Miserable due to porn addiction

Jeks

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Damn that thought process is me in a nutshell for the last 4 or 5 months. It got much better though.

This constant fight of trying to push more and cutting back is really exhausting. I think one of the most important things for me was to recognize, that i have to find a schedule, that is sustainable for me right now. When i felt like i got a new routine down, i would try to implement a new one. If it would be too hard, i would try to still do it, but a little less.

For example:
i would try to define what is the most important thing for me right now. It is for example studying for the subject x. Okay. How much would i like to study for that? Maybe two hours. Okay. I try it out a few days. Its easy. Whats next? Sports. 5 times a week. Okay no, its not sustainable, maybe 3 times. Its good, but i could maybe put one more time of running in there. Okay that feels good. Next up: a new topic of studying. after some time: okay i have to figure out when to do chores. After that: okay i have to find a better compromise for subject x from the beginning. Time showed, that i am able to do more now for that. And so on...

Thats how i went about it. Maybe that all sounds obvious to you, but i wrote it down like this to make clear, that at least for me it was a very long-going process to figure out a compromise, each and every time to feel good, to keep the outer world functional, but at the same time not to overrun myself. And thats something i feel like i had to learn just from scratch without pmo. But now it also became like a skill and i got a pretty good intuition on what i can demand from myself and whats just to much out of experience. And its just never a completed process i feel like. I had to learn to become adaptable and how to react on new situations (as quarantine f.e.)

A few weeks ago university started again and i had to change my whole schedule and its still very much in progress, like i described. But it became much easier and i have a pretty solid framework right now, where i just try to add new things or try to change things here and there. The good news is also: the longer you stay in a certain routine, the more you get used to it, the more energy you will start to get for new stuff. It sometimes honestly feels like working out, i notice how i become more resistent and get more energy with time.

What really helped me there, was to make a priority list of life areas.
It includes things like financial independence, sports/health, friends, studying and stuff like that. It helped me to not only know where to start, but also to make clear to myself which things should take up the most time of my day.

I hope this can be a little bit of a help. When you feel like you have to change things up, change it up. You will come to a baseline where you can start from and continue to add new stuff.

Edit: its also often very much about finding creative solutions: f.e. i have to practice three instruments for becoming a music teacher, but i cant fit three instruments in my schedule every single day. My energy level doesnt allow it.. So i switch it up every day: day one: instrument a and b, day two: b and c, day three: c and a and so on... When there is a day, where i just dont have enough time for two instruments, i just continue the rotation, but just with one instrument per day.
It doent have to be a daily habit for me necessarily or totally strict, but some form of routine, so it becomes binding, but sustainable.
So, i hope that helps.:)

 

Jeks

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Yes anon, i can very much comprehend what you feel like. It seems the way our withdrawals show themselves are very similar. This complete lack of focus, lack of motivation, brainfoggy, VERY fatigue, always feeling sleepy kind of withdrawals.
Still i would recommend to try to get active. Ask yourself how long you realisticely may be able to work on your stuff. Try to commit to at least work this amonut of time, even if its just half an hour or even less. But keep used to stand up und doing something. Keep used to it. Maybe you can even try to work two times half an hour with an hour break in between or something, be creative with it. Find the sweet spot, whats doable, that you dont feel useless and completely annoyed with yourself, but still not overwhelmed. Both can lead to cravings or thoughts of relapse. When you stay used to keeping active, you will be able to increase it with time.
Also i recommend jogging, its really uplifting.
And most important thing of all: do the things, that make you not relapse, the first weeks can get tough. Get over them, it will become easier again. Even if it means to be not productive at all. I would lie, if i would tell you, that this was not the case with me.
Thats all i can think of. I hope this can be a help.
 

Jeks

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I think a very good exercise is to think of all the reasons why you want to quit and to write them down. Top of the list might be PIED. If you get crystal clear about why you wanna quit and you see what you are missing out on and what it will lead to, you will find that its not a question of if, but when you will stop porn. When you are at this point, thoughts like "what if i relapse?" don't even matter. Also i think you would get back on the wagon, exactly because you already put so much effort into it.

