No Pressure / No Rush

After many years of considering it, and occasionally half-heartedly trying it, I'm going to reboot today.

I last masturbated about twenty-five minutes ago, and instead of sleeping (as I justified the purpose of my masturbation), my shame is preventing me from shutting off right now. I'm feeling the need for sugary food, I'm feeling the need for a cigarette, I'm feeling the need for something to replace the negative feelings I have towards myself right now.

The thing is, I have ALWAYS had some relationship with pornography. When I was three years old, I discovered my first porn mag. It was under my brother's pillow, and I was fascinated by the pictures and wondered why I didn't see them anywhere else.

When I was about six, I used to invite my friends round to laugh at the videos of penises and vaginas my brother had painstakingly hidden under his bottom draw. No hiding place was difficult to find when you're a mischievous little brother. Around that time, I noticed my cousin didn't laugh with my other friends. He'd stare at the television, holding his hands in between his legs.

By the time I was eight, I knew why he didn't laugh. I also stopped inviting my friends round to laugh at my eighteen year old brother's stash. It was just for me (and him, of course). I began the habit when I was eight, and it has been with me since.

When I was a teenager, I think I had a somewhat 'normal' relationship with pornography: if I could find it, I would secretly watch it. But, it was usually incredibly difficult to come by and one lend of a friend's DVD would fill my imagination for almost a year. I was masturbating every day.

I lost my virginity when I was sixteen. Despite my porn usage, I wasn't desperate to have sex. In fact, I declined my first few offers as I was waiting for someone I actually really liked. Unfortunately, the relationship with the woman in question (I was sixteen, she was twenty) went on to become one of the biggest factors in my anxiety around intimacy. In a nutshell, I was in a nine month relationship with her, and began fearing her as she would often compare me to her exes, belittle me, and emotionally manipulated me. After I ended it out of true fear, I was single for the next three years.

Whenever I felt sad, or lonely, or horny, or fed up, or bored, porn was there.

After finally moving on (for the time being) from my first girlfriend, I had a few small relationships. The sex was okay, but going home to masturbate to porn was more satisfying. Those relationships didn't last long.

I went to focus on myself and my education, and while I was in my first year of University, I watched porn and had collected almost 100gb of it. I would spend hours searching for the right scene, but I never did find it. The porn I was watching wasn't the hardest, but it involved degradation and unrealistic portrayals of sex.

I entered a long distance relationship in my second year, and while I was away from my girlfriend, porn was my lover. Towards the end of our two years together, porn was waiting for me in the bathroom after an unsatisfying session with my boring beau.

In 2016, I became single for almost four and a half years...

Last February, I met with my first girlfriend, and the nostalgia got to me. We began sleeping with each other, but it was aggressive and usually patched up negativity which always lingered in the room we shared. I had a two week fling with her, and in those two weeks I suffered more emotional abuse than before. By March 2019, I had no confidence in my relationships with women, so I stepped away and watched porn and masturbated away my troubles.

Before I continue, I want to share something I have never told anybody else. Rather than my porn choices becoming more extreme, my methods of masturbation did. I went from dry hands to lube. From Durex play to the silicone stuff I used to see in the gonzo movies I wanked to. From there, I went on to masturbate using condoms and lube. Then I began using baby oil as well, and the splitting of the condom as I rapidly rubbed became a turn on. Then I began using rubber gloves, lube, and condoms. Finally, my standard practise for the past few years has been a condom, a water based lube, coconut oil, spit, and when the condom breaks, I'll double up the elastic base around my shaft and finish like that. If this continues, I dread to think what's next.

What has made me consider embracing change now? Maria...

Maria and I have been friends for the past year. Around the time we met, I had a brief fling with someone else and panicked as soon as we were about to have sex. Bad memories, guilt and shame flooded my brain and hijacked my flight or fight response and ended the fling in an instant. After that, I avoided intimacy.

At first, Maria and I only talked about our academic interests. Over a few months, she entered a relationship with someone and we were all friends. I fell out with her boyfriend sometime ago, but Maria and I remained friends.

At the end of 2019, Maria was diagnosed with anxiety and left her job as a result. We spoke a lot during that period.

