90 days without PMO. Angry with the lack of response.

[Alex48]

I ask something. I am 90 days without PMO, and I do not know how to continue advancing. This abstinence plan is fine, but after that what? Is there someone who clearly explains what happens if you go back to M, or to sexual encounters, always without P? The accent is put on the accountant. Good! but after that? We forget the most important part I think. Everything revolves around seeing how strong you are without M, without O, without P. Perfect! But, his page lacks something to clarify about what happens after the restart, otherwise we have efforts without clear objectives.
I remember quitting smoking at 30, and the book I read, which worked perfectly, put the accent on how good you felt when you got rid of the addiction, it wasn t put the accent only on the effort, it showed you that there was something beyond the bridge.
I'm in 90 days without PMO, and I do not know what the fuck to do, if I can M. How. Is the work done lost ?. One and a thousand questions to which I do not find a clear answer.
I know, link and more link. A lot of dispersion about this point. Nothing concrete.
Sorry if i result too honest, but i need help about this, i need more information, to go out and be safe about i m walking in the right direction. 
And even saying all this, I recommend one and a thousand times to do the program.
Sorry if my english is not the best!

 

[57yrold]

What goal are you trying to reach?

For me it's simple.  I have PIED (porn-induced erectile dysfunction) so I'm giving up PMO until that's cured.

It won't matter when I hit 90 days, or 100 days, or whatever.  I will continue no PMO until I'm cured.

But even then, I will not go back to porn and masturbation.  I will only O with my wife.

I personally don't think of this as a restart, or a program.  For me it's a complete life change.

I will never look at porn again.  Period.
I will not masturbate, as I want to be cured of my PIED.
I will not O until I can O inside my wife.

Just because I hit 90 days does NOT mean I just go back to MO with no porn.  I'm trying to achieve a goal and I'll keep going until I do.  Then I will have a new life, without porn, without M, and with a healthy, wonderful physical and emotional relationship with my wife.

If you just want to not masturbate for 90 days, then fine.  Masturbate on day 91, but what exactly have you accomplished?

 

[Alex48]

Hi 57yrold, I appreciate the answer. But you're asking me the same thing I'm asking myself. That's why my anger at the first posting.
My goal is to completely remove PIED, clearly no more P, and be able to have healthy sexual relationships without DE again. Now, in my case, I'm single. Here we talk about an initial reboot period of 90 days. I have done.
Of course, I'm not interested in going back to P. But if I'm single, how can I know if ED has disappeared?
I have read that moderate M can be fine, but they are only opinions that I read in a posting. I'm lost in this. Knowing someone takes time, and meanwhile what ?, I feel that with the recovery comes desire. I have achieved clear signs of recovery, for example wood in the morning every day.
I read many articles, many. Everyone talks about not going back to P, not even M compulsive. Perfect !. But I do not see any clarify how to handle after this hard reboot period.
I understand that each case is particular, but I do not see general lines at least, that talk about this. And what I have clear is that I do not want to ruin what has been achieved so far.
Hugs

 

[misc person 86]

90 days is nothing, sorry. It's an epic start and it gets easier afterwards. But for full recovery from chronic PIED you could be looking at years.

Regarding M... Gabe who owns this site I believe introduced M at some point and still recovered.

I avoid it, just because I'm single at the minute and the benefits from periods of prolonged hard made are proving really beneficial to me. I'm approaching 2 year no PMO and have done hard mode for last four month. My libido for the last couple of months has been raging. Spontaneous erections through the night, morning wood, increased confidence and desire to interact with women. I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel. I had my first full on wet dream ever (I'm 31) last night which pissed me off a bit, but it shows that my libido is definitely being restored and my body is doing what it's supposed to be doing.

Good luck all, impatience will screw you over. It did me. Realisation that this is not a short fix, but it is a gradual slow recovery and a life style permanent choice should take the pressure off.

