Can someone explain to me about "relapsing" and what is considered a relapse. For example, is a relapse masturbating to porn, and binging or, can coming across or sometimes viewing erotic images be a relapse. The thing is I have been off porn since February 2014. And I read manga sometimes I do come across or read with erotic images, normally trying to avoid them. I have come to the conclusion that I am delaying recovery from what I read. But this has been a going thing, reading manga. And I'm scared that I havnt made any progress and that I have relapsed. I understand that I should be avoiding artificial stimuli and I am trying. Apart from not recovering which I will do, am I still ok and not relapsed. I feel like, I have not made any progress, and just put myself in a bigger hole. I didn't realise at first that erotic images were bad, I always thought that it was just the porn, until recently I didn't try to avoid it to much in the passed, so I feel like I havnt made progress and still at day 1. Sorry for the long post I hope someone gets what mean and can help me understand what I'm going through. I guess im finding it hard to stop manga, mainly because I havnt got anywhere else to turn to. I understand that I have done similar posts, Im just insecure, with anxiety nproblems and get really worried, especially when I feel like I have messed up.
Relapsing and images?.
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Our addiction is artifical stimulation. Any time we seek or indulge in artificial stimulation we relapse.
This covers: searching tube sites, google image bikini girls, hot girls on facebook, unintentionally seeing any arousing material and indulging rather than clicking away as quick as possible. All of these are varying degrees and some are worse than others. Perhaps unintentionally submitting your mind to erotic images (such as advertisements) has an affect but it's not technically a relapse. Just like masturbation, we definitely know that no masturbation can help the reboot for most and abstaining from orgasm when even having sex can increase the speed of recovery but they're not technically relapses.
You could try reading books for the time being? If you're masturbating I would stop that also and see how progress goes. If you haven't masturbated at all since feb, you may want to go to the doctor to rule out any other potential causes of ED. Assuming you even have PIED. Keep in mind we are seeing semi rare cases of people taking like 1.5-2 years for full recovery, but even most of those had some progress by now. If you still masturbate my moneys on that, otherwise go to the doc.
This covers: searching tube sites, google image bikini girls, hot girls on facebook, unintentionally seeing any arousing material and indulging rather than clicking away as quick as possible. All of these are varying degrees and some are worse than others. Perhaps unintentionally submitting your mind to erotic images (such as advertisements) has an affect but it's not technically a relapse. Just like masturbation, we definitely know that no masturbation can help the reboot for most and abstaining from orgasm when even having sex can increase the speed of recovery but they're not technically relapses.
You could try reading books for the time being? If you're masturbating I would stop that also and see how progress goes. If you haven't masturbated at all since feb, you may want to go to the doctor to rule out any other potential causes of ED. Assuming you even have PIED. Keep in mind we are seeing semi rare cases of people taking like 1.5-2 years for full recovery, but even most of those had some progress by now. If you still masturbate my moneys on that, otherwise go to the doc.
Maybe I have not been recovering at all then, while I do not seek out erotic stuff or stimulation I do come across it. I don't even know why I bother sometimes. I have been off porn for so long, and yet I might not even be making progress. No I dont masturbate at all. It's definitely porn addiction. Has anyone else got thoughts on this matter. Have I really messed things up for myself and do I need to start all over?
I have increase sensitivity, less depression, more motivation, I don't have pain in my balls and better erections then I used to, even if it's still bad. I'm scared, because I want to be in a relationship and recover for myself, but it isn't something I can do wholeheartedly right now, maybe it sounds like a excuse and maybe it is, but I have on going problems that force me to be excluded till I recover. I just wanted to be safe, feel like I am achieving something even if I cant fully recover right now. I will never seek porn or view it, I don't masturbate and I don't intentionally seek porn, but I don't avoid the triggers like I should. I'm stupid 
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So which is it? Progress is progress, whether you're still in pain or not.
Remember We're seeing cases that take 1.5-2 years of no porn and rewiring. Also some people after a long time of abstinence need to orgasm to jump start their libido. The only reason you can't have a relationship is because you say you cant. There are people on day 1 in relationships. You haven't M'ed or been on a porn site in 10 months, at this point it's your own brain working against itself. Sure you may need a few more months away from porn to be 100% but in the mean time you don't need to be 100% to be in a relationship. Remember rewiring is a big part of this too
Thank you for the replies, I might just be over thinking things and worrying to much. I will carry on reading manga, and be careful on what I view. That's the best I can do for now, well at least until I can do other pro active stuff. Although I'm still very unsure of myself, there's nothing else I can thing of.