When your partner stops communicating about their reboot

Living in separate cities and only seeing each other a week every two weeks is difficult.  Since he told me about his addiction and desire to "feel normal again" it has been a guessing game.  He is moody constantly.  I can't tell if it's reboot or post porn viewing drama.  He can finally get a full erection and has morning wood.  He still cannot maintain an erection standing.  I am constantly trying to figure out what the f is going on with him since he's pretty much refused to talk about where he is saying "it's all embarrassing".  I have become a detective and of course found porn on his computer and I pad...I took his I pad.  I installed a blocker on his home computer system but then noticed he added GB to our phone plan.  Any advice on getting him to open up, etc?  I actually put him on a porn addiction web site that emailed him and he got pissed.  He wont read any of the books I've bought him and told me to stop sending him success stories of post users.  I've caught him on porn right after sex when I was visiting.  I won't let him take his phone into the bathroom with him anymore.  He once got pissed about it but now just leaves it on the counter.  I feel like his mother.  If he was truly about totally quitting I don't feel I would have to police him.  He's made comments to me like..."it's hard for me to give up things I really like", "I went 30 days and it was torture", "I have to do things a little at a time"....do you really cut back?  This past week he said "when I view it I don't look at it sexually"....wtf??!! Am I supposed to buy that?  My favorite line is "I can't help it"...he's in neuro science, he knows exactly what he's doing.
 

malando

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I posted this in another thread too, but wanted to repeat it here

My god, that's horrendous treatment you are experiencing! (I saw your other post on this too) He is not showing you any respect, love or kindness when he does that. I can tell you now: he doesn't want to quit. And more than that, he doesn't even care enough about your relationship to be nice to you and think about how you feel. I have to question why you would stay with a guy like this when he can say such cruel things (yeah, I know you love him, but is he the guy you think he is?) I think you need to draw a line in the sand and tell him if he says one more comment about sex being too much work or "go find someone else", or any other cruel stuff, you're out. I can't even imagine talking to anybody like that - let alone my partner. It's disgraceful. Sorry, but I can't go easy on this kind of behaviour. It's narcissistic, selfish and cruel. He needs psychological help.

As a man, I can tell you there's no perspective I can reach where this treatment can be justified. And yes, I'm a recovering P addict. I never became cruel to my partner though. It's not her fault.

Please take care of yourself and don't let yourself be denigrated this way.
 

Emerald Blue

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My suspicion is that he hasn't quit and from what he says he doesn't really see any need to be "giving up what he really likes" as he puts it. You want him to quit. He doesn't seem willing or able to. You can't police him. You can't control his behavior. That's the bottom line. Tough love, and all that. He has to want to quit. If not, there's nothing you can do.

The question is, do you want to be with him if he won't quit? Because that's your only option. Him + porn. Or not at all.

Personally I would not want to be in a relationship with someone where I was always having to monitor their behavior, their internet usage, or whatever, because they are hooked on porn and refuse to quit. That's your situation. You can't change him. He has to want to change otherwise he won't. You can only change your own behavior, nobody else's.

OK. My relationship was probably different to yours in that we had a history before Internet porn fucked up our sexual relationship, and even thoughout a very long period of porn addiction there were parts of our relationship that were still strong. His porn habit went on for 15 years, maybe 20+ years before he quit. But he wouldn't quit. In the early years, when I found out, he said he wouldn't watch it anymore. But it kept on happening. He learned to hide it better so I wouldn't find it. But he never quit. Eventually I realised I had to catch him in the act to prove he was still watching it. So I did exactly that. But that didn't change anything. I didn't know what else to do. So I gave up trying. But the sad truth is that at that time he had no intention of quitting.

I won't repeat my story but it took many years for him to even suspect it was causing him problems. Eventually porn wasn't doing for him what it did in the early days. I'm not sure whether he went further than "just porn". I suspect he might have but I won't go there. His porn use had long since killed off our sex life so I have no fucking idea what was going on with him. I always feared the day when porn would no longer be enough because he wasn't showing any interest in me. But anyhoo...it had to go right to the eve of destruction before it stopped once and for all.

Quite honestly, living like that was destroying me. I thought I could accept it, deal with it. I thought he was "happy" with porn because it was what he wanted. In the early years I think it was true that he'd rather have porn than a sexual relationship with me. He never made any effort for me at all but he couldn't stay away from the porn. He said he would quit but he never did. I gave up. Confrontations over porn were stress all the way. Nothing ever changed so why put myself through it all over again? But I wish I'd been stronger and decided not to tolerate it. Pull the plug on the internet connection, whatever it took, counselling, telling him to choose between me or the porn, not putting up with it. But what did I do? Nothing. Could I have stopped him? Probably not. But I should have prevented the situation from hurting me. Living with that hurt and the powerlessness and helplessness has really fucked me up. I was a basket case by the time it all came crashing down. That's when he realised what his porn had done to me and to our relationship. I wish it had never came to that. Years of misery pretending to myself I was fine with it. Well, not exactly 'fine' but accepting as long as I didn't have to think about it. In reality I suffered in silence for years.

So don't do it. Don't suffer needlessly. Think about yourself and what YOU want. Porn addiction will fuck up your life. Make an informed decision. He won't be quitting any time soon and even if he can stay off for a while it might be on/off/on/off indefinitely and it will drive you mad. Don't compromise your sanity. Don't compromise your dignity, your self esteem, or your mental health.

 

stillme

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IT sounds like you are the one pushing for his recovery and that is never going to work. Porn addiction is just like alcohol and drug addiction - no one else can make you quit, the person has to want to quit and get in the driver's seat for their own recovery. I remember a quote by Maya Angelou, "When someone tells you who they really are, believe them." Your partner is telling you that at this moment in his life, he is a porn user and one who doesn't feel like he is a porn addict. While he may be a porn addict (and probably is a porn addict), he doesn't think he is. That means, he isn't going to commit in the way necessary to truly recover and have a good life with you.

So, like Emerald Blue said - you are going to either choose being in a relationship with a porn addict or leaving the relationship. Those are your only two options at this point. After our d-day (I had no idea my husband was using porn), my husband felt ashamed and immediately starting taking steps to recover and haven't looked back. The reality is, he didn't have a choice if he wanted to stay married to me. Even with our long term marriage and kids in the home - there was no way I was going to live with a porn addict. I thought there was some true, possibly even medical reason for our lack of sex. To find out it was just him jacking off to porn - nope, I wasn't going to stay around for that insanity. So, he knows - porn or me and no other option is available. It sounds like your partner is telling you - accept him with the porn or don't accept him at all. If you desire a healthy, loving, balanced relationship where your needs are also met, where you are treated with dignity and respect - it may be time to let him go.
The thing almost every single porn addict I have seen has admitted is - they are never satisfied. They always end up needing more - more porn, more fantasy, more hardcore. Whatever he is watching today won't be enough to satisfy him tomorrow. It isn't like accepting his porn use will mean things we stay as they are, it will only get worse, more intense, more dark. I would not sign up for that with my eyes wide open.
 
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