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laalee

Active Member
So i am a Gay male,
forget about dating, because it doesn't happen for me  single 6 years now and it is not that i haven't tried dating
sites but it does not work for me.  Anonymous sex yes no worries easy as. But i do not want this either  So my question is if i pay an escort whom i like and attracted to  is this no good for the reboot " Having sex with a real person"

love the replies please
 

laalee

Active Member
Cleaned room up today found a porn Dvd shit got to be so careful with this stuff threw it out.
Yesterday wass a nice day here really wanted to PMO but just a quick M kinda edged M is not a problem for me it is PMO
Today shit day and still feel like PMO fuk
 

laalee

Active Member
Hi all been on Re-Boot nation for cpl months now and feel a bit dissapointed for support.
How does one get support on here plz feeling desperate and nearly re-booted :'( :'(
 

laalee

Active Member
Horrible couple of nights the weather is shit feel low depressed. Have had huge issues with family just want to zone out and say fuck it all.  Sick of feeling lonely want a partner to share my life and problems with hate i a m an Addict over it.

81days no pmo
60 something no intentionally lk at porn
7 months no sex
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
 

Anothertry

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Hi Lalalee,

Wanted to offer some support.  Good to see that you seem to be doing so well with your reboot - lot's of clean time, that's great!

My only thought about the escort is to be a little careful.  It's not porn - but browsing sites to find the perfect guy, being able to decide exactly what happens, looking for the perfect encounter...people can get addicted to that.

I know one guy who got addicted to escorts.  More expensive than porn, and he ended up bankrupt.  Worth thinking about before you act anyway.

As far as the dating goes - I wonder if this analogy might help:

Imagine if the water stopped working in my flat.  I kept on turning on the taps - no water.  Well, I'm connected to the mains, so eventually I would think, hmmm....better take a look at the pipe work to see where the problem is, or call in a plumber.

I guess my thought is that there are plenty of guys out there (in my analogy, you are connected to the mains) but the 'water' isn't coming through - and hasn't for six years - maybe worth taking a step back and looking at the reasons?  Are you not good at dating sites, maybe?  Is there some other way to meet people? Might you have friends who you trust to be completely honest, and who could give you some helpful advice on what might be going on/maybe even help you to hook up?

Just a thought.  Six years is a long time without a relationship.  Might be time to step back and have a look at why things haven't worked in that time, and whether you could do something to change that.  Sometimes a small change makes a big difference!  I really hope you find someone - I'm rooting for you!

Just wanted to offer that thought.  Hope it's helpful.  Realise advice isn't always.  But mostly wanted to let you know I read your posts, feel for you - and wish you all the very best.

AT.

 

laalee

Active Member
Thank you Anothertry,

its very nice of you to respond to my post it really helps. I do see what you say about escorts.  The problem i have also is that i am a sex addict.  So for me to pay someone i am attracted to and sexually attracted to is something new for me and not doing it with any stranger which usually lasts for 5 mins and we do not even talk. And that has started the shame cycle for me fear guilt shame un worthy.

I guess why i say that is because i was sexually abused at 11, i was told not to say anything to anyone and only would please my abuser.  There was no love hugs kisses etc purely me doing sexual acts on him and hiding it.  I did that for many years to follow with all anonymous sex.  That is why i think an escort is different in many ways.  If i could find someone nice date fall i n love i would def go there but like i said dating has not worked for me.  It could be my problem as i am also socially awkward but made the effort to date and do things different.  Having these dates have brought up me not feeling good about my self, looks weight etc and i also suffer from body image disorder.  I am pretty normal but this is how it effects me. I have distorted view of my self i know also that i am a good person i love i respect and all pretty much a good person so i know it is not my personality either.

I have stopped going out to clubs because i do not want to go get drunk and end up with some random like i use to do.  I have stopped myself from doing a lot of behaviors that i did before and those included meeting men.  So i am trying to re build in healthy ways and that is why i tried dating so not sure.  I hope more people respond i am not trying to get attention or pity myself but that is how i feel im sick of thinking about all this stuff daily and i do believe it is part of pmo withdrawal.
 

