Why I'm giving up masturbation for good.

Here's the deal. I regret to inform you that I relapsed several times over the past few weeks due to my high-stress job. However, I have been clean of porn and masturbation for the past five days. Due to this experience, I came to the conclusion that I do not want to masturbate ever again and here's why.

I was doing so good with my reboot from October, 2013 to July, 2014. This was nine months of no masturbation and no porn, in addition to some non-consecutive months of no masturbating starting in February, 2013. After those nine months I thought, "hey, I've done so good. I can probably introduce masturbating into my routine." I was wrong. First off, it is true that masturbation is not the problem, it's pornography that causes the addiction-related brain changes that lead us to support forums like these. However, people who have had porn-induced ED do not have the same brains as regular healthy people. We are desensitized. I noticed that as I started masturbating, even after nine months, it was very hard for me to do it without fantasizing about porn. In fact it was nearly impossible. I could try to fantasize about my limited number of sexual encounters, but I would subtly begin thinking about the countless hours of porn scenes I'd watched over the years, in order to get off.

This is a problem for me because watching porn and fantasizing about porn are really the same thing. You're activating the same addiction-related pathways and keeping them active. Porn is a unique type of addiction because it is the only one that can be accessed by our memories alone. So this fact alone is enough for me to realize that masturbation is something that I should probably just cut out altogether. It's as if wiring my brain for porn at such a young age, and for so many years, has made porn and masturbation synonymous.

Secondly, I party blame my masturbation for my sudden relapse. Not that it wasn't a failure of my own willpower, but as I began masturbating, I slowly started to rationalize porn. I thought, "I've been masturbating recently, so what's adding porn into the mix just once gonna do." Or, "masturbating and porn are really the same thing..." Before I knew it, I was starting to binge and I thought, "what the fuck are you doing!?!?! You're erasing progress at this point."

Anyways, my over all conclusion is that it's probably best to just not masturbate at all. Let me know what you think .   
 
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Nice post, I've reached similar conclusions through my experiences also.

I don't know enough about the brain to have any theories but if there is one thing I can claim is that rebooting with and without masturbation is most definitely a completely different experience for me. I know for a fact that when I went 36 days no porn, no masturbation and the recovery markers and feelings of recovery were very similar to 4 months no porn, while masturbating 1x week per month.

Almost every time I have relapsed to porn it's been because I M'd the day before or on that day.

Infact, if I remember correctly, the very first time I even M'd it was to a bra and undies catalog when I was maybe 11 or 12. I think this could very well be down to age and Ming without porn before discovering porn. Some older guys seem to be able to go back to M and have no problems or even M during the reboot.

It will be interesting to see what happens after 5 or even 10 years of no porn and then deciding to M.
 

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It's good to know you're still not falling down the porn-bing rabbit hole! That's the most important thing - pick yourself up, and keep going. You're doing great!

Yeah, I tend to agree about the masturbation thing. You're right - there isn't anything inherently wrong with masturbating, but I do think the safest and fastest way to reboot is by teaching yourself to live without masturbation. Like you stated, masturbation can easily escalate to porn use when you are in the heat of solo-arousal. Furthermore, I'd say the majority of people find their best progress on long no orgasms streaks, so quitting masturbating helps this as well.
 
Yeah man. I honestly felt most of the benefits of the reboot at the height of my no-masturbation streak. I felt a lot more confident, focused and I had tons of energy.
 
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