Two months later, I suffered anxiety and stress and began contemplating quitting my job. Maria was who I turned to.

We developed a close bond, but there was no attraction initially. However, over lockdown, we called each other a lot. We never spoke of her relationship. Instead, we spoke of dreams, desires, family issues, academic pursuits, career goals...

After lockdown, we began going on walks and she would call me when she was upset. I began to develop an attraction to her.

She broke up with her boyfriend, and I decided that I was going to stop running away from my issues and face them. I was able to admit that I was in need of therapy regarding my intimacy issues, and while on a recent trip, I was able to tell Maria the way I felt about her. She felt the same way about me.

Prior to confessing my feelings, I had told Maria all about my ex, and how even after I had blocked her from all of my accounts, she still somehow managed to contact at frequent intervals.

Maria and I agreed to go slow: I was working on my insecurities and she had only recently broken up with her ex.

We tried to have sex, but I would stop, feel unable to breathe, and cry. Maria understood and reassured me there was no pressure and certainly no rush. Her compassion made me relax, and the next time we attempted to have sex, we were able. I wasn't fully erect, but I had managed to keep my emotions from hijacking my system.

We have been open and honest about our worries and fears. We also confessed to wanting to be in a relationship with each other (living independent lives, but sharing moments together), and I am a boyfriend for the first time in over four years. This time, however, it feels different. The amount of honesty we are trying to maintain in the relationship makes me feel that this is the best foundation I have ever had with somebody. If we want something, we say. If we are unhappy with the way someone said or did something, we talk about it. For the first time in my life, I feel like I am part of a team. I feel truly lucky to be in a relationship like this, and even though it has been less than a week since it began, I have a positive feeling that this could be something incredibly special.

I don't want to give up pornography for Maria. Instead, I want to give it up for me, so I can put my energy and effort into my recovery from my ex as well as my relationship with Maria. I want to be a team player.

I want love, and compassion, and honesty, and support, and good sex, and to share my life with someone who I fully trust. I want to grow with her. I don't want to have this secret part of my life to be there in the background any longer.

I masturbated tonight as it was my first time alone in six days. We have been away on a trip together - it was the most special trip of my life - and I wondered what masturbation would feel like. From the very beginning, I felt a lot of shame. I persisted, managing to forget my shame for lust. But as soon as I climaxed, I knew it wasn't as good as being with Maria.

I don't want to forget that.

Inspired by Mark Manson (for those that couldn't tell, I have been incredibly inspired by his recommendation of becoming vulnerable to grow), I am going to try my first proper porn diet. I intend to journal my 60 days on here. Perhaps I won't update every day, but perhaps I will. I don't know. I do know that I want to be regular to maintain this accountability and to fully be able to discuss my emotions and thoughts as the days go by.

MY PORN DIET IS AS FOLLOWS: -

- Watch / Look at ZERO pornographic material
- Avoid multiple lubricants and wrapping the elastic from condoms around my penis
- Abstain from masturbating if I am able to have sex with my girlfriend
- Limit masturbation to twice a week from week three


I don't fully believe it is necessary to give up masturbation. But, I will write more on that in future posts.

This was long. I avoided sugar, I avoided cigarettes, and now, I really should get some sleep.

Speak Soon!

BGP xx

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Did I use porn today?

Yes. I spent about an hour going through videos, failing to find the 'perfect' one. I used coconut oil, rubber glove, condom.

What were my triggers?

Going to bed alone. Being tired. Being without my girlfriend for the first time in six days. Feeling overwhelmed throughout the day due to tiredness.

How did I soothe my anxiety or stress?

I hung out with friends. I messaged my girlfriend a nice message before bed. I cried and hugged my best friend.

What am I grateful for today?

Maria. The past week we spent together was compassionate, fun, and inspiring!
A job interview. I don't know if I will get it, but if I do, it will be a step towards a new career. If I don't, it will prepare me for the next opportunity.
My friends. I don't like my hometown much, but I love my closest friends. They make me laugh and make me feel valid.

