Do you think most guys masturbate?

Gambitchco

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Most guys will masturbate with porn/artificial artificial sexual stimulation much more than without it. So if most guys today masturbate, and if most guys today masturbate to porn/artificial sexual stimulation, then how is there not much more of a problem?
 

mousemat1

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How many guys do you know have PIED but they've never told you they had PIED? The number is zero.

It depends how many men suffering with PIED actually admit to other people that they have PIED. Non of my friends know I'm a porn addict, or that I suffer from PIED. I think the problem is much bigger than it appears because the last time I was on porn sites they were full of adverts for Cialis. That in itself should tell you that there is a very big problem.

I have PIED. I know it's porn induced because when I've stopped watching porn in the past I recovered and was able to have good sex. When I started using porn again, PIED returned. In my opinion, it's obvious that in my situation porn created my PIED.

Some men might not develop PIED. But this website, and Your Brain On Porn, have been started to help men quit porn if they want to, and recover from PIED. It doesn't really interest me if the problem affects 50% of the male population, or 90%. I want to cure myself.
 

Gabe Deem

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A majority of my real life friends had a porn addiction, porn-induced sexual dysfunction, or disturbing (to them) morphing porn tastes (escalation.)

Most of them had no clue until I told them about my porn-induced sexual dysfunction and the science behind it. This is a much bigger problem than we think.
 

Conan

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Oh beleave me this is a much bigger and more wide spread problem than you think, many people all around the world are suffering from this without even knowing what it is. The problem is that watching porn is so widely accepted and encouraged in today's society that people are being poisoned by it since early age, completely oblivious to what they are doing. PIED was a novel thing 10 years ago, today more and more people know about it, and 15 years into the future I beleave it will be widely accepted as an actual condition, once we realize that we have a whole army of impotent young guys who started with high speed porn since they were born, I can' t imagine the PIED symptoms they are gonna have. I also think that within the next 15 years or so, before every porn movie there will be a warning along the lines of "watching too much porn can cause erectile disfunction and loss of libido".
 

doneatlast

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I see no reason to think it isn't wide spread.  In fact, I'd say the lack of awareness itself is proof that it is widespread.

If a person has a PMO habit (and effectively has PIED) before he has any sort of sexual encounter, and in many cases before even hitting puberty, what is his frame of reference of how his johnny is supposed to work?  The fact that people aren't scratching their heads about this more indicates to me that it is more common, not less.  If it only happened to, say, 2-5% of the population, then they'd hear enough from friends or sexual partners to cue them in to knowing that something is up.  But if everyone else is seeing the same "problem" it may not seem like a problem at all.  There isn't much of a way of checking across generations, either, unless some guy were to ask his dad "papa, what were your erections like when you met mom?".  Women these days are as confused as men.  They're likely to think that losing an erection after a minute or two and having to do all sorts of things to keep stimulation up is normal.

So, what is the real percentage?  I have no idea, but my guess is that among people who are sexually active enough where comparison is going to happen, heavy porn use is probably 80%-90% or higher.  The reason I narrow it down to people who are "sexually active enough" is because they'd be the only ones who had encounters with PIED and a "control group", sexual experiences untouched by porn and PIED.

On one hand, a couple that waits for marriage to have sex and thus each has only ever had one sexual partner and probably doesn't talk to friends out how their sex life goes will have no frame of reference.  On the other hand, how many people who are actively involved in hookups and have had multiple sexual partners are also saying no to porn?  (Exempt people who have had porn addictions and then quit, they're the ones sounding the bell anyway)  I'm sure they're out there, but I've never met anyone under 40 who is an advocate of hookups and casual sex but is against porn.  They'd be the unicorns that would be able to spot the real difference.  I know that this is a false binary of sexual practices, but I hope you'll see my point: the people most likely to have enough data in front of them to determine "normal" are getting skewed results from porn use, and the fact that no disparities are showing up in these discussions shows to me that the consequences of porn usage are present in the vast majority of cases.

Whenever a society's health metrics move in unison in any direction, changes become far less noticeable.  Whenever I watch an old movie, I'm often taken aback by how skinny everyone looks.  Then, some character will be called "fatso" and they don't look nearly large enough for anyone to take notice today; take a look at guys like Edward G. Robinson or Fats Waller.  But, we can't know what sex was like for prior generations that easily... unless someone wants to ask their dad.
 

Fappy

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Definately. Those that say they dont are lying.
But its slowly becoming exposed all the problems related to porn usage, which is good. On the other hand though, porn is becoming more and more "realistic", what with VR and whatnot.
We can only do as much as possible to spread the word,
 

doneatlast

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Fappy said:
We can only do as much as possible to spread the word,

That's where I love Gabe's distillation.  We had drug education in school.  It backfired for some people and they saw more appeal in drugs because of it, but for many of us it was "this is bad for you body, you could become a junkie, there's not a whole lot of upside except some highs" and we didn't do drugs.  Imagine if every 12 year old as part of sex education had to watch the Gary Wilson Ted talk... fewer would be peeking at porn, it would seem less appealing, and those who did go ahead with porn anyway would be able to recognize the warning signs way earlier.  I was pushing 30 before I saw any of that!
 

Arantxa

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If you think that isnt helping you and your mental, then start quitting and divert it to something else, like sports or diff hobby
 

Fappy

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Imagine if every 12 year old as part of sex education had to watch the Gary Wilson Ted talk... fewer would be peeking at porn, it would seem less appealing, and those who did go ahead with porn anyway would be able to recognize the warning signs way earlier.  I was pushing 30 before I saw any of that!
Oh that would be so cool! Imagine if one day that actually happened. PMO is just as dangerous as any drug
 

Gambitchco

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Gabe Deem said:
A majority of my real life friends had a porn addiction, porn-induced sexual dysfunction, or disturbing (to them) morphing porn tastes (escalation.)

Most of them had no clue until I told them about my porn-induced sexual dysfunction and the science behind it. This is a much bigger problem than we think.

I guess you got a point, share something about your porn induced sexual dysfuntion story please.
 
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