Ogling and regression

Crackers1

Member
So I need some advice. I really feel like I have to go cold turkey altogether with TV and people I come in contact with. I was in church today with my family and guess what's in front of me? A recently graduated Masters from college, cute nurse with a great body...aaaannnndd of course I am looking at her butt the whole time.So what do I do??? start chatting with her parents after church. Ive seen her before when she was doing her Masters and would chat with her mom and would periphilerly see her staring at me. So guess what? Like an ahole Im chatting with her parent ( I know exactly what I am doing) and to say it felt so unfortable watching out of the side of my eye her gawking at me, while her parents and I are conversing.The parents kept looking at her too, knowing whats going on.I played the dumb act, as I was really towing the line for mental material.Now, all my psychosematic symptoms are coming on full throttle because I keep sex role playing in my mind( which has played a form of porn for me).This sucks! Instead of following the script and getting intimate and close with my wife, Im ogling some 26 year old I have no care for whatsoever!!! Any advice? I know what the answer is.I just want to hear it from some of you.
 
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Blondie

Respected Member
Hey @Crackers1, this is all understandable.

A couple of things.

1. I would first acknowledge that it's perfectly okay to feel this type of desire for young women. Now that might sound counterproductive considering what you just wrote, but hear me out. I'm not condoning staring at her butt, nor fantasizing about her, nor that it's okay to act this out with porn or anything else, all I'm saying is that's okay to admit the fact that us men from 20 to 80 years old all love young fertile women. This is not a bad thing, nor should any of us think it's bad to have such thoughts, nor is it sinful, it's just our biology. You can't turn on the TV or media without hearing such shaming comments as "She could be his daughter!" or "Doesn't he want a real women?" and all the other nonsense you'll hear if you listen to the media on a daily basis. They'll use the daughter comparison because that invokes 'incest' and we all know that's bad, even though last time I checked, Leo DiCaprio has never dated his daughter lol. This is all shaming language and does us men no good because it's literally shaming our very natures, something we can't change, which is NOT conducive to our recoveries. Shame has a way to make us act out, even when we know we shouldn't. Thus, since it's not culturally acceptable for us men to like young women, this shame can often make those natural urges even more strong, and since we think it's "bad" and "naughty" to think these thoughts, well, they miraculously become even stronger and more unnatural. Does that make sense? I admit porn has probably pushed this desire to look at younger women in us men to unhealthy levels, however, we must acknowledge that that desire itself is natural, and we should never feel shame about it.
2. Yes, going cold turkey could be good for you for a while, especially TV and social media. None of that stuff will help you, especially in the first few months. When walking about, (I'm on campus on a daily basis) I try to live by the 2 second rule when it comes to seeing beautiful women in front of me. Do I do it perfectly? No, but it is something I do shoot for. What is more, no matter what, a strong rule of mine is I just don't stare at women, period. If she's not your woman, we have no right to look at her for any long period of time. Obviously just seeing her and appreciating her beauty is one thing, but to stare is just rude, and it makes women feel uncomfortable too. Also, if you can't have her in your bed, what's really the point of the exercise, besides just fueling your lust and fantasies that will never come true, thus leaving you feeling sexually frustrated in the end. Appreciating is one thing, lusting is another. I think we all know what the differences is, though it's hard to put into words.

Hopefully some of that might help you.

Best to you.
 
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Crackers1

Member
Hey @Crackers1, this is all understandable.

A couple of things.

1. I would first acknowledge that it's perfectly okay to feel this type of desire for young women. Now that might sound counterproductive considering what you just wrote, but hear me out. I'm not condoning staring at her butt, nor fantasizing about her, nor that it's okay to act this out with porn or anything else, all I'm saying is that's okay to admit the fact that us men from 20 to 80 years old all love young fertile women. This is not a bad thing, nor should any of us think it's bad to have such thoughts, nor is it sinful, it's just our biology. You can't turn on the TV or media without hearing such shaming comments as "She could be his daughter!" or "Doesn't he want a real women?" and all the other nonsense you'll hear if you listen to the media on a daily basis. They'll use the daughter comparison because that invokes 'incest' and we all know that's bad, even though last time I checked, Leo DiCaprio has never dated his daughter lol. This is all shaming language and does us men no good because it's literally shaming our very natures, something we can't change, which is NOT conducive to our recoveries. Shame has a way to make us act out, even when we know we shouldn't. Thus, since it's not culturally acceptable for us men to like young women, this shame can often make those natural urges even more strong, and since we think it's "bad" and "naughty" to think these thoughts, well, they miraculously become even stronger and more unnatural. Does that make sense? I admit porn has probably pushed this desire to look at younger women in us men to unhealthy levels, however, we must acknowledge that that desire itself is natural, and we should never feel shame about it.
2. Yes, going cold turkey could be good for you for a while, especially TV and social media. None of that stuff will help you, especially in the first few months. When walking about, (I'm on campus on a daily basis) I try to live by the 2 second rule when it comes to seeing beautiful women in front of me. Do I do it perfectly? No, but it is something I do shoot for. What is more, no matter what, a strong rule of mine is I just don't stare at women, period. If she's not your woman, we have no right to look at her for any long period of time. Obviously just seeing her and appreciating her beauty is one thing, but to stare is just rude, and it makes women feel uncomfortable too. Also, if you can't have her in your bed, what's really the point of the exercise, besides just fueling your lust and fantasies that will never come true, thus leaving you feeling sexually frustrated in the end. Appreciating is one thing, lusting is another. I think we all know what the differences is, though it's hard to put into words.

Hopefully some of that might help you.

Best to you.
Thanks Blondie.Unfortunately I use mental imagery more than porn ( Because regular porn became less desirable), which is a somewhat of a tricky suit for me. I think I am probably at more of a disadvantge, because I have to go out in public and contantly see people.Having this girls butt right in my face and me not going in the back of the church, shows I am not anywhere near getting healed. I have to do the " the quick and get it out of mind" if I encounter it. I know it will be tough, but the more I stare, the more the build up. This porn addiction is a back in forth battle of good vs evil.Good is saying " get away...avoid it at all costs". The bad in us say " lets ogle and role play so you regress and stay miserable"
 
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