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chickaboomski

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Hey guys, found this on fight the new drugs facebook page today. Thought it may be helpful.
http://fightthenewdrug.org/finally-help-for-women-betrayed-by-their-partners-porn-addiction/
 

AnonymousAnnaXO

Active Member
I've seen that on Fight The New Drug, but the cost makes me hesitant. If anyone does sign up, can you guys tell me if it's worth the cost? Thanks!
 

sjunior7

Member
Hey I've been with FTND and have the Fortify Program App it does a great job of explaining what we are going through but you have to be consistent similar to taking a course online and that's where I fell off. It's not for everyone but if you can keep on top of those videos I have no doubt that you will get a better understanding of what we are going through.
It isn't as communal as Reboot nation though which I didn't like and I had to find my own AP which turned out to be people that couldn't relate or support me in the way I felt like I should have been supported.
Keep on fighting!
 

AnonymousAnnaXO

Active Member
Oh wow, okay well that's good to hear! I have to just save up a bit before I start but if you find any of the other videos helpful PM me JKS?
 

Gracie

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I just went to the Bloom site.  It is now 99.00 a month.  So addicts get lots of free resources and we have to pay?  Nope not happening
 

Loleekins

Active Member
Gracie said:
So addicts get lots of free resources and we have to pay?

I've paid quite enough mentally and emotionally. Financially isn't a place for me to go.

Though I do find it interesting that they create a market that exploits people's sex drives, impulses, etc...and then create another market to profit again on the backside when the initial market has caused sufficient damage!

Profit all the way around. Amazing.
 

Anona

Member
Loleekins said:
Gracie said:
So addicts get lots of free resources and we have to pay?

Though I do find it interesting that they create a market that exploits people's sex drives, impulses, etc...and then create another market to profit again on the backside when the initial market has caused sufficient damage!

Profit all the way around. Amazing.

One of my favorite subjects..-
guess why I do not recommend pseudoscience like counselling...

bigsex.jpg

Money and power..- guess they are addicted to it.
 

Loleekins

Active Member
Anona said:
Loleekins said:
Gracie said:
So addicts get lots of free resources and we have to pay?

Though I do find it interesting that they create a market that exploits people's sex drives, impulses, etc...and then create another market to profit again on the backside when the initial market has caused sufficient damage!

Profit all the way around. Amazing.

One of my favorite subjects..-
guess why I do not recommend pseudoscience like counselling...

http://www.whale.to/b/b
Money and power..- guess they are addicted to it.
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The amount of markets that either emerge or benefit on the backside are pretty numerous.

Mental health market - promotes porn and wanking as "healthy" and "normal". PA's and family members then show up in their offices crying for help. Couch time = money. Kickbacks from pharma 'scripts = money. Websites pop up with couseling and fees. Books are written and sold. Life coaches come out of the woodwork. All wanting your wallet.

Pharma market - sees profits rise as their meds are doled out for depression and anxiety (thanks mental health market!). PA's in their 20's and 30's routinely purchase ED meds due to PIED resulting in more profit (thanks medical market!).

Medical market - many times a GP is the first help sought resulting in referral to the Mental health market. Money. PA's run to the doctor (GP type initially) for PIED, resulting prostate issues, testosterone checks, etc. GP's routinely refer out to a Urologist. More money. Then all the drugs perscribed = even more money.

Then there's the hokey "aid" market. Penis pumps, herbal cures, vitamin mixtures, etc that all come about because PA's penis has literally been beaten to death. What's hilarious to me about this market is they advertise right beside the porn! They (porn providers) know exactly what's happening physically and mentally to men and seek to profit (click ads) from the hokey "aid" market as well.

Lawyers. Increase in divorce rate = increase in cases = increase in money.

There's so many markets affected. How about ISPs? Porn traffic is huge. Websites cost money. Bandwidth, more money. Include politicians in this list who take huge support money from porn lobbyists. Tech companies know that AR and VR porn are going to be common and a large percentage of their products will be purchased solely for this reason. They are cranking out their products accordingly. Cable companies (comcast, dish, etc) have very large profits from porn. The hotel industry pipes it into your room and charges a premium price resulting in a premium profit. Btw, do you drive a GM vehicle? Direct tv is a subsidiary of General Motors who gets large profit from porn in turn giving GM a porn profit! Yep, even industries you never thought were linked are in fact linked.

It's a big network of stuff. Pretty sickening.

Edit correction - GM sold Direct tv to AT&T recently. So now it's from car you drive to phone plan you have! Good grief, it's endless.
 

Anona

Member
Loleekins..-
You got it, I feel like I found a soulmate, or better, a mutual investigator into this dirty industry.
Have you read any of  Judith Reisman s work ?
She is one of the coolest people ever born. Her comments of the "great" Kinsey report is gold, pure gold.
 

Loleekins

Active Member
Anona said:
Loleekins..-
You got it, I feel like I found a soulmate, or better, a mutual investigator into this dirty industry.
Have you read any of  Judith Reisman s work ?
She is one of the coolest people ever born. Her comments of the "great" Kinsey report is gold, pure gold.

