i agree, although ive also heard theories that when one bangs alot of chicks he becomes more of a "man" and is more grounded and successful in relationships. he becomes better equipped to pass the "shit tests" and gain respect from the girl, which i have not been successful at since i have very little experience. this is what kind of thing the pickup community teaches and it seams dead on. sure some of them will manipulate the girls emotionsto sleep with them, but girls are consious human beings and if they choose to be that weak minded than so be it. seeing a nude women in real life and getting intimate with her is completely different than porn, and its crazy to think that. ive recently visited a strip joint with a friend just to see what its all about and i wanted to test the status of my reboot (and thats pretty much the only easy way to do it). having a real lap dance was incredibly pleasurable and in a completely different way compared to porn! it felt so personal and porn doesent at all. and their was no overwelming surge of negative enegy like i had just dropped a toaster in the bathtub! which is how it feels now if i opened up a page full of boobs, the surge is just mind scrambling an i want to click out immediately. but i got instant wood when she touched me wich felt amazing! and we got to know each other and talked for awile too. i feel like ive successfuly rewired myself to real women from visiting that strip joint, and it didnt at all give me urges to watch porn it made me want a real women i can touch and talk to, wich for us rebooters is a huge challenge since a real women requires you have a well developed personality and self esteem wich alot of us must start from scratch building up.