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Fappy

Respected Member
Hello!
Welcome to the forum!
Wow, your stroy was certainly comprehensive. Its good that you can pinpoint where it went wrong and jsut how prevalent porn was in your life.
You seem t have a good approach to your reboot, too. Its good to set those rules like you have, and also to write things down. Taking note of triggers is of utmost importance.
As for the masturbation, if you arent going hard mode then you can have a good ole toss every now and again. It can even help in some cases, as long as its it to NO ARTIFICIAL STIMULATION WHATSOEVER. Not even fantasising about porn you have watched before. It can help to get you out of a flatline and kick start your libido - it did for me anyway. But as you said, save that for your girlfriend. Rewiring your mind (and penis) to someone you have intimiate and honest feelings toward is a massive help in rebooting. Even if it isnt sex with ejaculation, just sticking it up her without "finishing" that is. Or she could evne help you by using her hands or whatever, you could also do things to her too (within reason...)
Anyway, you seem to have a handle on things as far as your approach goes which is great!
Talk to you again soon!
 

mousemat1

Well-Known Member
Hi BGP

Welcome to the nation. Your story seems different from most that are retold in this forum. Can I ask a couple of questions?

Do you have erectile dysfunction, porn induced or otherwise? It's not clear from your post. You wrote about having difficulty at one point with Maria, but it seems like an isolated case.

Do you think your anxiety during sex is caused by your porn use, or is it because of the previous abusive relationship you were in? It's not clear how you think porn has created this anxiety.

When you are masturbating is it always to porn or porn fantasy?

I wish you luck on your path to giving up porn. It really has ruined so many lives. If you're not suffering from PIED (porn induced erectile dysfunction) then you are indeed very fortunate. That said, just because you're not suffering from PIED now doesn't mean you might not develop it in the future, and if your having anxiety about sex with Maria now, if PIED kicks in, you will be entering a whole new world of stress. I have a partner and I haven't been able to to get and erection to have sex with her for two years. So, my advice is stop watching porn. If you are an addict, there can be no 'having a peek' in the future. This is my 6th reboot, if I remember correctly, and a couple of years ago I went 275 days without porn the 'fell off the wagon' again. If you are genuine porn addict, one 'sip' of porn can lead you straight back into uncontrollable porn binges.

Regarding masturbation, in my experience it's helpful to stop masturbating for a period. I'm on day 15 of my latest reboot and I haven't watched porn or masturbated during that time. In the past, I discovered that not masturbating really increased the sensitivity of my penis, to the point where I was cumming too quickly, but that sorted itself out quite quickly. Sex with my 're-sensitised' penis was amazing. If you do masturbate it mustn't be to porn or re-imagining porn scenes you've watched. The other positive thing about not masturbating is that it helps to strengthen your resistance to porn, in my opinion. Telling yourself 'no' to masturbation helps with telling yourself 'no' to porn. At some point you/I will reintroduce masturbation, but let me warn you now, because masturbation has be inexorably linked to porn, there is a very high risk or relapsing. Take this advice from someone who knows about the risk of reintroducing masturbation too soon. However, it seems like a compulsive habit because I see that you immediately masturbated once Maria was away. This might need addressing.

Anyway, good luck. Fight the urges to watch porn, and give yourself a realistic target regarding masturbation, perhaps 2 weeks or a month. There is only one target regarding porn, you have to quit for life!

 
Your mention of abstaining from masturbation is really interesting. The only time I have gone longer than ten days (since the age of 8), was when I was travelling with a friend. I made it 17 days, but it wasn't a conscious decision - and yet, I was still counting the days. If I am honest, I fear that if I tell myself to not masturbate, I feel fear that at the moment, it is unachievable.

After reading Models by Mark Manson, I abstained from porn relatively easily (but relapsed after 40 days, just to 'have a peek'), but I was able to embrace that restriction because I knew I could masturbate and while it may not have been exciting, the desire to watch porn ended on ejaculation. I agree that a total withdrawal of porn is necessary. Even ethically I don't agree with it, but I stuff these thoughts down, and that definitely adds to the shame.

Your questions: -

Do you have erectile dysfunction, porn induced or otherwise?

