The Hard Recet

Gramaton

Member
It seems true what they say, I must have been nurturing this problem for years but didn't realise i had it until about a month ago, when I lost my virginity, at 24.

I don't remember when I started M, but it must have been around 13. I discovered M by accident really and unfortunately through the medium of fantasization, not sensation like they talked about on YBOP; I was lying in bed and began fantasizing about things and rubbing my body up and down the mattress untill I came, I never thought anything of it then and have 'masturbated' in this way to fantasy ever since, I don't think I've ever had an O without some fantasy or visual stimuli.

My teen 'Proto-Relationships' weren't good, I got cheated on with girls I really liked and lost confidence with women after that. I'm actually a very social person (and without sounding arrogant I'm objectively not bad looking) but got into a defence cycle of pre-emptively rejecting girls early on, mainly to avoid the pain of rejection myself, as such I didn't loose my virginity until a month ago.

I started M with fantasy, but didn't get onto P for a fair few years after that, I must have been around 18. and began using it fairly regularly, but usually with a sort of binge-abstain pattern, and as they say my taste got increasingly extreme, mainly various flavours of femdom stuff. I would go through phases, up to a couple of weeks long, of heavy use or fantasization, sometimes 'Edging' at this point, then calm it down for a week or so. I do know the feeling when you think of a scene and just have to go home and M, but didn't think it a big deal, ironically though it meant I had an extra high sex drive...

Anyhow that's been my pattern for the last few years, But I met this girl I really liked and we started getting together, I always assumed my body would just know what to do when the time came, and dancing with her in a club produced a massive erection, but when we got into bed I had real trouble getting it up, I did with a lot of 'body rubbing' together, and was able to maintain it throughout sex, but I didn't O, and it wasn't the strongest erection I've ever had, and I felt pretty much no excitement, just confusion and worry there was something wrong with me, I faked the O as best I could at the appropriate time. I thought your first time it's supposed to go off early with excitement!

So I've been pretty worried about myself since then, until I found YBOP and related to it so heavily I figure a reboot may be my only hope of a normal sexual relationship, right now its day 3 of no PMO, but as I say I've gone short times without PMO before without trying, so won't consider it a milestone until the 14 day mark. trying to pull some positives around me, so here ar the advantages I like to think I hold;

- I found this answer as soon as I saw the problem, so I feel I'm on a positive track straight out.
- I can go periods without needing P, and (sometimes, not always) have been able to resist the urge to M to it, so hopefully I'm not too heavily addicted, its more the PIED that's my worry.
- I was able to get it up and penetrate the girl I met with physical sensation, even if I wasn't very aroused, so I hopefully have retained a degree of penis sensitivity on which to build.

The main points that worry me are;

- Since I've really never M without fantasy, it could be a long time before I can O to sensation alone.
- I'm obviously very inexperienced with real women, and probably won't last with this girl I met now, and I feel interaction    with real women will be a major aspect of my personal recovery.
- M has become a response to stress, sadness, frustration and boredom for me, this emotional mapping is going to have to be rewritten as well.


I'll try to keep updated as to how I'm doing, and I'd appreciate any specific tips or pointers anyone can give me for my personal situation at this point, so do share your secrets please!
 

jnv

Well-Known Member
Hello there and welcome in this community!

My best advice would be to:
-get a counter, it'sa good incentive
-read other members' journals
-read lots of articles from YBOP so you get a better understanding.
-as you said, update regularly.


Best of courage mate!
 

Gramaton

Member
Day 4

Had a minor 'urge' yesterday evening, sat at my computer and a particular scene from my P days came up in my head, I became restless and lost concentration and my heart rate elevated, that's the kind of time I'd usually dive for the bed for a session, couldn't shift the image with other thoughts alone, so whipped out my phone and played Tetris on a high difficulty, worked a charm!

I'd figured if I could engage my brain on something high maintenance like a fast paced game you need to concentrate on there wouldn't be enough cognition left for the fantasy, and it worked! as I've said its still early days in my reboot and I have gone about 14 days free without much effort before, so I'm considering this "training" for now.

Morning wood this morning, and still feeling quite normal in myself

Keep the Faith everyone!
 

Gramaton

Member
Day 7

One week down, so far so good. here's a breakdown of how this first week has gone

PORN USE - Zero, though a housemate did show me some pornographic images on Thursday I felt no arousal and got away pretty quickly.

M/O - also zero, a few instances at risk of M but all averted with relative speed.

URGES/CRAVINGS - these persist, usually when I'm lying in bed before or after sleep, these are prime MO times for me, I guess my brain is still in that habit of 'few minutes of down time, time to M' most of these have been pretty easy to spot and divert my mind away, with a few exceptions, one of which I mentioned before, one also came to me in that morning half sleep, where you're just about to wake up (so kind of half porn dream, half fantasy) I started going along with it but came to and stopped before it went very far.

FANTASIES - The heavily pornographic ones are easy to spot, and thus pretty easy to distract myself from when I get a scene flashing up in my head. I do find that fantasies about real girls come into my head and are harder to spot, I'll find I've been thinking about them for a minute or so before stopping, I figure I should avoid these fantasies as well as they're still putting me in the old voyeuristic reward pathways even if the focus is someone I know, especially so early on in the reboot. What do you people think??

MORNING WOOD - seem to get it quite often now that I'm keeping track, though this could have been going on anyway without noticing, it's difficult to say.

LIBIDO - Low. I see attractive women on the street or really attractive women on tv and feel next to nothing, this has been the way of it for some time, unless I 'cast' them in an extreme porn fantasy. This is worrying me as things are still going on with the girl I mentioned before, and I'm worried we'll go to bed again and I'll have trouble again part of me wanted to break it off myself just so I can reboot in peace but it's my first real relationship and thus very important to me.

MOOD - As mentioned I think I'm worried or impatient with the speed of my progress and what will happen if I get into a clinch any time soon, I feel in a loose-loose situation with this girl, break off my first relationship with someone I like or embarrass myself with poor performance in the bedroom again at some point  :'(. generally I have up and down days, feeling fresh and clear on the right path to a healthier lifestyle, then feeling lost and depressed wondering if maybe I'm too far gone to be helped and must live alone like a unich forever. People have mentioned I've become quieter and sterner over the last week, it's down to worrying about how this process is going to go, if it's going to work.
 
Wow keep up the good work.  7 days is a nice early milestone.  I'm just beginning to log all the stuff I discover during my reboot and believe its a powerful support tool. Remember to always keep on guard especially as you feel more confidant and at ease in the reboot process.  This has always been a pitfall for me. Best of luck!
 
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