to self-hatred and pain. And guess what? You will find a way to ease that pain, and PMO may be your method of choice. The point is that feeling guilty only makes it harder to get better, to become more healthful, to change your life. Much better to think "I want to live the most awesome life possible, and porn does not help this goal!" than to think "'man, I looked at gay porn, I am such a sick pervert"

Second, I thought I'd mention that being gay doesn't mean you can't get married or have a family. Plenty of gay people do just that. If you are gay, don't despair over this! And try not to think "I don't want to be gay"-believe me, that if that thinking worked, there would be no gays (not that gay people can't be perfectly happy, but it's just really hard being a gay teenager). You are who you are, and you'll figure all of this out soon enough.

Anyway, if you do the reboot and stop PMO, you'll at least know for sure if porn is the reason for your gay concerns. Sorry for writing a book, but I hope this helps!

Rock on!

No need to apologize, that was a great post! It's pretty interesting to hear this all from the perspective of someone who knows for a fact that they're gay. Much of what you've said does indeed sound like a mirrored version of my situation, for example watching straight porn for the novelty of it, much like I feel like I've been drawn to gay porn for the novelty and taboo of it. You've definitely given me a fresh perspective and motivation to achieve my goals. Thank you! :D
 

chagrin

Member
I completely understand what you are talking about. I was (I am conditioning myself to talk about my addiction in the past tense) into looking at shockingly hard porn- showing things I would NEVER think of doing in real life. So I really believe what you get aroused by in the world of porn does not translate into what you may be into in real life. I must qualify this by saying I really don't know who I am either. I've had this addiction for a very long time- and I know it has altered my emotions and thought processes. What makes one who they are are so many small motivations and desires- the mind is a very delicate- but- thank God!- resilient instrument. You'll find your wy back to who you are and want to be. Everyone on here is going through a tough struggle. I'm keeping my eye on finding out who I am after my brain recovers from the punishment I've put it through. You've Realized you have a problem at an early age. You may not realize it- but you are INCREDIBLY lucky to have found this site at 16. Do everything in your power to stop the addiction in it's tracks as you seem to want to. You have a long life ahead of you- and you do not want it to be taken away by pornography. I'll end this ramble on that note.
 
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