It's all about long streaks without relapses?
- Thread starter grayfoxxx
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hey man welcome to the form 
i went without 7 months without porn and 60 days without masturbation and i relapsed 4 times during the space of 24 hours.... this hasn't set me back to day 0 it's a little set back..but i know what i must to carry on and fight hard... so dont worry pal were into this together
i went without 7 months without porn and 60 days without masturbation and i relapsed 4 times during the space of 24 hours.... this hasn't set me back to day 0 it's a little set back..but i know what i must to carry on and fight hard... so dont worry pal were into this together 
Gary Wilson
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grayfoxxx said:
If you mean PIED, the answer is yes. The vast majority of guys who recover from porn-induced ED do not put together a 90 day streak of no porn, no orgasm. Very few put together a a 90 day streak of no ejaculation. Some continue to orgasm through their reboot. Most have multiple "relapses" into porn.
That said, streaks appear to be beneficial, but longer is not necessarily better. Abstinence from porn is the key, but continuing to go without ejaculation may not be beneficial. Rewiring is often the key variable for many men, as PIED involves sexual conditioning to porn.
grayfoxxx
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Thanks to all guys, your answers heartened me quite a bit.
Very special thanks to Gary, if I'm here now is because of your TEDx video.
My problem is that at a certain point I have the urge to test my erections, verify if reboot works or not. I realize that is a big mistake only after the damage is done.
Plus the fact that I really can't hate P or P subs. Now I understand how stupid was watching that stuff everyday for years, I've drastically reduced the use of them in this 2015 and I'm proud of it, but I still can't see P as a pure evil. I don't blame P, I blame my use of it.
Btw, I work on it to make as less mistakes as I can.
Thanks again!
Very special thanks to Gary, if I'm here now is because of your TEDx video.
My problem is that at a certain point I have the urge to test my erections, verify if reboot works or not. I realize that is a big mistake only after the damage is done.
Plus the fact that I really can't hate P or P subs. Now I understand how stupid was watching that stuff everyday for years, I've drastically reduced the use of them in this 2015 and I'm proud of it, but I still can't see P as a pure evil. I don't blame P, I blame my use of it.
Btw, I work on it to make as less mistakes as I can.
Thanks again!
Gary Wilson
Active Member
grayfoxxx said:
I don't see testing as a big problem, although most rebooters do. In fact one of the primary suggestions for long rebooters is to massage the genitals. The suggestion to not test erections arose from several years ago when guys only needed 8-10 weeks to recover from PIED. The problems with testing: 1) some guys end up using porn, or 2) tie their emotions to erection quality.
I see no need to demonize porn or to praise porn. Just don't use it or porn substitutes. No need to have any feelings one way or the other.
Gary, for people who have experienced extreme escalation in my my case outside of own sexuality I'm guessing rewiring with actual girls would take precedence over merely abstainting. I've abstained for a while now have yet to rewire bc I have no libido for girls it I have yet to notice any desescation from merely abstaining but I'm guessing it just patience and time while making an effort to active rewire?
Gary Wilson
Active Member
datkid93 said:
I don't want to say that you must rewire in order to recover. However, I strongly suggest trying to date. Many guys report that rewiring was the key.
Pr3c1se
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it's really all about changing your mindset. You've made it to this site because you felt you had a problem. If you feel you have a problem, then you have a problem. This is all in our heads. If porn is affecting your daily life, then it's a problem. If you waste hours a day in your room looking at your computer at fake girls, that's a problem.
So yes, people masturbate, people watch porn. All this happens, so if you masturbate and watch porn very occasionally, you will eventually get better. But occasionally is the key word here, I'm talking once a month MAX. Most people who made it to this forum cannot do this. It's best to keep away from it all while you recover.
It's like talking to a recovering alcoholic, yes he probably can recover if he limits his alcohol consumption to once a month, BUT that's not likely to actually occur.
So yes, people masturbate, people watch porn. All this happens, so if you masturbate and watch porn very occasionally, you will eventually get better. But occasionally is the key word here, I'm talking once a month MAX. Most people who made it to this forum cannot do this. It's best to keep away from it all while you recover.
It's like talking to a recovering alcoholic, yes he probably can recover if he limits his alcohol consumption to once a month, BUT that's not likely to actually occur.