I have. I agree with much of what she says.

My personal opinions on Kinsey and the "sliding scale" are he was a perpetrator of confirmation bias. HE was on a "sliding scale" in most things (pedophile, chronic masturbator, porn junkie, obsessed with perversion) and sought to normalize it to a great degree for personal vindication. Orchitis proved a great equalizer. Mother Nature is not to be trifled with.  ;)

Kinsey's contemporary, Reich, well, Einstein said it best...Reich told Einstein in confidence that most people considered him (Reich) mad. Einstein replied dryly, ?I can believe that.? I share Einstein's opinion. He was a nutjob.

Link edit - if you are interested in what we are talking about re: Kinsey see pdf below.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/Kinsey_Crimes_and_Consequences.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjd7P_4uv7RAhWrgVQKHbjyDI8QFghVMAw&usg=AFQjCNE83N3mFyesGe5tneV6VzmjcAg-Ew
 

Anona

Member
Loleekins, We could probably discuss the motif for promoting to sexualice everybody and promote any kind of sex, mastrubation and porn from cradle to grave, but there is no question both and going even further back, Freud was funding fathers of free porn and more deviant behavior.
I do question why PAs normally do not investigate what started it all, and who they can thank for easy access, and their addiction.
 

Loleekins

Active Member
Anona said:
Loleekins, We could probably discuss the motif for promoting to sexualice everybody and promote any kind of sex, mastrubation and porn from cradle to grave, but there is no question both and going even further back, Freud was funding fathers of free porn and more deviant behavior.
I do question why PAs normally do not investigate what started it all, and who they can thank for easy access, and their addiction.

I don't encounter many people that think like that anymore. People today don't seem to care about the origins of things. They seem to just want to partake in the result mindlessly. Times have changed, people have changed with them. Not for the better.

Have you read Libido Dominandi?
https://www.amazon.com/Libido-Dominandi-Liberation-Political-Control/dp/1587314657/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1337264596&sr=1-1#

Degenerate Moderns looks interesting as well.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/092989104X/ref=pd_aw_sim_14_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9CWG9VNKYA06P20BBSKR&dpPl=1&dpID=A1tXEjpy7BL#
 

Anona

Member
No, can't say I have read any of them, I am still piecing it together, but the more pieces i get, everything seems more and more like a conspiracy.
Maybe a paperback is what I need to supplement my digging.
I will start with a few of his clips on You Tube to see where he gets it from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUk3RPWvvtc
Thanks for your recomendation.


I do not want to return to "The good old days" when Catholic Magdalene Asylums was blooming and adoption and illegal abortion was the solution.
Abolishing porn and get a "War on porn" Like the "War on drugs" is neither an solution.

I just do not get why they say they fight to stop using porn, they relapse again and again and have all the time in the world to replace their habit/addiction and we know that knowledge is power, so it make 100% sense to me to follow the money.
Instead of blaming the actors in porn, they should start looking behind the scene.
 

Loleekins

Active Member
Anona said:
No, can't say I have read any of them, I am still piecing it together, but the more pieces i get, everything seems more and more like a conspiracy.
Maybe a paperback is what I need to supplement my digging.
I will start with a few of his clips on You Tube to see where he gets it from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUk3RPWvvtc
Thanks for your recomendation.


I do not want to return to "The good old days" when Catholic Magdalene Asylums was blooming and adoption and illegal abortion was the solution.
Abolishing porn and get a "War on porn" Like the "War on drugs" is neither an solution.

I just do not get why they say they fight to stop using porn, they relapse again and again and have all the time in the world to replace their habit/addiction and we know that knowledge is power, so it make 100% sense to me to follow the money.
Instead of blaming the actors in porn, they should start looking behind the scene.

I should add that I can't and don't subscribe to his "Jews" stance. Though he has points that in tracing history you do encounter Jewish people and a religious battle for the minds of the populace of that time. However, I don't buy into all the "Jewish agenda" nonsense. The value of his work lies in the historian aspect for me, for there, he's exceedingly accurate.
 

Anona

Member
Well, since Judith Reisman is a jew, and we both seems to like her, let's agree there is good people and bad people in any religion.
My concern with reading a catholic authors book, is not that he is a childmolester even if there are a big number of catholic priests that never have answered for their crimes. 
:)
This evening have given me enough curiosity to order the book.
 

Loleekins

Active Member
Anona said:
Well, since Judith Reisman is a jew, and we both seems to like her, let's agree there is good people and bad people in any religion.
My concern with reading a catholic authors book, is not that he is a childmolester even if there are a big number of catholic priests that never have answered for their crimes. 
:)
This evening have given me enough curiosity to order the book.

Lol well said, Anona! Refreshing to see that you are a fellow critical thinker able to shove aside all the dogma and claptrap to search for the truth under it all. :)
 
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