My theory of the FLATLINE cycles

Cp6uH

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So I've been reading a tons of posts about flatline,guys say that rebooting is a rollercoaster ride and that flatlines come and go,one dude reported he had been through 23 flatlines.If you ask me it is pretty strange for brain to be sexual one day and then the other day asexual or asexual one month and then sexual one week and so on.I think that basically once you feel like you lost your superpowers and the period of flatline strikes it won't go away and then come back,I'd say it stays there until you are healed.What I mean is that there is no such thing as 23 flatlines,it is basically only one long flatline,sure some days you feel 0 libido some days a little bit more,but flatline is there as long as you don't have normal libido that won't ever leave.When erection with real life partner isn't 100% without any pills or stimulation then it is flatline and it's over when you feel like fucking again.I myself thought "I've been through 5 or 6 flatlines" but actually no,I've just had some days where my libido wasn't 0 which made me think I need a few more days to recover.In reality those were only just some days and after them my libido dropped back to 0 leading me to believe that I'm flatlining again.So my theory is simply that flatline cycles don't exist it's just one pretty fucking long flatline and only when you are able to be sexual again you can consider yourself cured of flatline (of course with time you will see more and more improvements in your sexual life), don't you think it's bullshit when you read "I'm out of flatline my libido isn't 0 but still can't fuck".Write your opinions on this guys and thanks for reading
 

Sangiha

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I agree with you. Its been 70 + days for me and I?ve had better days but its been one big flatline afterall. I wonder when I will get out of this.
 

Cp6uH

Member
Read this: https://amp.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/37cprv/heres_a_list_of_long_flatlines_to_give_you_hope/
 
Interesting Topic here!
For me (currently 26, porn addict for 11 years, now one year PMO free) it feels like I am in a flatline for almost 9 months or so. Sometimes there are periods with more libido and erections from time to time but mostly it feels like one big flatline, or at least like I am waiting for my mojo to come back (which it hasnt really so far).
In general I have a lot of energy, do quite a lot of sports and keep myself occupied.
Curious to read more about this.

 

Cp6uH

Member
Hey FrankWhite12 man,could you tell me if you have gf or have you done any sort of rewiring through those 9 months and also did you relapse/O or is it 9 months hard mode ?
 
Hi, i just made an account to reply to you bro. I had pied since last year, somewhere at the beginning of 2020, but i only caught it when it was too bad and i wasn't able to stay hard for more than 4 seconds if stopped touching myself. Then I realized something wrong and realized i really had no horniness and no libido, i was just masturbating out of habit, boredom, loneliness.

I started rebooting in September the first of 2020, i lasted 70 days then i relapsed 4 times to porn in 1 day. I was desperate, my pied got much worse and my gentials were dead, more shrinked than ever and feeling coldness, and strange feelings, things weren't normal. 70 days passed without any sign of life, reading all these 60 days and 90 days successful reboot stories made me feel like a lost case.

The strange thing, i had 3 days around days 40 and 45 where i had extreme libido, my ed was recovered! Then it was suddenly lost and back even deeper into sexual dysfunction.

I started rebooting again, and here i am now into days 160~ something, the same incident of high libido repeated itself several times, some times for a day, some times for an hour! Sometimes for half a day, some times for few days, not until recently i got a good libido for 5 days. So there is improvements.

You could say, i have been in a flatline for 9 months since started my reboot and for nearly 1 year and a half since i had my pied, mind you, i was flatlining even before starting my reboot.
It's definitely a rollercoaster.
 
I have some questions for you bro, i wonder if you have these symptoms too which are worrying me and i never found someone with these symptoms so far. Or maybe people aren't really expressive in details about their symptoms.

My first question which is my biggest concern!! Usually my flatline and sexual function are better in the morning, noon and first half of the day until late afternoon or early evening at best, at night by the end of the day, it feels like i am asexual, and lose my ability to feel aroused and having erections to touch, all sensitivity is lost again. This happens to me even during days where i feel recovered, i flatline at night and during the day i feel sexual. Very few rare days i feel sexual at night.

Each time i feel libido, i would have a wet dream which would end my happy moments and send me straight back into a flatline.

I have lots of wet dreams each time i feel recovering, this week alone i had 3 wet dreams, some times i would even have 2 wet dreams in 1 night. After wet dreams i feel sexual sometimes during the day, but afterwards, cold numb shrinked unresponsive penis is there again.

These out of flatlining feeling moments don't feel the same, some days, i feel 30%, others 50%, 70% ect... Each time i feel sexual again, it's different and libido, horniness are different, also my erections during these days.

I can only have good erections when i am going through low flatline moments as you described it.

When i am in a deeper flatline I can't have any erections whatsoever, my penis feels cold to touch, no sexual feelings when i touch it, it feels numb like a piece of meat hanging there.

After each time the flatline is less severe and i have sexual feelings for few days, it ends with a much much deeper flatline where i would feel all my progress is lost and i am back to day 1.

Also,didn't you use any antidepressants or hairloss pills in the past?

How long did you pmo in the past? And how did you start losing your sexual function? Was it sudden or progressive?
 
Cp6uH said:
Hey FrankWhite12 man,could you tell me if you have gf or have you done any sort of rewiring through those 9 months and also did you relapse/O or is it 9 months hard mode ?