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-porn-use-faqs/why-am-i-addicted-while-my-friends-are-not/

Hold on to your reasons, they will carry you trough the tough times.


 

zander13

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Thank you for your kind words my friend. Glad to hear that you had a nice day. I'm rooting for you, and glad that you are taking this seriously.
 

Jeks

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Nice going anon.
Being able to enjoy the day and to be somewhat satisfied with yourself is already worth a lot. Hold on to your reasons and keep reminding yourself how awesome life will be.

I am excited to hear more of your progress.
 

Jeks

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hey anon, sorry to hear that. I can fully understand what you going through really. The relationship between my parents also played a big role, why i might have needed porn as a teenage boy, without me even noticing, to get that emotional stability (better: emotional numbness) my parents couldnt provide me with. However they are your parents, not more and not less. So whatever you do, dont get overwhelmed by the emotional pain and dont relapse. They should not be able to define how your life will go on and what you make out of your life. Relapsing would maybe ease the pain for a little bit, but after the high you would just crash down even more. Just focus on your life and what you wanna do with it. Dont let them take your life away from you. They wont determine our life.
 

Jeks

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hey anon man, dont feel sorry. This is how this addiction works. Learn from it. Relationship problems and emotional pain like anger and sadness are triggers and we have got to learn and get used to deal with them differently. This takes time and practice. Consult yourself and introspect what exactly happened and what made you relapse, think about how you could have act differently, re-ensure yourself why you want quit and then get back on track.
Prepare psychologically for the chaser effect. Dont give up on yourself. You know why it is necessary to quit and you can do it. The first three months will be shaky and you got to be on the look out for exactly these kind of situations, so you can consciously decide to act differently, than you have probably did your whole life. This is a learning process and you are now in the middle of it. Sure thing not everything will go as planned.
Do things that help you to deal with the disappointment and to get yourself collected. Maybe that means studying, maybe that means to take a day off.




 

Jeks

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Seems like a good plan to me.
Relapses after twenty something days maybe have some "good" traits to them. At least it feels like that to me in retrospect.
Firstly you do know now, that you can make it this far, so there are really no reasons why you should not be able to make it this long again. Secondly, loosing a streak like that hurts strong enough, that you start to take this process more serious and that you dont underestimate this addiction, but it doesnt hurt so much, that you get on the edge on giving up and feeling completely hopeless.
Thirdly dont fall in the trap of thinking that all progress is lost, now that you have relapsed, your brain already started to change. And if nothing else, you have found strategies, behavior patterns, habits and routines, which enabled you to deal with this addiction for this amount of time. Yes, it sucks, but maybe it was a necessary step to get out of it in the long run. Watch out for the chaser effect. Urges might hit you hard. They will pass again.

Good luck dude
 

quitforeverthenwin2

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Keep up the good work! Great job getting back on the horse, 6 days is a really nice start and already positive changes are happening in your brain. I also want to point out, restarting the day count stinks but you did not completely start over. PMOing like 2-3x in a month is much much better then doing it multiple times a week or daily. Your brain is still adjusting and healing, getting in better condition then it was before.
 

faenoe

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Hey anon, glad to hear that your workouts have been making you sore :p I also feel like I gain a lot from reading these journals. They're like the realest thing in the world. They capture just about every part of recovery and have been an amazing source of strength. I also get a lot from posting on other peoples' threads and sharing my experience with them. i think there's a lot of power in that--more than we realize.

Keep up the good work
 

Jeks

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Hey anon, its great to read your day to day progress. And about this whole sleepiness thing: seems like a good idea to me, just continue to try new stuff. You will find a solution eventually.
 

Jeks

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Dude, you were able to say no and did not relapse. Thats a big accomplishment. Tough days will come and these are exactly the days, when it counts. Each difficult day, will bring you closer to where you want to be. When you feel like it was a close call, then already start to think about, what you will have to do, in order to get over the hump the next time. Thats exactly the process. You have got to practice to overcome the urge, because the urge will come. Thats how your brain will start to change. Also think about what might have triggered you.
And always keep in mind your reasons.
 