Anothertry

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Hi Lalalee,

Glad my post helped - and you are doing fantastically well abstaining from P all this time. And looking after yourself by not going to clubs that leave you feeling bad. You are really making such a positive effort to change.  I hope you are really proud of yourself for that.  You deserve to be.

As far as the escorting goes, I am not sure that you will get much out of it, to be honest.  I have only slept with a prostitute once.  But my experience was that it lacked any intimacy.  Even if a prostitute says something nice about you - part of you knows they are doing it because they are paid.  It might last longer than 5 minutes, and I guess with an escort you can take them for dinner, but even people I know who use escorts describe the experience as a fairly empty one.  Exciting, perhaps - but not intimate.  And there are people out there - if they know you are lonely - they will exploit that.  Once you have called an escort, they have your number too....As I say, it's your call....and you would probably learn something about yourself, sex and intimacy from the experience....but I'm not convinced this is a great way forward, if I was to give my honest advice.

I was really sorry to hear about your experience of abuse. That is an awful thing to have gone through.  And it does sound likely that alot of the problems you are experiencing may be related to that.  You learned that sex does not involve hugs, kisses, love or care.  That it was something secret, to be ashamed of.  And, I don't know if this is true of you, but many people who have been abused even feel it was their fault!  Of course, it wasn't.  They were a child.  The abusing adult has so much power in that situation.  I only say this as I know this feeling - that somehow the child is to blame - can lead to so much shame in later life.  Life can become coloured by that emotion...

Children need love, care and fun...and some boundaries!  Adults should provide these. Adults that break boundaries and create despair....christ!  Words fail me.  It's so wrong.

So I have two suggestions...obviously take what is helpful and leave the rest.  The first one is more of a question: have you ever addressed the abuse in therapy?  This can be extremely powerful, and start to make it feel much safer to develop an intimate relationship.  If you can't afford therapy, pretty sure if you google, there will be support groups in your area for adult survivors of sexual abuse.  Of course, you may already have been down this route....

Second suggestion, is that if you are really determined to part with cash for sex...have you thought about sexual surrogacy?  This is a slightly controversial area ii sex therapy, but surrogates are people who are trained to develop relationships with people that involve sex, but focus on helping them in personal growth - so for example, if intimacy in sex is difficult, actively working on that.  Just a thought.

Finally, I would say that most of us have patterns in relationships.  Mine seems to be to date people with Borderline Personality Disorder.  Three out of five of my ex-girlfriends have this diagnosis! Honestly, you would think I hung out outside personality disorder clinics going, 'hey baby...how you doin'?'  But I don't.  I just seem to find myself mysteriously attracted - often at first sight - to people who say a few months later, 'listen, there's something you should really know about my mental health...'.  These women have often been great people - but unable to ultimately commit, it made them too anxious,  The conclusion I've come to is that I need to find a way of changing myself in order for my relationships to change.  There must be something in me that is attracted to people who have tremendous difficulty committing, who go from thinking you are basically God one moment, to deciding you are the devil the next... It's why at the moment I'm much more focused on personal growth than dating.

So my thought is if your pattern could be described as, 'I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member' (you describe a lot of low self-esteem) you won't find a club that wants you to join!  Perhaps this is a good thing to work on - finding a way to value yourself?



These things can change, they really can.

All the best,

AT.

 

laalee

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Feel very triggered tonight warm weather always gets me going, not sure if i should re set my counter as i looked at porn for literally a minute did not pmo turned it off as soon as i could

OMG felt sexual tonight like i said warm weather people not wearing much hot people around possibly a date on weekend triggers triggers triggers
 

laalee

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So i just noticed i have reached my goal of 90 days how do i feel? well i was meant to have a date tonight with a real person guess what
they stood me up so i guess you all no how i am feeling cant believe it. But that is why i became a pmo addict i will tell more not feeling good. :'(
 

jjacks

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That's a tough situation to deal with. The issue seems to be the loneliness, not the urge.

I was there one time and I started reaching out to old friends, people I had lost touch with because life got in the way. I re-established a connection to my "best buddy" from years ago. We lost touch once both of us got married. He was now divorced and I slipping into porn addiction behind my wife's back.Having him back in my life took away some of that loneliness.
 
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