Recovery With Wife

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    Paragraphs containing possible triggers will be indicated by three asterixes (***).

    I am 27 years old, and I suffer from PIED and PIPE.I started M when I was 3 or 4 years old. I know that's exceptionally weird, but it's true. It wasn't because of my upbringing, nothing happened to me as a child, but I remember how good it felt grinding myself against the floor. I got caught up on P while in middle school, but it was mostly just centerfolds.

    *** I have always had a pretty active sex life. As a teen I lost my virginity at 13, and had regular sex with girls all throughout my late teenage years. I did M during these days, but I didn't really look at P that much. Worst stuff I had was a VHS from the '80s, and it was pretty soft.

    I joined the Marines at 18, and was unleashed on the world after my Marine Corps "transformation" at age 19.

    ***This of course made it easier for me to pick up women. What I noticed was because of this, I didn't have the need for porn ever again. I was enjoying sex with a real, flesh and blood partner. This was until I got deployed.

    I got married to my wife at 19, and shortly after, they sent me to Iraq. I was gone for a year, so I kind of went crazy with the porn. Whenever I got to a FOB (forward observation, basically a comfortable military base in a combat zone), I would borrow someone's laptop, and cruise the slow, lagging internet for relief. I mean, it started by me just thinking of what I would do to my wife when I got home, then I started to see the female Marines as being pretty (and if any vets are reading this, then you'll know what I'm talking about), so I had to unload some pent up, "energy". I would even M in the port-a-shitters remembering the images from P! That's sick!

    I couldn't get enough P, and when I got home, I continued my P usage. I also started drinking a LOT. I became a bad alcoholic again. I've always had an addictive personality, and just didn't know it. The first time I quit drinking, it was because I blacked out on a beach in Oceanside Ca., and woke up in a brothel in Mexico. I am an animal.... my old self disgusts me.

    So, I became addicted to P, and didn't even know! I would lose my erection whenever I had sex with my wife, which I blamed on the alcohol. This happened all the time to me. It even got to the point that I pretended that I drank, even when I didn't, just so I could blame the alcohol.

    Then I quit drinking altogether, but I would still lose my erections. This whole time, I've been PMOing on an average of two to three times a day, every single day. I started smoking medical marijuana for my injuries accrued overseas, and I noticed I would get very aroused when high. You know what I did when I was high? I didn't focus my horniness on my wife, instead I gave it to the tube sites. It was this perpetuated cycle that got me to the point where I regretted going to bed with my wife because I was too nervous, or whatever, to have sex with her. It wasn't her, it was me.

    At some point in our marriage (7 years now), she became rightfully unhappy with me. She left me, saying we've grown apart, but as a psychology major, I read all the clear signs she was giving me. There was someone else. I called her on it, and she admitted to talking to this guy, sexting with him (no pics, i retrieved the messages), and at one point, they met on her break at work, and he kissed her. This was after she left me, but she was still living in my house until she could find a place. We have three kids together, and I didn't want her living on the street, but I kicked her out, and told her that I did not deserve that, and I'm worth more than that. This drove her crazy. She begged me to take her back, admitted her mistakes as being a bad wife, and she even admitted to not being sexual enough with me, and said that she can see clear now what it is that she wants, and that its me. (we'll see)

    ***I took her back after a few days, and she pulled me into the bathroom, and began giving me oral right there. It felt good, but not good enough to get me hard, especially with what was on my mind. WIthout getting into too much detail for the sake of all of us here, I'll just say that it took a lot, and eventually my own hand to get me there. Then we tried to have sex the next day, and we did. It was kind of kinky, which was weird because usually I considered sex with her to be dry since I was so used to P. But then the thought of that fucking guy kissing her crept into my head! This killed my libido, I didn't ejaculate, and I lost my erection, and I even cried like a little bitch. Yes, I cried. The once big bad Marine was bawling like a little wiener. But it's OK to cry sometimes. So I tried not to beat myself up so much. She understood, and supported me, which was pretty cool, but I chalked it up to performance anxiety. I guess I was half right.

    Constantly PMO, multiple times a day, and then I expected to "perform" with my wife, and I couldn't so that made me feel inferior, and that at some point, she's going to leave me for someone else.  This was al about a month ago when that wetn down, so let me fill you in on what's been happening lately.

