Could use some support

[Jeks]

Hey guys,

i am right now 13 and a half month into my reboot.
I had some success like regaining morning wood (but rarely a 100 %) and a little better erection while masturbating whithout porn.
I went through a very tough period the last months, because of health issues with my bladder, which caused me to fall back a little into masturbating. Before that i was like 6 months masturbation free. Because of too much masturbation i guess (like once per week the last month) my progress seems to vanish a little again.

Because of the fact, that i am already pretty long into my reboot i am frustrated and sometimes doubt, if PIED might be the only problem i am facing.
I will have an appointment with an urologist in the next week, in which i will try to get a bit more clarity about that and also maybe a proper test for venous leak.

However i am pretty bummed, because i sometimes feel like i amthe only one, who has this issue for such a long time. So if you have any advice or support, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks

 

[mousemat1]

Your not alone. Full recovery can take a long time.

It's a good idea to check that you don't have any other health issues too.

 

[Guts]

I had some success like regaining morning wood (but rarely a 100 %) and a little better erection while masturbating without porn.

You've seen progress so you can see that abstaining from PMO has helped. I believe you said previously you couldn't masturbate with or without porn before this reboot.

Because of too much masturbation i guess (like once per week the last month) my progress seems to vanish a little again.

So you can deduce that intentional stimulation has set you back.

Because of the fact, that i am already pretty long into my reboot i am frustrated and sometimes doubt, if PIED might be the only problem i am facing.
I will have an appointment with an urologist in the next week, in which i will try to get a bit more clarity about that and also maybe a proper test for venous leak.

What other problem would you have???? You had surgery for venous leakage and it didn't help you. You just wrote that your reboot helped you.

However i am pretty bummed, because i sometimes feel like i amthe only one, who has this issue for such a long time. So if you have any advice or support, it would be much appreciated.

Both of these guys took around 3 years to recover https://yourbrainrebalanced.com/forum/index.php?threads/finally-over.24924/

http://legacy.rebootnation.org/index.php?topic=10800.msg111262#msg111262

I still highly recommend you go longer with hard mode abstinence. You should go long enough until you see consistent progress, and keep that in your head. The goal isn't a certain amount of months or days, but consistency. You can try and go the next few months with masturbation or sex and see if you get any progress with that. But if you don't then I think it's best you do what I recommend.

I've been rebooting for the last 8 years of my life and long stretches of abstinence are the only things that have helped me see progress. Don't give up until you've tried everything.

 

[Jeks]

First of all, thanks to you both.

So to your question guts:
Yes i had some improvements, which totally make me believe that PIED is a problem. I will also definitely stop masturbating again.
What other problems i could have?
Well, as you said, i had the diagnosis of venous leak and a surgery which did not help. However, even though the surgery did not help the doc told me, that venous leak still can be a problem for some guys even if there are no big veins left. Also they can grow back. Thats all why i will again go to a urologist, just to make sure. Also the last months i had big problems with my bladder, which seem to me like a big coincidence, so its definitely worth to check again. I mean, if a urologist can ensure me, that there is really no additional physiological problem i will have no doubts.
Even if i have PIED and reboot does help it is not impossible, that there is an additional underlying problem.
Also i had no good erections even when i was using porn in the past, so even though its not unheaerd of, the more time passes without erections, the more difficult it becomes to keep hopeful.
I dont know, if the picture was supposed to be funny, and even though i appreciate your feedback, its really unnecessary.

Thanks for the stories. But for example this one dude had sex after 6 months, which i feel like i would not even be able to, even before i started masturbating again.

However i understand where you coming from and that worrying does not help. But sometimes its just hard to stay positive.
i think due to the fact, that i did not have a full erection without viagra since i was 15 makes it somewhat understandable.

If anyone has some more thoughts on my situation, i appreciate it. Thanks again.

 

[mousemat1]

Hi Jeks

I didn't have a lot of time to reply earlier so I've come back to ask a couple of questions.

Can I ask what the problem was with your bladder? If it's too personal you can let me know in a personal message.

