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Diesel driver

Active Member
Hello rebooters,
I've been trying to do a full reboot for quite some time now.
My sticking point is the weekends. When I have a lot of free time I would easily be tempted to MO/ PMO. For the last month I went through a cycle of fapping-saturdays and -sundays, entering flatline and recovering from it until the weekend.

I regained some erectile function from a one month streak of no MO/ PMO. I came out of flatline very suddenly and couldn't help but fap and I got addicted again. All progress is basically lost but now I know what to do.

I learned a lot about rebooting. These are my discoveries and it might apply to you as well.

Things I learned:
  • Flatline recovery happens unexpectedly. Libido and erectile function increases slowly but one day it will suddenly peak to its max. Brace yourselves
  • You don't need to "test" and shouldn't. You know when you're there.
  • A relapse after just one week of no MO/ PMO can be even more destructive than fapping every day. The orgasm will be very strong and it destroys your progress completely. Two to three weeks should be ok.
  • A good workout increases your blood flow for a few days and that effect is a big advantage when you plan on having sex
  • Supplements like arginine can help but they are for more experienced rebooters. If you are addicted, blood flow and libido increasing supplements will be trouble
  • If you can't stop thinking about sex you might think MO/ PMO will help your mind rest for a while. But fapping makes it worse.
  • The level of arousal you need will sink, even big fetishes will disappear

The last time I MO'd was 4 days ago. I want to make a one month streak again!
Let's see if I can do it
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
Things are looking good.
Had a strong morning erection yesterday and an okay one today.
Have mild urges today but I'm not too far from flatline.
 

gtl923

Active Member
Hello rebooters,
I've been trying to do a full reboot for quite some time now.
My sticking point is the weekends. When I have a lot of free time I would easily be tempted to MO/ PMO. For the last month I went through a cycle of fapping-saturdays and -sundays, entering flatline and recovering from it until the weekend.

I regained some erectile function from a one month streak of no MO/ PMO. I came out of flatline very suddenly and couldn't help but fap and I got addicted again. All progress is basically lost but now I know what to do.

I learned a lot about rebooting. These are my discoveries and it might apply to you as well.

Things I learned:

    Flatline recovery happens unexpectedly. Libido and erectile function increases slowly but one day it will suddenly peak to its max. Brace yourselves
    You don't need to "test" and shouldn't. You know when you're there.
    A relapse after just one week of no MO/ PMO can be even more destructive than fapping every day. The orgasm will be very strong and it destroys your progress completely. Two to three weeks should be ok.
    A good workout increases your blood flow for a few days and that effect is a big advantage when you plan on having sex
    Supplements like arginine can help but they are for more experienced rebooters. If you are addicted, blood flow and libido increasing supplements will be trouble
    If you can't stop thinking about sex you might think MO/ PMO will help your mind rest for a while. But fapping makes it worse.
    The level of arousal you need will sink, even big fetishes will disappear


The last time I MO'd was 4 days ago. I want to make a one month streak again!
Let's see if I can do it

It sounds like even though you have relapsed, you are making progress. In fact I'd have to argue against your points that relapsing destroys all progress. Yes it may set you back some but you learn from it right? Every experience is a learning experience and when you fall you just gotta get up stronger and keep fighting. I think you would benefit from finding some sort of hobby or activity to do on weekends. Maybe start going for a walk or jog to clear your mind. Just find something you enjoy doing and that will have positive effects on your well-being. And think about the long-term when you feel yourself slipping, where you could be if you stay strong. You'll get there brother!
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
@ gtl923
Thanks for replying. Indeed you keep progressing on the mental side after relapsing. When I made this point I focussed on the physical side.
For some reason I could fap everyday once and my progress on ED would freeze. But when I had 5 to 8 days of nofap and I fap again I get into one of these dramatic flatlines. I would then miss my morning wood and my (flaccid) penis would feel cold and shrink to a minimum size.
I wish there were more studies on this very topic. I feel like an orgasm after a week of abstinence is more "expensive" and depletes all of my hormonal supply.

I believe I'm into no PMO for 5 months and when I began I couldn't imagine waking up with an erection. But now it happens regularly and I even had my first ever wet dream  (Y)

Had some stubborn urges this morning but got up quickly. It's a sunny day and I will have an easy time today
 

gtl923

Active Member
My issue has largely been mental so that's why I kinda assumed. I do think though, that mental progress should be your focus and will lead to physical progress in the long run. The addiction occurs in the brain and the physical side effects are just that: side effects. You could potentially be spending too much energy gauging your progress in terms of the physical. I think if you focused your attention and energy on something completely unrelated to PMO and its effects you will find it easier to make progress. Keep up the good work!
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
gtl923
I appreciate the advice. I wish I could focus on lifting but the time ain't there. At least my homework takes me away from dangerous boredom.