    I started to research my problem, thinking t was the ganja. I found an article that claimed THC in marijuana affects receptor cells in the soft tissue of the penis. Your erection is consisted of this soft tissue. "Holy shit!" I thought. The thing that was saving my psyche, and relieving my pain, and even cured my cancer (had mouth cancer from chewing tobacco about two years ago), was causing me to have ED!?!?!? This can't be good. So I got a second opinion.

    I decided that it must be performance anxiety, so I need a confidence boost. I shaved my face, changed m look, dressed sharper, started working out (I recommend you do all of this as well as nofap and no porn) and I was feeling OK about myself. I decided that I would ask my doc at the Veterans' Hospital for some Viagra, and she is supposed to get me all set up this week, we'll see. I thought that the pills would boost my confidence levels.

    But something told me to keep researching. Extraordinary claims calls for extraordinary evidence, so I knew it couldn't be the ganja, and I'm only 27, no heart problems, no diabetes, healthy as an ox, so it can't be my dick... what else is there? BOOM. YBOP pops up, and I'm floored with the info. I get so stoked that the answer might be as simple as this, "I'm addicted to porn, and masturbating way too much". The signs were there, i shared a lot of what other men were experiencing, so maybe I too, suffered from PIED.

    I decided to quit looking at the junk, and that I would see about the MO. At first, I MO'ed twice, but I have not looked at any porn. I also started stretching in the mornings, like a bullshit made up yoga I threw together, coupled with some meditation. I also do some calisthenics in the mornings. I stumbled across another article on YBOP, that involved talking about being Mr. Nice Guy, and I even searched articles about being a Don Juan. The Don Juan stuff wasn't until she left me, and I decided to sack up, and start meeting women again. I have of course abandoned this idea as my wife and I are truly happy, more now than ever. Well, except for the ED and PE.

    So just to recap. I did these things:
    • Learned some Don Juan traits
    Quit being a Mr. Nice Guy
    • Quit Porn
    Limited MO

What have I learned?
NO WOMAN LIKES A MR. NICE GUY, but a guy who is confident, and stands up for himself and his values is irresistible.

My morning woods have come back, and they stand at full mast

I get full blown erections when I'm getting hot and heavy with my wife (not always, and often times it takes constant stimulation)

I stand up for myself and others who are being wronged. In fact, just today, I saw this notorious meth addict from the neighborhood peeking into someone's back yard. Normally, I would avoid the confrontation, but I confronted him. I asked him why he was looking in that guy's yard, and he said, "I know him", he told me that he does the yard work, and then I told him, "Don't you go looking in MY back yard." and he said, "I won't, I swear, I won't." and he had this intimidated look on his face. I felt like a Beast! (I wasn't trying to bully this guy, it's just that he's been known to steal shit from people)

I have become irresistible to my wife, and probably to other women. I only say that because when I go out with my wife, she points out the women who "check me out". I dn't know if it's true, but it certainly helps boost the confidence, so I'll take her word for it.

I get what I want when I want it. Or at least I try to make an effort to.

And this was all just within a one month span total, but only one week of no PMO. I know I still have a long way to go, but this makes me excited for the journey! It has only taken a week of no P to get to where I am now. I know everyone is different, so take this all with a grain of salt.

***Now my only problem is PE. As soon as I enter her, it just feels so good, and I can barely last 5 seconds. But I know that if I keep my faith with this, I'll beat that too.
 
WARNING, CONTAINS TRIGGERS
It's day 8 since I have PMO'd and 6 since I've MO'd, 3 since I've O'd with my wife.
I have the urge pretty bad right now. Not to look at porn, well, I guess technically it would be. She sent me a picture of herself, nothing crazy, just in underwear. She's too tired for sex tonight, and suggested I go into the bathroom with that pic of her. I told her no, that I wanted her to do it, and that I'd much prefer her body.

She kind of knows what I'm going through with all of this, I mean, she knows I'm avoiding porn to try and fix my ED and PE. So far, so good. Just trying to hang in there.

Do you think it's just as bad?

 
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I read your entire story, but am only going to answer to your latest question (I'm in a bit of a hurry, sorry): Tell your wife to stop exchanging messages containing anything arousing. It's still on a screen and it's still made to be used by you. That's exactly what you'd like to avoid until the problem is sorted out - or, even better, forever. She seems very supportive, especially in the light of what she has been through due to you (just being frank, it's how your post reads to me). Therefore, she deserves the honesty and will appreciate it if she really knows what her support is supposed to look like. Good luck on your journey!
 