Hey man,
I dont have a gf at the Moment.
Yes, I MO'd a Couple of Times During my reboot, I would say every 2 weeks or so after 3months of hardmode in the beginning of my Recovery. I also had Sex after those three months, but it was a Bit shallow. Since then (Last year June) I did Not have Sex, Just some blowjobs with some Girls. That was maybe 2-3 months ago until a few weeks ago. Still felt and feel Like I have almost Zero Libido though. Also, when I was with those Girls I could never get it Up for intercourse, Just oral.
How are you keeping Up? How's the rewire process going?
 

Cp6uH

Member
Expmoaddict said:
I have some questions for you bro, i wonder if you have these symptoms too which are worrying me and i never found someone with these symptoms so far. Or maybe people aren't really expressive in details about their symptoms.

My first question which is my biggest concern!! Usually my flatline and sexual function are better in the morning, noon and first half of the day until late afternoon or early evening at best, at night by the end of the day, it feels like i am asexual, and lose my ability to feel aroused and having erections to touch, all sensitivity is lost again. This happens to me even during days where i feel recovered, i flatline at night and during the day i feel sexual. Very few rare days i feel sexual at night.

Each time i feel libido, i would have a wet dream which would end my happy moments and send me straight back into a flatline.

I have lots of wet dreams each time i feel recovering, this week alone i had 3 wet dreams, some times i would even have 2 wet dreams in 1 night. After wet dreams i feel sexual sometimes during the day, but afterwards, cold numb shrinked unresponsive penis is there again.

These out of flatlining feeling moments don't feel the same, some days, i feel 30%, others 50%, 70% ect... Each time i feel sexual again, it's different and libido, horniness are different, also my erections during these days.

I can only have good erections when i am going through low flatline moments as you described it.

When i am in a deeper flatline I can't have any erections whatsoever, my penis feels cold to touch, no sexual feelings when i touch it, it feels numb like a piece of meat hanging there.

After each time the flatline is less severe and i have sexual feelings for few days, it ends with a much much deeper flatline where i would feel all my progress is lost and i am back to day 1.

Also,didn't you use any antidepressants or hairloss pills in the past?

How long did you pmo in the past? And how did you start losing your sexual function? Was it sudden or progressive?
Hey bro,I can say that I kinda noticed that a flatline is a little bit better in the day but it is still pretty bad for me...I started pmoing at around age 13 on average once a day.(sometimes I skip it sometimes do it 2 or times a day).Escalated from vanilla of course,not too much but I must say I did.I think that when you escalate from vanilla that's when you develop dysfunction.I'm still a virgin due to my pied.
 

Cp6uH

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FrankWhite12 said:
Cp6uH said:
Hey FrankWhite12 man,could you tell me if you have gf or have you done any sort of rewiring through those 9 months and also did you relapse/O or is it 9 months hard mode ?

Hey man,
I dont have a gf at the Moment.
Yes, I MO'd a Couple of Times During my reboot, I would say every 2 weeks or so after 3months of hardmode in the beginning of my Recovery. I also had Sex after those three months, but it was a Bit shallow. Since then (Last year June) I did Not have Sex, Just some blowjobs with some Girls. That was maybe 2-3 months ago until a few weeks ago. Still felt and feel Like I have almost Zero Libido though. Also, when I was with those Girls I could never get it Up for intercourse, Just oral.
How are you keeping Up? How's the rewire process going?
Well I'm not keeping it Up  hahhahahaha :D and that's why I'm on this site fighting the flatline with you bros.I hang out with my gf a lot yesterday spent the whole day with her,so I'd say that concerning rewiring I can't do better and I must wait and let my brain heal.
 
Hey guys
Even after months of being on sites and youtube videos about pied I can say that I am still not clear about the concept of a flatline because I'm 4+ months normal mode and 70 days hard mode and I think that I didn't have a flatline. Just days of ups and downs in terms of erection quality- but the downs were not like the typical flatlines that guys describe. Does it make sense or did I actually have flatlines or as you say one big flatline that's continuing?
 
JnanaYogiKarmaYogi said:
Hey guys
Even after months of being on sites and youtube videos about pied I can say that I am still not clear about the concept of a flatline because I'm 4+ months normal mode and 70 days hard mode and I think that I didn't have a flatline. Just days of ups and downs in terms of erection quality- but the downs were not like the typical flatlines that guys describe. Does it make sense or did I actually have flatlines or as you say one big flatline that's continuing?

Hey man, I guess that makes sense - I would maybe consider it a big flatline with inherent ups and downs as well.
Are you talking about symptoms like depression and anxiety and general loss of motivation?
In my experience, it is definitely an up and down thing, I am not depressed and neither anxious but in terms of libido there is no real consistency. Every now and then it comes back, I really want to have sex in those moments and am looking forward to it with excitement, on other days it is almost like I am asexual, but I do have quite a lot of energy most of the time.
MAy I ask how long you were using PMO? And what made you quit?
 
Hey man, I guess that makes sense - I would maybe consider it a big flatline with inherent ups and downs as well.
Are you talking about symptoms like depression and anxiety and general loss of motivation?
In my experience, it is definitely an up and down thing, I am not depressed and neither anxious but in terms of libido there is no real consistency. Every now and then it comes back, I really want to have sex in those moments and am looking forward to it with excitement, on other days it is almost like I am asexual, but I do have quite a lot of energy most of the time.
MAy I ask how long you were using PMO? And what made you quit?
Yes - symptoms like depression anxiety or even loss of sexual appetite. Though Erections have been undependable for me libido is fairly steady so I get a bit confused. I was using PMO since the age of 11 till 22. Discovering PIED made me quit it
 
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