Please HELP i masturbate during my sleep

This is absolute BS. My subconscious is so used to fapping that I'll start jacking off in the middle of the night and I only realize it right before or during O. Even if I realize what I'm doing and stop before O, the M is so bad that it's basically a relapse anyway.
Some people say this doesn't count as a relapse, but it has all the negative effects of relapse, so it's GOT TO STOP. Seriously, I don't even fap consciously anymore. I would be 30-40 days clean if not for sleep fapping.
I made a thread about this problem a month or 2 ago, and some users were questioning whether the MO was really "subconcious" or "unintentional." IT IS. I spent the last couple dozen minutes searching "sleep fapping" and reading threads on it. It's a real thing, guys.
I'm awake right now at 1:30 AM because I woke up and started fapping unintentionally like a drugged-up f*** about an hour ago. I had removed my cup/underwear/bedsheets and started M with no conscious awareness of it. By the time I started to realize what I was doing- which is NOTHING compared to being awake in daytime and actually being able to think- I was too far gone, grabbed my phone and PMO' d without even the slightest feeling of guilt or resistance. The thing is, I went to sleep tonight actually thinking that "I'm so glad to be doing NoFap" and literally praying that this sleep-fapping wouldn't happen ever again- and believing that it wouldn't. AND IT HAPPENED TONIGHT. WTF!!!
Sorry if this is excessively ranty and unproductive. I'm just so incredibly frustrated right now I can't even describe it. I've never felt so hopeless or like giving up so much. After waking up "more" and realizing what I did, I started pounding the ground, hitting myself in the 'nads, and yelling "NO!!!!" over and over. I feel absolutely mind-controlled by my PMO-addicted subconscious and am desperate for anything that can make this stop.
 

malando

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Get rid of the phone. Either lock it away in another room, or get an simple phone that doesn't have internet. You've got to do something drastic to beat this thing. I think porn addicts need to be extremely careful with the way they use electronic devices. Don't treat internet like a god-given right - treat it like a tool that can do harm or good. If it's doing you harm, get rid of it, or limit your exposure to it so its no longer a threat to you.
 

mousemat1

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Hey FrenchWinner.

I had a similar problem about a year ago although I wasn't masturbating in my sleep. I would wake up in the middle of the night with an erection and just start masturbating, sometimes I would quickly look at porn just because it was like a Pavlovian reflex. My solution to the problem was drastic. It worked but there were some knock-on effects which I had to struggle with. In order to prevent unconscious masturbation I bought a chastity device. I'd lock myself up in it at night and put the key in my car so that if I wanted to remove it during the night I had to get dressed, go downstairs, go to my car and get the key. In reality, that was too much hassle so I would just try to get back to sleep. It worked. After about a month and a half (maybe two) I stopped using the chastity device and everything was OK. I would wake up in the night with an erection but I could just ignore it and go back to sleep.

The problem with this was that the feeling of the chastity device was sometimes arousing which meant that my mind was full of thoughts of sex. Obviously, I couldn't masturbate, but it was something difficult at first. The second issue was that, while wearing the chastity device wasn't uncomfortable (sometimes I didn't even know I was wearing it), it was really painful when I got an erection during the night or morning wood. I mean really painful. Hygiene wasn't an issue because I just removed it before showering and getting dressed in the morning.

Like I said, it was drastic but it helped me. The other problem is that using a computer or smartphone just triggered a pavlovian response. Sometimes, I would boot up my computer to check some emails and find that I'd typed in a search for porn. I agree with malando, the internet is not a god-given right. I switched to a normal handset with no internet and had to be extra vigilant when I used a computer. I managed to go 275 days without PMO before I relapsed. I'm back on the reboot program. Basically, this is going to be a lifelong struggle which sometimes gets easier but at others is just as strong as it ever was.

Good luck and I hope you don't have to go to the same lengths as I had to in order to get a good run going.
 

beinghumanagain

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I am on no PMO hardmode challenge since last 21 days. I wouldn't say it's a challenge, because it has given me to live a new way of life. My veins now have more blood running through it and I am able to have my morning erections back. In order to get fully cured I believe we have to shun all of PMO. I have  been practicing yoga since many days along with meditation. It has helped me a lot to shun all kind of fantasies, so that I don't resort to PMO again.  I hope meditation for 15 mins two times while walking up and at night sleep will certainly help. It helps us to realise our purpose of life. And I think PMO can't be our purpose of life.
 
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