You're in the 20-29 group I think. Have you ever been able to get strong erections or as it always been a problem? I don't know a great deal about venous leak but it appears that ED medication like Viagra doesn't help with the condition (I've just had a quick search on the web). Is it correct? You mentioned you've been taking Viagra since you were 15, so probably about 10 years. If you have PIED then I suspect that Viagra would help you get and maintain an erection. I'm not suggesting Viagra as the solution to your problem. The ideal solution would be to recover naturally.

On a scale of 1-10 how would you rate your improvement when you've eliminated porn and masturbation?

You mentioned that you didn't have good erections in the past, even when using porn. Has this always been the case or did it develop over time? If you were able to get good erections in the past it might indicate that it's PIED. How about spontaneous boring erections? Do you get these?

I really feel for you. Thirteen months of rebooting with no/little results must be really demoralising. You mentioned that you've started masturbating again. How often do you masturbate?

I wish you luck!

 

[Jeks]

hey mousemat,

thanks for writing once again.

The last few months i have a much increased urge to pee. At the worst days i had to pee 20 times plus a day. I had a lot of check ups because of that and nothing was found. That said, the docs werent too much aware of my erctyle dysfuction. I didnt mention it because i was sure, that it is caused by PIED. Although it became better the last weeks, since my bladder still isnt okay after months, i just want to make sure that the docs know that the sexual problems exist, so they can check every alternative explanation.

The last time i can remember havin strong erections  was at the age of 14 or something like that. After that its just difficult to tell for me. Honestly i never worried about me not having a full erection while watching porn, because i thought it would become normal, when i would try to have sex with real women. Maybe also important: i never had sex.
It depends on the severity, but yeah, when having Venous leak it can be difficult to mantain erection even with medication. That honestly is one of the aspects, that make venous leak more unlikely, because the few times i was using sildenafil my erections were pretty good i guess. When using medicatication my problem was always delayed ejaculation. Also i had to always fantasize about porn to keep myself aroused, so it is without question for me, that porn was a problem. My only question is really, if its the only problem.

I think i would give it a 3, maybe a 4. Yes, i got back morning wood, but when i masturbated, it was more often than not like zero process erection-wise. What definitely changed is, that i fantasize much less about porn or anything sometimes.

So, before i had this streak of 13 months, i already had a streak of 6 months. After my ex left me i had a big relpase. So when seeing how some guys are counting their time to recovery you could maybe even say i am 18 months in.But the relapse went over a few months, so i imagine, that all progress i made was lost, so for me its 13 months. Anyway, when the big relapse happened, i noticed better erections with porn. Before that i couldnt even get it up with porn.
After about six months of rebooting i noticed spontanios erections, when i lay in bed or while napping.

Masturbating became again a somewhat compulsive act. I do it about once per week, but it is definitely increasing. I have to stop it now. I know that masturbating definitely is not the answer to my problems. But alle the worries, especially in connection with my bladder problems made me really needy for results, so that i f?ll in the trap of testing.

There are really no questions for me, that porn has to play a role in all of this. There are just to many signs that point at PIED. I just really have to make sure, that there is no other problem additionally. 

Thanks for taking your time mousemat. Just "talking" for a little bit to someone takes a little bit of the pressure away and helps to get the worries out the system for a short amount of time.

 

[Relentless Observer]

"Honestly i never worried about me not having a full erection while watching porn, because i thought it would become normal, when i would try to have sex with real women. Maybe also important: i never had sex."
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Jeks, thank you for stating this.  when I started experiencing PIED I had the same mindset.  It really hit me later on that being with women was extraordinarily LESS stimulating than the porn experience that I had become accustomed.
Also, it has been 2 years No P for me without feeling significant progress, so I feel for you.  I have been masturbating infrequently throughout this reboot and that is something I will now fully cutout and I hope this makes a big difference.
*I also thought i had venous leakage as all the symptoms attributed to the condition (according to wikipedia and also medical websites) seemed to match me.  However, the urologist and venous doppler showed that my vasculature is fine.  So, it seems that PIED is a huge reason for my current state, though like you, I don't doubt there is some additional factor with my erectile issues (maybe depression, anxiety)... I think PIED is by far the biggest contributor for my condition.

Good luck, Jeks.  Keep us updated.