Yes i think you are correct. For the record, the brothel thing happened when i was single. Ive been faithful to her during our marriage, but then again, i guess thats a lie. Its a lie bc i was faithful to porn as well.
 

jkkk

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Penisphoenix,

Man, I like your story. I don't mean the part where you write about your addiction, but rather the part where you write about yourself, your ability and your conviction.

I can also relate to your story: I also had ED, I still have PE (if you're looking for info on that point, let me know, there is something interesting stuff I can direct you to), I did experience infidelity and I am married.

So I really grasp the difficult emotions that you have been going through there.

But I also have this strange feeling that you can be a success at the reboot.

Hang in there.

There is one thread on this forum of which I am a great fan. It sets out a workable recovery scheme. You will find the link below. There is plenty of reading for you there. I suggest printing it out and marking the interesting stuff.

http://legacy.rebootnation.org/index.php?topic=1256.0

And of course don't hesitate to ask anything.

Post and read a lot.

Keep up the good job.
 
Hey thanks! I appreciate your input, and yes of course I am interested in the PE info you have. Thanks again! We can all  beat this monster
 
Alright its day 9, and ive been reflecting on my past. I remember when i was still in the Marines, and i was PMO all the time, i got a Non Judicial Punishment (demoted to Lance Corporal from Corporal), my staff NCOs treated me like shit, i hated everyone and was too scared to stand up for myself. Back in '07, another suggested I quit jerkin it to build my testosterone levels back up. This isnt scientific, but constant PMO has shown drastic descreases in D2 receptors (respobsible for that certain... "mojo").

This was likely my problem all along. But now for some pretty good news.

WARNING, CONTAINS POSSIBLE TRIGGERS.
Last night, my wife asked me to come upstairs and kiss her. So i did, and she decided we should mutually masturbate. I do ne, and she does her, while we lie there together. You can understand my reluctance at first, but then i decided to test myself. Here's what happened:
I got hard, just by touching her, and myself. I used a very gentle grip, and my brain didnt wander off to nasty thoughts or P related fetishes. My erection lasted, and was 100% (but this could just be bc i was M.)
My wife actually made a comment, saying how its upsetting that i vcan get myself so hard, and she cant make me hard. I set her straight real quick (thats another thing, im more assertive with her now, which she seems very receptive to.) Anyways, this killed my erection, but i got it back almost instantly. It had been 3 days since i last O'd, so that probably helped.
I was able to control my O by using reverse kegels, and we ended up O simultaneously. My only physical stimulation was a very gentle grip. My only mental and visual stimulation? Looking into her eyes while she looked into mine.

It was pretty glorious knowing that all it took was being with her to get me there. I know that im on the right track, but i was thinking it might be even better if i dont O for at least 15 days. Wondering how i should explain to her, and wondering if its worth it.
 

Poker

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Wow....  I read your entire story. 

To your last point....  I would simply be honest with her about what you need to do to recover.  She will get it as much as she can.  In the long run, you both need you to recover, and she needs to understand you're not pushing her away, and she's not the reason for any of your issues.  I'm not going to promise you she will completely understand it, but she needs to know its not about her.

hope this helps my friend.

Cheers,

p.
 
Thank you for the input, Challenge! I somewhat agree, it does bother me that she wanted me to M instead of share myself with her. At the same tine, she was exhausted, and hobestly i was too. But i told her, "i want you to do it. Not me." I told her that i wanted to feel her body, and kiss her etc etc. Then i remaibed silent and didnt text her bac. She later asked me to cone up and do all tgose things i suggested. I apologize for the grammar. It appears that my fingers are much too large for the keypaf on my phone.
 
Wrapping up day 9, and the depression is starting to kick in a little. Im beginning to be insecure again. I feel like i lost all my mojo.

I went out tonight with a friend of mine, which was nice because i was able to talk about man shit with another man. Felt good to get the testosterone fueled stories going. My wife waited up, sent me a few msgs asking if i was having fun, etc. Nothing bad. But idk what the hell it is, i mean i guess deep down i do know, but i just cant shake this insecute/depressed/anxious feeling.

Im gonna go smoke some ganja, and watch a comedy.
 
Its day ten. I noticed a few women checking me out. Harmless, bc i wasnt go to do anything about it of course, but it helped my confidence, then i slipped back ibto depression. I have a gut feeling my wife is having an affair.
 
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Penisphoenix said:
Its day ten. I noticed a few women checking me out. Harmless, bc i wasnt go to do anything about it of course, but it helped my confidence, then i slipped back ibto depression. I have a gut feeling my wife is having an affair.