I do suffer from ED at times, and I think it is a combination of the previous abusive relationship and my addiction to porn. It usually manifests itself in delayed ejaculation. As an example, when Maria and I first slept together, I had flashes of one particular pornographic image in my mind and that was what led to me being able to climax. I definitely don't feel good about that, because Maria is beautiful and real.

Do you think your anxiety during sex is caused by your porn use, or is it because of the previous abusive relationship you were in?

In all honesty, I don't know. My first sexual experience was with the abuser, and I was already an avid porn watcher by that time. Every first few sexual encounters I have had since then, I have had sexual anxiety. It could be one or the other, or very possibly, both. As I move on and wait for therapy for the abusive relationship, I think this is a good time to move on with everything that makes me fear intimacy and vulnerability, so this feels like the time to do it.

When you are masturbating is it always to porn or porn fantasy?

99% of the time, it is to porn. I go through stages where I will try to imagine myself having sex with people I have met, or seen in the street, or whatever, but it is not as exciting. I always go back to porn.

I have masturbated a few times where I have concentrated on my breathing, my body, and the feelings inside. This has been quite powerful, but it doesn't scratch that erotic itch, if you will. The second time I slept with Maria, I had a very similar experience. I ended up having a full body orgasm and I have NEVER felt that way before. It was wholesome, but it still wasn't 'sexy,' if you know what I mean?
 

mousemat1

Well-Known Member
Obviously, every rebooter is different. In my experience, masturbation early in my reboot just triggered me back to porn use. I know it's happened to other rebooters too. It might not be an issue for you.

Going 40 days on your first run is quite impressive.

We are our own lab rats in this experiment. You just have to go with what you think is best for you.
 
Day Two

I was going to avoid writing today, but when I discussed my intention to a friend, I said how writing when I would usually watch porn might be a good substitute (I love writing, if you couldn't tell from my extensive OP).

My day has been pretty good. I worked on a radio project and did a hell of a lot of walking. I've also had a couple of chats with Maria today about our plans for the weekend and this fills me with a lot of hope. I'm constantly worried that she'll tell me she's changed her mind about being in a relationship, so these little chats remind me that my insecurities are real and I feel I am on a path to addressing them. As we told each other on our trip: no pressure, no rush.

I find, during the day, maintaining productive and working towards goals is great. I even overcame a small fear of manning the radio studio on my own while I was on the air. I even got to play a song which already brings back strong memories from my trip with Maria (I'm a soppy romantic and I love it)!

All was well until I got home and discovered my dad had gone missing. I won't go into much detail, but my instincts told me he was considering suicide (due to some recent statements and his refusal to medicate for his depression / failure to do things with his days). About four years ago, he drunkenly stated that he was going to commit suicide by driving head on into an oncoming truck after my mum had caught him watching porn (he had had a stroke a year before and that had given him ED and restricted his libido) - another instance of porn killing love...

My dad was fine in the end. He went out for a long walk to clear his head, but declined any advice from me about him speaking to his doctor or even the Samaritans. It's hard to try and help someone who stonewalls so much.

When things calmed down, I thought about watching porn. Not a serious thought, but more of a habitual thought. I questioned why I had the desire and wondered whether it was to tackle the stress from the day. I'm not sure.

Maria called me on her way home from drinks with friends. We had a brief chat and I told her about my dad disappearing. She was compassionate and reminded me of what we have to look forward to over the coming weekend. It might sound a bit early, but I think I love her already. I'll sit with the feeling for a while. It is a bit soon to be saying that.

I'm going to refrain from masturbating tonight. I only did it twenty four hours ago and I'll be seeing Maria tomorrow - I think if we were to have sex, it would be far better than a quick wank before bed. I just can't wait to be with her again. I miss her positivity.

I don't want to live with my parents anymore. I'm 29 and waiting to hear back from a writing job in the city. Hopefully, I'll be living on my own soon. I love my parents, but I am not happy living here anymore - I haven't since I returned from University five years ago. Being at home was always convenient though as I kept travelling and living abroad. I've not travelled since February 2019, so it is high time I GTFO.

Thanks for following my progress. I am still feeling positive about overcoming pornography, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel a little sad about missing out. Hopefully these feelings will erode with time.