Jeks

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Recognize that all of this are withdrawals. Your body and mind try to make you feel bad and uncomfortable and to trick you into using porn. Its craving for this dopamine rushes. About how to handle these everyone has to find ones own way. I would try to not pressure myself to much, but maybe its the exact opposite for you, or maybe it depends on your day to day mood.
I can understand that you feel like it was a little bit out of your control, but the first times can feel like that.
Stick to you strategies. Also when i would feel like i cant really consciously and rationally think and decide anymore i just sticked to short reminding sentences.
Dont touch. Dont fantasize. These are cravings and not my real libido. What are my reasons.
Grab a pillow and dont let go of it.
I know, i repeat myself, but thats exactly what this fight was about for me. Its repetition. Its about reminding yourself each and every time to the same principals, so that your body and mind learn how to act differently.
This cravibgs and urges will end someday. Dont let your brain trick you.
 

zander13

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Hey man, a word of advice.

I?ve been in the cycle that you now find yourself in. The relapses, the shame, the renewed motivation to start your life from scratch. Dude, I?ve ?restarted? my life about a thousand times. To do lists, bucket lists, promises, prayer, goals.

The thing you have to realize is that in order to beat this thing, you gotta understand that the reasons you?re feeling energized today are neurochemical in nature. You fed yourself the chemicals, so now your brain is happy. But, as you know, your brain is going to start getting thirsty again. And all this energy you?re feeling is going to feel as if it happened to someone else.

You need to find that inner person inside of you that can remain unchanged by these ebbs and flows of your brain, which is an organ, just like our hearts, bladders, etc. You cannot attach yourself to it. You need to dip your toes into some eastern mindsets. This is a war you?re fighting, and you need to fully grasp just how tumultuous it is. You?re fighting for your life. And, as in any war, there?s going to be massive amounts of pain and devastation. So you need to absorb that fact, and decide that you?re going to remove yourself from the day to day battles so that you won?t lose yourself in the violence.

Attach the proper amount of significance to this fight as it deserves. It?s very, very serious.

I feel like a douche giving this advice, because I myself don?t enjoy advice, but I resonated too much with the wavelike nature of your recovery. I?ve been there man. I really have.

And it?s not like I?m some fucking guru. I?m still very much vulnerable to relapse. I?m in the same boat as you. The same fucking hellhole.
 

faenoe

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Hey bro, I also resonate with what zander said. The past couple weeks have seriously been the fight of my life. It's like when you want nothing more than a glass of water after a hike through the desert. But you don't let yourself do it. That is the decision you make when you said, "I am going to quit porn." You say that you have made up your mind to make the hardest decision in the most impossible situation. But you can. I'm here fighting this plague with you. I want nothing more than to get rid of the power it has over me. Make up your mind to quit every moment--even in the moment where you want nothing more than to look at porn.
 
J

J01

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How has it been going lately?  Was wondering if your study and testing plans got messed up by all that is going on.  Hang in there! 
 

Relentless Observer

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Anon,
I have enjoyed reading your journal and I applaud you for your honesty.  However, I also empathize with you as this is a trial... a horrible trial at times!
You posted numerous 10-15 day streaks.  That is still so much better than watching porn every day and over time it adds up.  It took me so many attempts before I successfully committed to a porn-free life.  In honesty, it took me much longer then to get rid of porn-like fantasy... so in a sense it has been maybe a year of being virtually porn-free.  All this is to say that it is a huge commitment to bettering ourselves and a worhwhile journey.  It is tough, but YOU CAN DO IT.
Currently, I have had lots of mini streaks without masturbation...and at this point I think it really is tied to the porn habits I had when younger that make it more compulsory than ... normal/what it should be... so I am working on freeing myself from masturbation as well.

I don't know if this makes as much sense as I wanted it to, but the point is that we have harmed ourselves unknowingly for so long and it is difficult to fight this addiction, but so necessary!
I believe in you.  I believe in us.
 
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