Edging?

[Mark123]

I'm sure this must have been asked before but I can't find the thread, so sorry in advance for asking the same question twice...

How do we define edging? On the guidelines of this forum it says "Edging: Masturbating without orgasm." Does this mean touching yourself in anyway, shape or form - even just a couple of strokes? Or does it mean masturbating to almost the point of orgasm? Or anything in between?

if anyone can link me to a thread or clarify that would be great

Thanks

 

[challenged]

I don't believe edging is merely touching yourself.  Typically, edging refers to the practice of M just short of O or just short of the point of no return (as some people put it).  It is sometimes used as a technique to build stamina, or to help with PE.  It would seem to me, based on what I've read on this site, that the problem with edging repeatedly is that you are bombarding yourself with hit after hit of dopamine, and it seems that this problem would be magnified if one is close to O (as opposed to just touching yourself). 

 

[Mark123]

I don't believe edging is merely touching yourself.  Typically, edging refers to the practice of M just short of O or just short of the point of no return (as some people put it).  It is sometimes used as a technique to build stamina, or to help with PE.  It would seem to me, based on what I've read on this site, that the problem with edging repeatedly is that you are bombarding yourself with hit after hit of dopamine, and it seems that this problem would be magnified if one is close to O (as opposed to just touching yourself).

Thanks for the reply - what's the problem with having lots of dopamine in your system? does it have adverse effects if i'm trying to recover from ED and DE...which I am

Thanks again

 

[challenged]

The problem is not dopamine per se, it is how you get it.  If you are edging to porn, you are rewiring your brain to get repeated hits of dopamine from porn, and strengthening this pathway, to the detriment of the pathways that involve sex with a real person and dopamine from IRL sex.  The result is that when you have sex with a real person, the brain does not respond as it should (because it's not porn) and this can cause your ED and DE.

This video explains it quite well.  I highly recommend it.

http://yourbrainonporn.com/erectile-dysfunction-and-porn

 

[NeverSayNever]

what if you edge without porn? I thought the dopamine surge happens when we ejaculate and my understanding was actually  practicing how to edge without porn is one of the recommended paths to a non ejaculatory, multi-orgasmic man

 

[challenged]

I guess I a little bit uncertain about what you're asking exactly.  If a person never had a porn issue, then it would seem to me that edging would probably be ok, and could conceivably have some benefits in terms of delaying with PE, learning to buy multi-orgasmic, etc.

But I went back and read one of your earlier posts, and you said you struggled with PMO for over a decade, and that it has impacted in a negative way your sexual performance.  If that is the case, then it seems to me that your focus should be on eliminating PMO from your life, and resolving the basic sexual issues associated with that, including ED or DE.  If I were you, I would stay away from edging myself while you are in the rebooting process, and until you are completely healed.  And I would not worry at this point about becoming a multi-orgasmic man, etc.  IMO, you need to get healthy first. 

For example, if you have a fear of flying, you should work on resolving that issue so you can, for example, fly across the country in a commercial airliner and visit your relatives.  I would put off thinking about becoming an astronaut and going to the space station until you resolve the first issue.

Just my $.02.

 

[ready2go]

For me, edging in the arms of a human partner might be desirable after having many experiences of orgasming with that person without the edge events to reinforce the pathway of having erection, build and finish with them.  Just a simple start, build, and finish.  Edging to the beat of my own fist would, I think, continue to deepen or widen that neuro pathway where my partner is my own hand, so that my interests would lie in my fist, as opposed to the arms of someone else. 

My goal is to get those erections with someone else and I've already proven thousands of times I can do it on my own.  I just can't with anyone else yet and also not very successfully on my own anymore.  I want to do it with someone else. 

You may be having a different set of experiences.

 

[Mark123]

I would not worry at this point about becoming a multi-orgasmic man, etc.  IMO, you need to get healthy first. 

For example, if you have a fear of flying, you should work on resolving that issue so you can, for example, fly across the country in a commercial airliner and visit your relatives.  I would put off thinking about becoming an astronaut and going to the space station until you resolve the first issue.

Hi Challenged,

Thanks for the post - very helpful.

I'm not worried about multi-orgasm, I just want to be able to express myself to my girlfriend as much as I and she want me to which basically means me O'ing for her - which I currently have trouble with. I don't intend on edging and haven't since the start of my reboot, but was just wondering about how to define it and to know the dangers of it, as I have been touching myself lightly-only a few rubs before I realise what I am doing and stop, when i rearrange myself or in the shower when washing etc.

Wanted to know if that was detrimental or not, but appears it shouldn't impact on sensitivity too much if I'm not pushing myself to the brink of O??

Thanks again