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Did I use porn today?

No :)

What were my triggers?

The end of the day, decompressing after a stressful evening.

How did I soothe my anxiety or stress?

I spoke to my girlfriend and another friend. I chose to write this journal entry.

What am I grateful for today?

My ability to to communicate. I look at my dad and feel sympathy for his inability to open up. I love the guy, but I'm glad I am not like him in that way.
My friend John. I told him about my desire to quit porn and feel doing so while trying to overcome the emotional scars from my previous abusive relationship is best - they feel tied somehow. He was empathetic, open and supportive.
The radio station. It is far from perfect, but the fact I get to sit in a studio playing music and talking shit for an hour is a pretty good way to spend a Friday afternoon.

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Just a quick entry from Maria's bed.

Yesterday was really nice. We went on a date, had a few glasses of wine and had a chilled evening. I love how relaxed I feel around her and I feel being honest about my previous relationship and insecurities has sped things up in terms of trust.

When we slept together, I just stayed with her and it was easy to get lost in the moment. I struggled to climax, but as soon as I told myself there was no pressure, I just enjoyed it. It ended up happening eventually.

I read a great quote from Hemingway yesterday. To paraphrase: the only way you can find out whether you can trust someone is to trust them.
 
Did I use porn today?

No :)

What were my triggers?

One time during sex, I was frustrated I couldn't finish. My mind went to pornographic memories to try and hurry me along. It was just a flash before I focused on my breathing and just allowed myself to not climax. Relaxing ended up making it happen.

How did I soothe my anxiety or stress?

I lounged with Maria, made out, had sex, talked.

What am I grateful for today?

Maria being so open. She introduced me to one of her close friends on Skype. Me and her friend had a great conversation and she sent Maria a message afterwards saying how happy she was for her.

The city. Finding stimulation in parks and good places to eat stop my mind from wandering.

Sleep. Despite not getting enough recently, I'm grateful for the comfort sleep brings.

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I spent most of yesterday with Maria. We went for yoga on the beach (I participated to get a story for the local newspaper), which was really good. My core is a bit tender today, but feels really good. I also feared exercising on the beach, but I was so into the exercise, I didn't pay any attention to anyone around me.

After that, I introduced Maria to one of my oldest friends. He's returning to London today, so it was good to spend some time with him. We went to the beach and got a bit cold, but it was an excellent way to spend the bank holiday.

Afterwards, Maria caught a chill, so I took her back to mine (the first woman I have brought back in over five years) and we warmed up in bed. She said she loved my affection and when we talked about what we liked about each other physically, she said she appreciated that I didn't say her tits first (I said nose, hips, eyes, tits). We ended up having sex, and it was a little quicker, but very passionate. I find it so easy to get lost in her.

There was a moment when porn flashed in my mind, but again, I slowed down, stopped forcing myself to try and reach the point of climax, and it worked well. Afterwards, she said that was her best time with me - but she did say 'it hurt... in a good way'. I kinda know what she means, but I don't like to hear I've hurt someone (whether good or not. My abusive ex said that a lot and it fucked with me. I reassured myself that Maria didn't know that and she meant it in a good way. I had to forgive myself instantly).

Maria and I napped, and we woke, we decided for her to stay. She began her period a few moments later, and as she hadn't planned on staying, she had forgot to bring sanitary products with her. She began crying as she felt stupid for making such a childish mistake. I told her not to worry, and I went to the shop for some products. I really wasn't phased, but she was really appreciative.

We cuddled, kissed, and went to sleep.

In the morning, we woke, ate breakfast, and she left for work. I was smiling the entire morning.

My morning was spent chasing stories for my local paper, and I was filled with hope and joy as I counted my blessings for trying to get a job which involves me hanging round interesting people doing interesting things. I'm finding real purpose in these reports and I hope it will become a career move soon.

When I got home at lunchtime, I helped out with some dreary admin work with my parents. I also gave my dad my old phone, and upon checking the pictures, came across one particular pornographic GIF. I freaked out with embarrassment before my dad could see and deleted the image. This one particular image is problematic for me. In the past, it has turned me on so much and this has been the image that has flashed up in my mind during sex with Maria at times. Any advice on how I can eradicate it from my memory?