 

[Alex48]

Thanks andyjee86 for your answer. Although I do not feel pressure, I just need to start recovering my sexuality. I do not know how seriously my ED was installed, I just had 3 encounters in which it happened before this reboot, but it was clear to me that it happened because of the abuse of PMO.
Anyway, the idea of staying celibate for years is not in my mind, and I think that if we talk about an average period of 90 hard recovery days it must be because it has some scientific basis. Otherwise, it is only speculations.
It is very clear to me that I would never return to P, but the rest should be a progressive approach towards a healthy sexuality.
I have experienced all the changes that you say, but I begin to feel that I must redirect my sexuality, trying to know someone and if it does not happen yet to see if it is possible M moderate.
I still maintain that there is no clear information about this topic in the presentation of the contents.
Hugs.

 

[marco_60]

I am also single, since 10 years. And after having seen the videos I also asked myself what waits me at the end of the tunnel. Unfortunately I am at the very beginning Alex, only day 14, thus I can not answer your question. I am much older than you (57 yo), thus I have even more doubts and fears. You want to know if  when you will finally meet a woman after the reboot you will be completely free of ED, right? But nobody can answer, I think, because besides  PIED there could be many other reasons affecting performance. For me at least I know that sexual desire also depends on my self-esteem: if I am not sufficiently confident in myself I can not give and receive empathy and intimacy, two important (for me) ingredients of a relationship. Maybe you should take it easier, and just go and meet new women only for the pleasure of knowing some attractive and nice people, and not thinking about ED.

 

[scorpion1386]

90 days is nothing, sorry. It's an epic start and it gets easier afterwards. But for full recovery from chronic PIED you could be looking at years.

Regarding M... Gabe who owns this site I believe introduced M at some point and still recovered.

I avoid it, just because I'm single at the minute and the benefits from periods of prolonged hard made are proving really beneficial to me. I'm approaching 2 year no PMO and have done hard mode for last four month. My libido for the last couple of months has been raging. Spontaneous erections through the night, morning wood, increased confidence and desire to interact with women. I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel. I had my first full on wet dream ever (I'm 31) last night which pissed me off a bit, but it shows that my libido is definitely being restored and my body is doing what it's supposed to be doing.

Good luck all, impatience will screw you over. It did me. Realisation that this is not a short fix, but it is a gradual slow recovery and a life style permanent choice should take the pressure off.

wait, why be pissed off at a wet dream if it indicates you're recovering?

 

[misc person 86]

90 days is nothing, sorry. It's an epic start and it gets easier afterwards. But for full recovery from chronic PIED you could be looking at years.

Regarding M... Gabe who owns this site I believe introduced M at some point and still recovered.

I avoid it, just because I'm single at the minute and the benefits from periods of prolonged hard made are proving really beneficial to me. I'm approaching 2 year no PMO and have done hard mode for last four month. My libido for the last couple of months has been raging. Spontaneous erections through the night, morning wood, increased confidence and desire to interact with women. I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel. I had my first full on wet dream ever (I'm 31) last night which pissed me off a bit, but it shows that my libido is definitely being restored and my body is doing what it's supposed to be doing.

Good luck all, impatience will screw you over. It did me. Realisation that this is not a short fix, but it is a gradual slow recovery and a life style permanent choice should take the pressure off.

wait, why be pissed off at a wet dream if it indicates you're recovering?

Because I'd literally just changed the sheets. [some text removed] Sorry to be graphic.

[Mod note: so don't be graphic...]

 

[Alex48]

lol Andyjee86 you made me laugh !!!! Y love wet dreams , they re so real lol !!!
Marco60 you re not much older than me, you have a great age !!!! Y think there is not much difference.
Very interesting this feedback, and y have to say that i ll try to meet someone and see what happens. I feel a little afraid because i experienced an ED in 3 encounters any months ago. But may be it's just about crossing it and see. On the way an M i don t think it could be harmful, doesn t it?. Have to check that.
By the way, i m gay mates! But it doesn t make a difference about this.
Y m starting to walk on the walls lol!
Hugs