Be aware that depression can lead you to believe everything you'd dismiss immediately in different moods. Also, quitting porn is about you - it's no remedy for turning your life completely around but a good way to prove to yourself that you're strong at ill.
 
So its day 11, and im feeling better, even though i received sone horri le news. I waited for my wife to fall asleep, and then i checked her phone. She IS having an affair. When she gets home from work today, im telling her im done, and i want a divorce, and that she needs to leave.

I feel like this is the only option, bc this is the second time ive caughter her in a one mobth span. Ever since she went back to work, its like she found new confidence. I blane the porn mostly bc if i had been able to satisfy, maybe she wouldnt have becone wayward, but infidelity is a non negotiable value i have. So regardless of porn or not, there are no excuses.

Now that ive beeb abstaining, my confidence, and overal mental well being have fluctuated greatly. However, besides my cheating soon to be ex wife, im feeling pretty good about myself. My swagger is still in full force, and im not intimidatedby other men, or women for that matter. I speak louder, and never have to repeat myself to anyone anymore. I know that im on the right path, and i never want to go back to that old me. Im just afraid that i may relapse to numb the pain of my impending divorce. I plan to stay occupied so my mind doesnt try to cope in the wrong way. Wish me luck, gents, as i you.
 

jkkk

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Bro,

It seems like a lot of things are not as great as you would wish.

Or that I would wish for you.

Look... you will never know what the real reason of your wife cheating is. I remember in your post that you wrote about losing interest in your wife and, well, that certainly didn't help. I personally went through this.

You should definitely speak to your wife, but what you guys really need to do is to establish whether you can still od it together. I did experience cheating and it's a horrible thing. And I can tell you, with all certainty, that it's horrible for BOTH of you.

It seems that you really need that reboot. I think you're at the point of necessity - and I'll tell you: most guys who are here, are at this point. It's either you make it or things will tumble down, like a house of cards.

Take courage from all this painful experience. Don't relapse. Let the pain galvanise your resolve - see this IS what the addiction did to you. It's no joke. In the 12 steps program one of the steps is setting up a list of losses that an addict experienced due to the addiction. Yes, you marriage might eventually be on that list. But it's too close to call, in my view. There is still some fight to be done and with you there, bro.

Just what I think now: it would not help you two to be sexually intimate with yourselves now. This just isn't a good point. What you need is a real reboot that will allow you to look at your wife with different eyes. Abstain from P, M and O. Give yourself some days under your belt. Discover her once again. Start all over once again. People do that, believe me.

I'm praying for you, buddy.

J.
 

LS90

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Read the story. Man that's harsh news. Hope everything went """""""""""""fine"""""""""""", as fine as everything can be. Stopping PMO leads you to a thrillride that's worth living.

If I can say something, PMO won't be the way to deal with the pain/emotions you're or will be going through. It's a dopamine release and you can achieve it in better ways. I feel that you can be confident with people but this time you have to be confident with yourself. It's going to be a tough time but if there is one that can do it, from what you write, I believe it's you.

Keep us posted!
 
LS90 and jkkk, thank you both so much for your inspiration and encouragement. It definitely helps. As far as the mrs and i, i got to the bottom of things, and we are currently working it all out. Our marriage is fixable for sure, and we are on that path. My newfound confidence has greatly increased this, wgich is due to no more PMO. My sex life tooka total 180?, and i am able to acquire, and maintain regular erections. Morning woods are roughly every other day, on an average of 90% firmness. Overall genital function appears to have returned to normal, wgich includes no more PE or DE.

*** on one occasion, my wife and i made love and while i ejaculated in under one minute, i was able to go again with only a 5 minute resting period in between.

I feel like a new man. It doesnt take all kinds of crazy visual stimulation to get me going anymore. In fact, just kissing, and caressing my wife does the job now. In a few more days, i am going to write up a list of what seems to be working for me, and what doesnt. Maybe it will help someone else out too. Even if it only helps one other man, then that means i have done my duty to this community. I am thankful every minute fort his site and its users. Stay strong gentlemen, for when you want to complain of your worn shoes, remember the man with no feet.
 

LS90

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Penisphoenix said:
I am thankful every minute fort his site and its users. Stay strong gentlemen, for when you want to complain of your worn shoes, remember the man with no feet.

That's great to hear man! Keep it going. ;)
 

Poker

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Wow.... i am so happy you guys sre working it out.  And thsst things hsvr turned sround in the bedroom for you.  That is encouraging. 

Cheers,

p.
 
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