As the boring tasks continued, my mind wandered and I began thinking of watching porn. I caught myself thinking about it and focused on something else.

I haven't masturbated since the last time I watched porn, but as I had sex last night, I feel I can wait a little longer. I quite like the idea of challenging myself to avoid PM now, but it does make me fearful if I'm honest. However, I also fear that if I were to M tonight, that one particular image would come back into my mind and I want to keep persisting. I have already noticed my being more present in the bedroom with Maria.

If I really want to, I may M tonight. But I think I can abstain.

Did I use porn today?

No. I accidentally saw an image, but my reaction to it was not arousal, nor has it been on my mind since...

What were my triggers?

Being tired and in a state of inertia. Also missing my girlfriend.

How did I soothe my anxiety or stress?

Played Fall Guys, wrote, hung out with my parents and watched a film.

What am I grateful for today?

People doing things in my town. It's far from the best, but being exposed to more people with community spirit fill me with hope.
Food. I visited a guy volunteering with the Salvation Army and he gave me pasta. Man, it was delicious!
Coffee and toast. It's humble, but it made me start my day right.


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I relapsed. Last night, I was tired and feeling deflated. I had a clear choice: try to settle before sleeping, M without P, or watch P and M. I chose the latter in an act of self-sabotage. I didn't spend a lot of time doing it, nor did I resort to gloves and condoms, etc. But I still did it. I'm kicking myself now.

As soon as it happened, I knew I wanted to give my reboot another try. I'm trying to see it as a positive rather than a negative; I'm trying to treat myself with patience and empathy rather than scolding and self-berating. I still feel like it could have been avoided though...

Did I use porn today?

Yes. I watched P for about fifteen minutes, MO'd, then switched everything off. Even during PM, I considered stopping, thinking that having the control to start then stop would be better than going the whole way. I just felt like shit though, and wanted that dopamine rush.

What were my triggers?

I really missed my girlfriend yesterday. We spoke on the phone and she had told me all about the exercises she had been doing during the week. It made me feel fat and lazy as I haven't exercised in a few months and I've always been a 'big' guy. I began feeling competitiveness against my girlfriend and felt that she would always have the advantage as she grew up in sport. The other day we had talked about it, and I felt inspired. I kept thinking if I got this new job and moved to the city, I would be able to dedicate a lot more time to my health and fitness.

Yesterday, I received a call from the job saying my application was unsuccessful. Annoyingly (yet, still positive), the boss said that I aced my interview, but I wasn't qualified enough for the position. He gave me advice on how to gain qualifications, but noted that it would have to be something I did on my own for now. I don't mind that as much, but it will cost me financially, and currently, I don't have a job.

Yesterday, I felt a little hopeless. I felt I had made progress in every aspect of my life since January, and this one negative led me back to feeling like everything was a waste of time, and so, I soothed myself with porn. Writing this down, I didn't realise my feeling good was so linked to watching pornography. It makes sense though.

How did I soothe my anxiety or stress?

I wrote a little bit, but then, I went straight to that old familiar site and whacked away.

What am I grateful for today?

I'm grateful for the advice the boss gave me (as well as more freelancing opportunities).
I'm grateful my girlfriend is very active and ambitious - I just need to work on not feeling like I'm competing with her because she never frames it that way.
I'm grateful for another chance to continue to push, continue to strive, and with enough effort and time, reach my goals.


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Today, I'm going to crack on with finding a temp job, while continuing to freelance and put the wheels in motion for me to become better qualified to become a journalist. I've literally gone from zero to smashing interviews with newspapers in the space of seven months. I can continue to do this!
 

Fappy

Respected Member
thats a shame about the relapse, but understand its all part of the process.
that was a trigger for me too, feeling tired or when something got me down, i just thought fuck it, ill watch porn because there isnt any way that i could feel WORSE. But ultimately the porn made me feel even worse, so it was an imortant lesson.
theres just nothing good or beneficial about porn whatsoever.
anyway, back at it!
 
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