peter1717 said:
Evenheroesfall49 said:
What are the actual relapse rates and recovery stats for porn addiction? I googled it but couldn't find any solid info. I know it has a very low recovery rate but any numbers?
I know everyone is different but I like stats, im a numbers person so I'm just curious.
Thanks.
Oh boy. The recovery rate is so low I'm sure.
Probably 1%
Its really not good.
But some addicts will relapse after 50 days, 150 days, 2 years and so on. Does that mean they are failures?
Not at all. I would say they trying hard to be a better person.
Most porn addicts dont give a rats ass about recovery.
What do you mean by that last statement?
Virtually everyone I've come across on this forum, /r/nofap, nofap.com and otherwise who has identified that they struggle with PMO genuinely seems to want to improve and use PMO less. I don't have any clue what you're talking about porn addicts not "giving a rat's ass" about recovery. I think a much more realistic and fair statement would be "most porn addicts don't know how truly damaging and addictive porn actually is".
Like others have said, it depends upon how recovery is defined. I also don't know where these figures are coming from, seems like they're being pulled out of thin air as far as I can tell. For example, let's take the guy who used PMO regularly from ages 15 to 30. He suddenly becomes aware of the damaging effects of porn (maybe he found and read Your Brain on Porn) and wants to quit. So after some ups and downs he accomplishes 90 days without PMO. He notices good effects and wants to continue, but over the course of the next year he uses PMO on average once per month. He's not really happy about this but it doesn't seem to negatively effect his ability to achieve and maintain his erection nor does it seem to have any substantial effects on himself or his relationships. Should this be considered as a "failure"?
I would argue, most certainly not. Because in all likelihood if this person is able to reduce usage from multiple times per week to once per month, that bodes quite well for the future and they may be able to reduce even more over time. I don't know what exactly separates the guys who can quit from the guys who struggle to go a day or two without it, but it seems like there are a couple different guys. Personally, I've used PMO fairly regularly since sometime in my teens (I'm early thirties now). Literally 3 weeks ago I stumbled across a "nofap" video on youtube and was subsequently lead to Your Brain on Porn, which I've now read twice. And now that I've learned how it's possible for porn to fuck your brain in so many ways, I have found it relatively "easy" to abstain for the past 25 days. I feel like this is something I can maintain for the foreseeable future, but time will tell.