Today was a quiet day. Had no urges.
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
I had a dream about looking at porn pictures on my computer. It didn't cause a emission.
I feel good. Even had some random movement downstairs.
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
Didn't do much today.
The D showed a bit of reaction during showering.
I won't touch my dick if it's not for urinating and washing. It's better this way.
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
Yesterday evening was a close call. I was already lying in bed and had some fantasies. They gave me a full erection that was very sensitive and stayed a long time. At some point I jumped out of bed and paced around until my thoughts left left me. I layed down and fell asleep.

Hope I can resist tonight. Cheers!
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
I was stressed out yesterday and unfortunately gave in and fapped.
I was clean yesterday and experienced no significant set back from the day before.
Today I hope I can resist. I will hit the gym today.
 

DayByDay

Active Member
Diesel driver said:
Didn't do much today.
The D showed a bit of reaction during showering.
I won't touch my dick if it's not for urinating and washing. It's better this way.

This is a tactic I've been employing since day 1. Really works as long as you remember.

Sorry to hear about your relapse. What triggered it ?
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
@ DayByDay

Had a stressful day. I realized I ran into a dead end, career wise. Have to make a difficult decision soon.
This plus a high libido after 11 days hardmode and no time to calm down made me do it.
 
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mtaha2015

Guest
stress does cause porn and masturbation.
stress is one of the root cause of PMO.

this is your stress, you need to relax yourself, you have to plan how to unwind this stress.
make a plan, implement.

come on ! work on this man. work for your life.

take sleep
take nap
lay down on bed intentionally and close your eyes for 5 mins.
listen to classical rock

that stupid porn isn't worth to spend time for.
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
@ mtaha2015  Thanks. You are right. There are other simple ways to release stress but that day I was blind to them. I fapped without porn.

I am seeing good progress mentally and physically. Dick is back to live but needs more time.
 

Will Stalwart

Active Member
Keep battling on! This is a tricky addiction and your doing extremely well despite the odd stumble. Each time you PMO you are not failing. It is a part of your personal healing process. Learn from your slip ups and always move forwards. I like to keep track of your journal and just wanted to voice my support. And remember, if it was easy it wouldn't be worthwhile.
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
Thanks. It keeps getting better all the time. Also I'm glad I don't throw out so much semen anymore. It's like cutting and losing blood. Do it all the time and there has to be a problem ahead.
I actually got semi hard a few times today, accidentally if you can say that. I fought against it because I wasn't alone when it happend
This happens when I drift off in fantasy. I can't do it on purpose yet.
Cheers
 
I though I was the only one dreaming about searching porn at my computer, wow. The desire of the brain is strong, but we need to make those connections as weak as possible.
 

Diesel driver

Active Member
@ Stratavious  It is very common and can cause a wet dream when the time is right.

Haven't updated my journal in a while. The reason is that I wanted to forget about porn and rebooting completely for some time. Of course I'm still in but I don't want to think about it all the time. Frankly I'm a little bit fed up with the forum, too because of troll activity, unnecessary questions and users begging for contribution but never giving any.

Most of my porn memories are gone and the ones I still have are blurry. Instead I remember my real life expiriences far better. Fetishes I developed during my PMO carreer are getting less exciting.
 

DayByDay

Active Member
Diesel driver said:
Haven't updated my journal in a while. The reason is that I wanted to forget about porn and rebooting completely for some time. Of course I'm still in but I don't want to think about it all the time. Frankly I'm a little bit fed up with the forum, too because of troll activity, unnecessary questions and users begging for contribution but never giving any.

Most of my porn memories are gone and the ones I still have are blurry. Instead I remember my real life expiriences far better. Fetishes I developed during my PMO carreer are getting less exciting.

Hey Diesel!

Happy to see you back again! Totally get what you mean about just wanting to get away from PMO for a while and try to forget it. It can be difficult to abstain when everyday you remind yourself of what it is your giving up by coming on RN. One thing I would say is to try and not let the small percentage (trolls) of this community ruin a great tool for your reboot. Journaling/talking with other users can really help not only by keeping you motivated/trucking but also by helping you realise some mistakes you may be making.

I'm also very happy to hear about your results! I was lucky enough to have never developed any dark fetishes while PMOing so I can only imagine how relieved you are to see them going away.
 
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